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icon1.gif  Whats your favorite toyota engine Fri, 11 July 2003 09:16 Go to next message
whats your all time favorite toyota engine, give reasons too {dont everbody say 2JZ either}

Mines my current 18RGU, reason; haven't driven any other, so its the best so far
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Fri, 11 July 2003 10:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I would have to say i love the 4A series of engines... they are just so rev happy. But lets face it.. toyota dont really make anything other than quality. Smile
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Fri, 11 July 2003 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
2jz Laughing
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Fri, 11 July 2003 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The 3S-GTE http://www.kirupa.com/forums/smileys_files/fu.gif
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Fri, 11 July 2003 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah i must also say the later model 3S-GTE's......i have alot of respect for that series of engine

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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Fri, 11 July 2003 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
definately the 1X















PUHWHWHAHAHHAWHA!!!

sorry, just couldnt hold back Confused

nah, i'd have to say 1JZ or 1G-GTE
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Fri, 11 July 2003 11:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Definately the 4AC!!

It was so good they even passed on the idea of putting the bluetop into the Aus. Spec AE86!! Rolling Eyes


But seriously..... I love the 4E-FTE!! Its a tough little engine!

And give me that V12 outta the Toyota F1 cars!!
Just like the Nestle Indian guy says.....

YAHUMMMM.... YAHUMMM!!!!


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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Fri, 11 July 2003 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I love the 4AC, mine even went to 8000rpm Shocked but it is now no longer alive!
Im about to find out if a 3TGTE is better Smile
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Fri, 11 July 2003 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jz or gz

personally I love the 1jz. ok so it's not quite the beast the 2jz is, but it revs much more happily, and it sounds racier. the 2jz tends to sound rumbly (yes, I know it all depends on the exhaust/muffler, but holding everyhting else constant)
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Fri, 11 July 2003 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message

i am in http://www.kirupa.com/forums/smileys_files/love.gif with the 4agze/te...

even the good old 4age is a damn good toyota engine...
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Fri, 11 July 2003 22:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
this one: Shocked

http://members.optusnet.com.au/gianttomato/JZX23/engine%20intake%20side.jpg

there is something just pure class about a highly strung n/a engine... Cool
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 00:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what the hell is that
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 00:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
a 3.0L 20Valve Laughing
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 00:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
2JZGE
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 01:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
let's face it. if you're going n/a, you want a v12.
nothing else screams quite so nicely.

I was going to say at high rpm, but it acheives max power at 5600rpm!! Shocked
even the 1uz revs up nicer than that... what's the go?

my 1jz acheives max power at about 7000
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 01:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
feral4mr2 wrote on Sat, 12 July 2003 08:49


i am in http://www.kirupa.com/forums/smileys_files/love.gif with the 4agze/te...


Sorry to steal this thread.. but john.. have you got that ol GTE rebuilt yet?
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1953 Formula One BRM 1.5 litre V-16 Supercharged

http://www.billzilla.org/BRM-loudpass.mp3
make sure you turn it up LOUD

http://8w.forix.com/engine.jpg

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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 03:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shocked *squirt*
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jeebus



mine fav is still the 18R
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 03:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
its a bit like that huh
Shocked Shocked Shocked

try 1 lap from in the cockpit 1.8Mb
http://www.billzilla.org/BRM-incar.mp3
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 05:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Those sound amazing!!!

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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 08:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dylusion wrote on Sat, 12 July 2003 11:29

feral4mr2 wrote on Sat, 12 July 2003 08:49


i am in http://www.kirupa.com/forums/smileys_files/love.gif with the 4agze/te...


