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Hybrid Engines/TA22 Tue, 15 July 2003 04:52 Go to next message
Hi,

Im deciding on an engine to be fitted to my TA22 shell once it has been repainted. Ive been thinking of a hybrid 2/3T engine, and have a stock 2T-C already in the car. What is the EXACT process for a 2/3T Hybrid, and could i use a 3T-GTE injection and exh manifold on it? Would this be more viable, or a 4AGE instead?

And to make the conversion legal, i think id need new brakes, any bolt up upgrades? What diff would you guys recommend?

Im just tossing up a few ideas atm, and any input would be appreciated.
And no, i cannot afford a 3S conversion, much as id like to.


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Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Wed, 16 July 2003 06:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
as for brakes u could use ra60 front struts but they would have to be shortened to fit.they are 10.5" vented discs,as for the diff u could prob. use the existing one but an ra23 would be better
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Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Wed, 16 July 2003 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
RA60 struts have waaaay to much camber. See here: http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61 /ra60strut.html

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Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Thu, 17 July 2003 05:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If i cant use RA60 struts, then the next option would be the hilux/peugot calipers combo, correct?

and dont RA23's use the same diff? T series?

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Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Thu, 17 July 2003 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You could use RA60 struts in conjuction with longer control arms to correct the camber problem. I know someone who did this in his T18 and it wasn't hard to do, however it did increase the front track width significantly which may cause wheel clearance issues.

The other option is to use shortened RA23 struts and upgrade them with RA60 discs (see my web site) or the Hilux/Pug upgrade (see the tech article).
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Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Sat, 19 July 2003 06:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
An RA23 diff is not stronger than a TA22 one.
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Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Sun, 20 July 2003 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Depends which TA22 you have. The earlier TA22's have a D series diff which is smaller than the T series found in later TA22's and RA23's.
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Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Mon, 21 July 2003 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks for the replies, ive got some reading to do.

In a nutshell, could i use a 2T block, with a 3TGTE head? or is it better to use a 3TGTE block with 2TG head, and 3T manifolds? Do all models of the T series engine (head and block) match up?

Im a big fan of forced induction, but ive never had a highly strung NA engine before. Which option (4a vs hybrid) would be more liveable with vs power? reliability isnt a word any of my present car(s) can spell.

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Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Mon, 21 July 2003 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you could always turbo a 4agze, thats always the 4a option
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Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Mon, 21 July 2003 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Late 2T-GEU heads are better than 3T-GTE heads. The ideal setup would be a 3T bottom end (doesn't have to be 3T-GTE) with a 2T-GEU head and manifolds. Big cams and lots of compression or a turbo and you'll be set. Smile
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Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Tue, 22 July 2003 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Or you could go for a late 2TGEU motor and use the 3T crank and rods (slides straight in and makes it 1.8ltr) and over size the bore if you wish to a 2ltr. The later 2TG blocks are identical to the 3T blocks so everything will bolt straight in. Then turbo or super charge it as you wish.
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Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Tue, 22 July 2003 07:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i think there is a 4y crank conversion you can do to take it out to 2.2 litres
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icon6.gif  Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Tue, 22 July 2003 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Juzzo,

All reading and reports on the Y series crank upgrades advise against doing it as it is a slow reving dog of a hybrid thats not only a PITA to build but will most likely thro a rod with any sort of RPM. I was going to do it myself but decided against it after looking into it.

If anyone has actually built one themselves I'd love to know what piston and rod combination was used ???


Hoon,

The blocks and heads are all interchangeable. The Unmarked 88262 head is the only one to cause you any issues. It has the offset combustion chambers and requires special pistons to suit.

As for what to build, depends what you want and what you can get for the right price at the time.
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Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Tue, 22 July 2003 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
When i had my head off, (the unmarked 88262 head) the only visable offset was on the pistons, not in the head itself. I'm sure any normal piston configuration will suit the head just fine.
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icon12.gif  Re: Hybrid Engines/TA22 Wed, 23 July 2003 10:47 Go to previous message
Better check again my friend. The Combustion chamber is ALOT different to any other T series head. Just any old T series piston WILL NOT work. The offset is on those pistons for a damn good reason....... To stop them slaming into the head !
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