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JonsonRA23
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18rg power potential 145hp to ???? Wed, 03 July 2002 13:33 Go to next message
Im getting a 18rg, im not touching the bottom end, i was wondering how much hp/kw would be gained if i had the head ported, put better cams in and put 45mm webers on?
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Re: 18rg power potential 145hp to ???? Wed, 03 July 2002 16:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If the entire bottom end is in good nick you should get 160 to 170 HP with not problems at standard compression. Up the comp to 9.5 / 9.8 and put a good exhaust on it and you may just squeeze 170 to 180 out of it.

[Updated on: Wed, 03 July 2002 16:45]

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raistlin
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Re: 18rg power potential 145hp to ???? Thu, 04 July 2002 07:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Any of you ppl know how much and 18R-GEU would cost? or alternatively how much just the efi gear including everything but the head and block would be(I already have 3 efi heads for 18rg just none of the other gear)?

not surge tank etc, just the specific engine bits
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SlatemazZ
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icon10.gif  Re: 18rg power potential 145hp to ???? Fri, 05 July 2002 14:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I got my engine and gearbox from a guy in newcastle. It's an 18-RGEU model with twin 45mm Webbers siderafts. The engine was already done up with lightened fly wheel, high compression pistons, 65/20 cams, short-throw shifter, heavy duty clutch, 2 1/4" extractors etc. the lot was for $1500 (good deal) plus $200 freight to nth qld. Rolling

at the moment the engine is in my st141 corona (after 3 months of conversions) modified ra40 cross member to suit the power steering and brackets for aircon and power steering motors.

heres a pic of the engine at the time of arrival Evil or Very Mad


http://www.geocities.com/opeth_rulez/18RGEU.jpg

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sbyder
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I'm running 12.0:1 compression! Sat, 06 July 2002 03:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My 18RGU is running an enormous amount of pressure!
What do u guys reckon my horsepower would be?
I've got:
balanced and reground crankshaft, balanced and lightened flywheel, major porting, shaved head(thats why comp. is so high), competition cams, 2.75inch straight through exhaust with only one muffler-supertrap, custom mandrel-bent extractors, custom airbox with pod-filter on twin solexs, and a holley red fuel pump.

I tried to get it dyno tuned, but the guy wouldn't do it cause it was running on-a problem when running so much compression.

I'm guessing about 150hp or above. The fastest I've got on the strip is 16.83@89mph with traction loss through till third(baldish tyres-no money). With new tyres i'd think i'd get into the high 15s easily.

PS- is there any quick fix to stop my car running on? I've tried remapping the distributor and lowering the revs, etc... and they don't work when the motor is hot. Any suggestions apart from dropping the compression?
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Celica RA45
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Re: I'm running 12.0:1 compression! Sat, 06 July 2002 03:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if you were running 12 to 1 it would ping its tits off and would not have much advance and would need to run AVGAS to drive it around town .if it is running on there should be a solenoid valve that runs from the airbox and 2 the rocker cover and attaches to the balance tube ,it shouild be put back there .if you have not got 1 ,lower the heat range of your spark plugs ,by memory your eng should have w-16 exu plugs try w-20 or 22 that should stop it running on
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sbyder
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Re: 18rg power potential 145hp to ???? Sat, 06 July 2002 04:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It was compression tested at 200psi!
It is running that much i've had two tests and both say the same!
It doesn't ping much at all- only on occassions when its hot and i try planting the pedal in forth at about 2000rpm.
Apart from that its going great. No i dont have that link either. And i have changed my spark plugs to B6ES spark plugs on recommendations from a mechanic and a drag/race mechanic. I'm using the B6ES not the BP6ES. These plugs have pretty much stopped the pinging.
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Celica RA45
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Re: 18rg power potential 145hp to ???? Sat, 06 July 2002 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
just cause you have 200 psi does not mean you have 12 to 1 ,my comp is 240 psi but i have 10.8 to 1 comp and i have 300 duration cams and 440 lift
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sbyder
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Ahhhh.... Sun, 07 July 2002 01:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well that might explain it. I wrote in to hot4s and they said that my 200psi was 12.0:1. It was in issue 81 May 2002. I just assumed they were correct. well clears that up. anyway what hp do u reckon i'll have anyway?

[Updated on: Sun, 07 July 2002 01:13]

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Norbie
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Re: 18rg power potential 145hp to ???? Sun, 07 July 2002 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Here's a tip: don't believe anything you read in Hot4's, unless it pertains to gay bodykits or skanky models draped over bonnets. When it comes to technical knowledge, they're full of shite!
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sbyder
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I have to agree with u there! Sun, 07 July 2002 01:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Back in its old days the mag was great, but now its turned into RICE 4's. I dont really believe most of the shite, but i thought they'd get the conversion right! Ohh well, it wasn't a total loss i did win a free WRX book, cause i have a WRX!!!
*shak'n head and smiling in sarcasm*

But its worth $45, so if anyone wants to purchase it from me when its delivered i'll glady give it to u for $20.

I was actually trying to get the set of gauges valued @ approx. $500! but i was too late. Ohh well.

[Updated on: Sun, 07 July 2002 01:41]

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Celica RA45
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Re: I have to agree with u there! Sun, 07 July 2002 01:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i need to no what cyl head it is ,efi or carby what size cams ,lift and duration what size carbys and what extractors and bore size of pipe ,your comp will be say 10.5 to 1 .when they used to race 18rgs at bathurst they had 10.5 to 1 310 duration and 445 lift cams 48mm webbers and 4 into 2 into 1 exhaust they made 175 hp then went to mechanical injection and dry sump they then made 188 hp and there is still 1 car left in sydney which is owned by Beech Thomas and is the chickadee chicken celica
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Malicia
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Re: 18rg power potential 145hp to ???? Sun, 07 July 2002 04:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sbyder: Where did you get your Cams from and what sizes are they?

Also does anyone know what the lumpiest regring would be?
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Celica RA45
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Re: 18rg power potential 145hp to ???? Sun, 07 July 2002 07:44 Go to previous message
if you wont a good cam try 304 duration and 435 lift
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