Sorry to steal this thread.. but john.. have you got that ol GTE rebuilt yet?

http://www.kirupa.com/forums/smileys_files/bawling.gifno... i have still been trying to save $$ for the parts i need, or find a cheap ze engine..
i have just got a few more hours at work while one bloke is away on holidays for 2 weeks, so that will hopefully make my pockets a little heavier..
the whole car looks like i just got it from Saddam Insanes private collection after the bombing, at the moment.....
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
rob_RA40 wrote on Sat, 12 July 2003 08:54

this one: Shocked

http://members.optusnet.com.au/gianttomato/JZX23/engine%20intake%20side.jpg

there is something just pure class about a highly strung n/a engine... Cool


wtf! that is wack!
any info/website on the engine?
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 09:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
3UZFE Smile All the lubberly goodness of the 1UZFE rolled with an extra bit of capacity Wink
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I have to say my 4A... I love it...
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 12:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the sound of a 20V sends chills up my spine, i love it
however i think i love the 1JZ's more
they sound so well defined and scream more than a 2J
its all about sound for me
1JZ-GTE is the one
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Late-model Beams 3S-GE VVTi-L...one of the most powerful NA 2-litre engines producing about 150kw!
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 12 July 2003 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'd have to say the 7MGTE, but i've only had a few different toyota engines (18R,18RC,18RU and 3S-F) mind you the 18R was a strong reliable engine. But since the 7MGTE with a re-torqued head there's nothing that compares, well not that i've expierienced yet.
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sun, 13 July 2003 06:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
As far as jaw dropping Toyo's I'd have to go with gianttomatoes 2jz-ge in the mark1....

Its already pictured twice in this thread so scroll up and have another drool Very Happy

GT- Please give all off us in the general toymods community some more info on this beast Evil or Very Mad

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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sun, 13 July 2003 06:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm one of the privileged few who's been for a spin in GT's monster. Here's a quick rundown:

- atmo 2JZ-GE engine
- it's loud
- six throttles
- it's loud
- Motec injection
- it's loud
- big frickin side pipe
- did I mention it's loud?

Very Happy
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sun, 13 July 2003 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
But does it have a full motec exhaust ? Laughing
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sun, 13 July 2003 08:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i would love to read up on the mad NA 2jz...

did gianttomato do up a page for it?

can i presume the car is just for racing and not for everyday usage?

would be interesting on how much it drinks...
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freakysoarer wrote on Sun, 13 July 2003 18:19

i would love to read up on the mad NA 2jz...did gianttomato do up a page for it?


the people have spoken dave, its out of my hands now Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

personally i like this engine the best....

http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/loats/technical/7mge/images/headporting/main.jpg

http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/loats/technical/7mge/images/throttlebody/frontmid.jpg

Shocked Laughing Shocked Laughing

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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sun, 13 July 2003 09:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Have you figured out how your going to attach piping to that throttle body yet Ed?
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sun, 13 July 2003 09:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
daves beast if you wont to call it that has triple motec throttles 48mm and special inlet and extractors the rest is std and is running a motec M800 ,im still working on his other cylinder head that he had ported ,and this head has shim under buckets and dual valve springs and 11mm cams to finish it thats next years motor
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sun, 13 July 2003 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool1 wrote on Sun, 13 July 2003 19:03

Have you figured out how your going to attach piping to that throttle body yet Ed?


three options:

- fabricate an oval from three sections of 3" alloy tube (kinda crab welded)
- flare a piece of 3" dia cromo tube into an oval at one end
- see if a truck place has a 4.5" to 3" rubber reducer connector; heat it and form the 4.5" end into the right shape and slide it over

hopefully one of those options wil work Very Happy

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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sun, 13 July 2003 09:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
on engines i would have to say 3sges 2nd gen and the 4th and 5th versions mainly my race 1 with 250hp with the new extractors
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sun, 13 July 2003 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well get to it then Ed.
I might be needing a throttle body soon that doesnt have all the added crap and that cobra item looks the goods Very Happy
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sun, 13 July 2003 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well at one stage I owned 5 18R-C and one 18R-G. I'm really taking a liking to this 18R'G even though it's in pieces and yet to be driven but it looks so big and strong compaired to my brothers 4A that's sitting next to it. I can't believe how crappy and small that 4A is.
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Mon, 14 July 2003 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
7MGTE cause thats what i have Very Happy

but really the 2JZGTE is a pretty sweet donk.

