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HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 15 July 2003 03:41
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Hi Guys,
Have just decided I want to pick up a TA22 celica as my first car. Can anyone give me a rough guide as to what to pay for one that is clean of rust and does no more than run fairly well?
Cheers.
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Perth
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November 2002
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 15 July 2003 07:24
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I'm paying 3500 for an RA23 thats clean with no rust. Different model but same era. Totally rust free ones are hard to come by tho, so you might have to pay abit of a premium. Worth it tho.
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sydney blue mountains
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May 2002
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 15 July 2003 15:40
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if you wanna do a complete restoration ive got one you can have. 
seriously are these things getting so rare yet, that you should take one in any condition to build up or can you find a decent project one around?
my spares car has a pretty dodgy body but im not sure if i should bin it cos i am sure that i will do some kind of damage to my good one when its running  
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Mornington Peninsula
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September 2002
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 15 July 2003 22:19
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Well I've got 3 RA23's. One I paid $1750 for, was rusting and the engine is tired and everything that could go wrong has. But it's all been fixed and now is a reliable car.
My second one I paid $500 for, stock standard, rust, engine average with crappy auto transmission. Now is the parts car. Third I paid $600 for. Engine had just been recoed (cost previous owner $800) Rust but not too much that couldn't be fixed. Has been in a few minor accidents so there is a lot of panel beating happening. This is my project and is slowly coming along.
Prices vary, it really depends on how much the car is worth to the people who are selling.
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I supported Toymods
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Brisbane, Queensland
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January 2003
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 15 July 2003 22:19
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i bought my 75 ta22 3 weeks ago for $3500, its only got a 2T but it's in perfect nick, excellent interiour condition and has prelude seats. It helps to look around heaps before buying.
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Victoria
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July 2003
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Mon, 11 August 2003 03:46
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Thanks Guys, that should give me some indication...
Really the most important thing to me is a straight body as the engine will get replaced with a lexus 4litre as soon as I can afford it...
As long as it runs (and just runs) until then I don't care...
Are parts/panels for these things generally expensive?
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Perth
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November 2002
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Mon, 11 August 2003 03:51
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1UZ? That should be sexy
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Mon, 11 August 2003 04:05
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That would be the one...
Insurance is gonna be a f***ing killer (If i can get it, being under 25 and all ) but it will be the ultimate sleeper
After the engine will come the wheels, then a flip top front end, then the leather interior
It's all a pipedream at the moment, but it's a nice pipedream...
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adelaide
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April 2003
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Mon, 11 August 2003 11:33
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i didn't think a 1UZ could fit into a ta22 without major and i mean major modifications, like moving firewall back significantly?
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Mon, 11 August 2003 11:46
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You are right! It wont fit without spending some serious dollars getting some serious engine bay mods 
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Perth
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November 2002
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Mon, 11 August 2003 12:33
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How many mods are needed for a 23 with a 1UZ? I am dreaming of a 1UZ as a second conversion for my black RA23. I know its obviously alot more then the almost drop in 1G
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Mon, 11 August 2003 13:11
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Paid $5K for TA23, tiny amount of rust, 2T-GEU, Re-Upholstered Interior, ROH rolling stock etc...Pretty well perfect. I'd say $5K is upper end of not too modified TA2X, bout $2000-3000 for a good one, but if you want a 3T-GTE or something up front start thinking at least $9K.
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adelaide
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April 2003
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Mon, 11 August 2003 13:21
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if you want that sort of HP straight out of an engine maybe go for a 3sgte as it will at least fit into the engine bay.
thenyou can do a detailed workup of the process for the rest of us too
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Perth
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November 2002
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Mon, 11 August 2003 13:21
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You going to Twin Turbo that thing Alch or just remove the stitching in the front seats? 
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adelaide
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August 2003
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Mon, 11 August 2003 16:34
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for a first car man id be looking at a easier mod than that
not trying to crash your bubble but regency would go to town on it!
heres a list of realistic exchanges:
18r 4a 2t 3t 1uz
most have twin cam options and are more than enough power for a ta22. they arent all easy mods but they are do able and in some cases bolt ins.
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Perth
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 12 August 2003 02:18
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What about a 1G conversion? Thats what I'm planning for my first. Its cheaper, apparently easier and gives heaps of power
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 12 August 2003 02:37
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Unfortunately I have a thing for engines with 8 cylinders...
I think the TA22 shape is very classy, the thing only weighs about a tonne, and with some hard work and elbow grease I know I can get 8 cylinders under the bonnet. I may end up going progressive engine upgrades, but the ultimate aim will always be the 1UZ...
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 12 August 2003 02:43
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Nothing beat's the sound of an 8!! 
I know that you can fit a Holden 308 in the TA23's RA23/28's without modifying or moving any structual parts of the engine bay. And it all fits neatly under the bonnet as well.
I haven't seen it in a TA22 yet. Their engine bay's are smaller so the better option for an 8 would definatly be the RA23!
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 12 August 2003 02:53
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Might start looking at a 23 then...
Thanks for that
And you're right - nothing beats the sound of an 8
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November 2002
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 12 August 2003 03:52
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plus imho, the 23 looks better then the 22 there's just something about a car with a bonnet buldge.....
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 12 August 2003 04:01
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I agree about the bonnet bulge, but prefer the angled indicator lenses on the 22.
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Perth
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 12 August 2003 04:32
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wierd, cause I heaps prefer the straight indicator on the 23/28
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Tue, 12 August 2003 04:42
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To each their own I suppose
At the end of the day I don't dislike the 23s, so I'm not going to not buy one because of them... When it all boils down, it's what's underneath and inside this thing that is going to matter
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Sydney
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January 2003
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nsw
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Wed, 13 August 2003 13:59
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the cost depends a lot on condition...mods..etc etc
could range from 500.00 to anywhere.
my ta22 cost me a small fortune...and it only has one of those small rotary engines in the engine bay.
also the engineeer said he would have engineered a 400 chevy in it
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Club President
I supported Toymods
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Sydney
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Fri, 15 August 2003 11:51
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Alchemist,
Dude I see you are the lucky owner of Joe's old TA23. That old girl is one of the best TA23's around and I damn near slapped him for selling it so cheap. I guess its easier for me to see its value when I have been around it since Joe bought it.
Take good care of it. (Especially the GT Bits, I took me a long time to get him those)
And more importantly have fun with it
As for TA22 verses TA23 I prefer the TA22. I would love to get my hands on the 1975 US powerbulge RA22 bonnet tho. Then it has the only bit I prefer on the TA23.
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Sydney
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January 2003
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Re: HOW MUCH TO PAY FOR TA22.
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Sun, 17 August 2003 13:38
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thetoyman75,
Thanks for the compliments means alot coming from the President of Toymods. I plan on joining toymods so I can keep the car in the club, but at the moment having a spare $40 just doesn't seem to happen It is a great car to drive, I love it It has pride of place in my Garage I intend on taking good care of it, its hard to keep it as polished as the day I bought it though!
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