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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Mon, 14 July 2003 02:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Beams 3SGE !!
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Mon, 14 July 2003 02:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i'll have to say 3S-GE cause i own one Very Happy
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Mon, 14 July 2003 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4T GTE as run by Dan Gurney in GT Prototype Celica. Looks like a 3T but 2.1 litre. In race form it made 675 HP. Just what a certain Yellow car needs.
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Mon, 14 July 2003 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
but.... its still a 4A Razz <<<< Comment not valid. im stupid.>>>>>


My preference lies with this little puppy Smile
http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QgCvBMATS5Cfa6BhZPRJ4XLA1pbrzUzUzxuq3h*6c54DUO!v1vv7fEdihSGaT1zfML8xSd3yZtmK2YdZDqGnq*K3u7GtP4KzS0vyq5KbH9E/new-donk.jpg?dc=4675411547526075110

Please excuse the mess of an engine bay Smile

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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Mon, 14 July 2003 14:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
18R-G with sidedraughts, that's the shiznit. Smile
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You'd have to say that it'd be between the BEAMS II 3S-GE, 2JZ-GTE, and 3UZ-FE.

Personally, I have a lot of respect for the 3S-GE. 75kW/L from an N/A with Toyota reliabilitiy built in.
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Witzl, if that reply is to me then it is not a 4A at all it's a 4T "T" series: 3T on steroids. Evil or Very Mad
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Tue, 15 July 2003 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message

1JZ-GTE!

I own one ... but have never driven one .... yet Very Happy
I'm trying hard not to think of it as the poor man's 2JZGTE.

And I've got a ton of respect for the old 3SGE's - my wife's car (and my daily driver) ripps around with a 3SGE powering the front wheels. And they have a realy nice sound in factory tune.

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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Tue, 15 July 2003 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
my appologies Jason - stupid karl can't read Razz

In which case... COOL!!! Cool
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Wed, 16 July 2003 23:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gosh! Thanks for the kind words.

Pretty much everything has been covered by Norbie and Glenn. It's a stock 2JZGE, with 48mm individual throttle bodies and mandrel bend extractors. It's all controlled with a Motec ECU. It's in a Mk2 Corona coupe. The final tune hasn't been finished (due to a range of teething problems), but it puts down about 130-135 rwkw at the moment. There is still 1000 rpm worth of rev reange to explore, and a whole bunch of extra ignition to add in, so hopefully it might see around 140 rwkw. Irresepective, I'm happy with how it goes - it makes for a significant improvement over the old 4M!!! Very Happy

I have actually just finished writing a little blurb for Ed's website, so look there in a couple of weeks for a bit more detail.

As for my favorite Toyota engines - it's the one that started the romance for me, the 3M.
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Thu, 17 July 2003 03:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well...Hmmmm....Let me see!

I think it would be something like this:

http://www.itplanet.net.au/cressida/im000011.jpg


Very Happy Laughing

Other than that, 3UZ-FE or 1GZ-FE.
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Thu, 17 July 2003 08:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So great minds do think alike Razz
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justcallmefrank wrote on Thu, 17 July 2003 18:32

So great minds do think alike Razz


LOL. More than you think... Looking at your 2JZ, you've done a lot of the stuff I'd LOVE to have the time/money to do to mine - ie. ITBs, Extractors etc. Oh, and the time to get in on a dyno and properly tune it... With all that done, 200RWKW should be a snap! Very Happy

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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Fri, 18 July 2003 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I think you may be a tad confused Razz Although that is a sexy 2JZGE, my uni student budget made me settle on a nice 1GGTEU. Smile

Having said that, my next project MUST include a 1UZFE of the 300kW+ variety Wink
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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 19 July 2003 14:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
...More than just a tad, apparently! Embarassed

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Re: Whats your favorite toyota engine Sat, 19 July 2003 15:19 Go to previous message
The thing is though, even if you were talking about GT's engine...I still agree with you Wink
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