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Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Thu, 04 July 2002 12:25 Go to next message
hey all!!! as the topic says i got a celica and i have sum questions to ask Very Happy

1) on the console next to the seat and handbrake.. there is a swith that looks like a switch that is for power windows.. i push it and it does NOTHING wut is it suposed to do??

2) i have installed a super sound sysyem!!! aka i bought the car with the headunit ripped out and i had to buy a stocker toyota headunit Razz anyways i have installed it but one of the speakers volume *read right* is reallllly low.. could this be cause of wiring or wut? i know it would be a million reason Razz

these are new 6.5 kenwoods btw

3) the fuel gauge doesnt work at all!!.. is this a common problem and i can fix it by magically tighting a bolt or sumthin Razz i have NEVER attempedf to fix a prob like this b4 so would should i do??

thanx al and i bet i have a heap more probs soon ahhah hope to hear from u ASAP!!!!
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Thu, 04 July 2002 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If it is anything like my 1980 imported Corona, the button on the centre console is for an electric aerial. You can buy replacement motors and aerials from most car shops, but they always seem to last about a week before getting snapped off by a tree or something.

Don't know about your other problems. Can only suggest pulling things apart and checking wiring and connections.
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Thu, 04 July 2002 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
that could be it cause my one is totall broken off Sad i hope i can get a coat hanger Razz
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icon2.gif  Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Thu, 04 July 2002 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1) Yup, the switch is for the aerial.

2) I'd check the speakers, make sure the two wires are the right way around...

3) It's prolly the fuel sender unit... You'll have to drop the fuel tank and replace it... If that doesn't solve it then the line running from the tank to the dash might be screwed..
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icon10.gif  Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sat, 06 July 2002 02:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanx nark and evryone else! who else better to ask then u about ra60's Razz..

i have sum more questions..

1) u know the lights on the doors?? how do u turn them on?!?

2) on the boot there is like a little light switch there that doesnt turn on or of either... the light bulp is fine.. im guessing a fuse sumwere?? but i checked the fuse box in the car and under the hood and there is no blown fuses

3) b4 i start saving for a 4agze or 1g-gte.. wut can i do to it while waitung??

4) wuts the biggest size rim and widest tyre i can fit on a ra60??

5) ANY help or advise would be AWESOME!!

6) oh and also! are ra60's and ra65's kinda the same thing besides the different head lights?!

THANX HEAPS FOR REPLYING PEOPLE!!!!! i love this car fo sum reason and have plans for it Razz thanx again!!!
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sat, 06 July 2002 03:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
First of all Congrats on joining the real-car family.
sorry if I repeat something that has already been said
* the button will be electric arieal, grab a test light and find the motor of the arieal and get someone else to push the button, see if it's still got power.

*With the speakers, make sure that you have connected the wires in the right way making sure that black sided wire is always to the negative side of the speaker. secondly if that is all sweet, look at where you have installed it al make sure the terminals are not shorting out onto the car body or something stupid like that.

*In the RA60's and so on, the fuel sender does play up a bit, it's a matter of pulling it out of the fuel tank and seeing why it's not playing the game, if you are unsure about this get a mechanic to do it. You don't want to set fire to your new car.

*The lights in the doors. grab a test light again. make sure there is power. I know that I've gone through heaps of bulbs on my celica door lights, I put it down to uncareing ppl who slam the door shut causeing the filiment in the bulb to break. Mean PPL!!!!

*the light in the boot trick, not sure about this one. but do the same for the doors. inspect the needle switch, (ie. the plunger type thing that makes the interior light go on.)

*the best thing you can do for improving the engine is to improve it's breathing. put on a decent exhaust with extractors, and improve the intact side also.

*not sure about rims for the RA60. I say a nice pair of 15"x6.5" will do the job, check your offset also. you don't want to go scrubbing you new rims away.

*both RA60 and RA65's are pretty much the same, it's all much of a muchness. it's a matter of measuring and trial and error.

Hope it was of some help.
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sat, 06 July 2002 03:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
woah thanx for the reply!!! talk about wanting to know evrything i wanted to know!!

the best thing you can do for improving the engine is to improve it's breathing. put on a decent exhaust with extractors, and improve the intact side also.

how much would an exhaust cost would u think with extractors, and wut size should i go???
and when u say intact do u mean like airfilter??? im totally new to cars as u can tell Razz and i was wondering since i have a carby car... can i still get k&n filters or performance type airfilters for carbiies cause all my mates jhave got efi....

*not sure about rims for the RA60. I say a nice pair of 15"x6.5" will do the job, check your offset also. you don't want to go scrubbing you new rims away.

i totally agree wif u on th 15's! but does anyone have a definate size which is the biggest? and widest???

soo does anyone have any recomendation on wut engine i should put in?? my mate has the 100kw seca.. and i want sumthing that will chop him AND chop a gsr lancer.. basically... would a 4agze chop them both?! or would a 1g-gte or 1jz-gte or sumthing overboard like that be my only option? Razz


thanx for the huge ass reply man!!! im sure im gonna have 100 and 1 question later on hahah Very Happy
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sat, 06 July 2002 04:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just helping you out man, I sure other ppl would do the same for me (wink,wink, nudge,nudge).
An exhaust system I would go for about 2.5" system and either lukey, Genie, Pacemaker extractors. If you can get it for around
$800 your laughing.
for the intake side of things, I personally wouldn't waist my money on a K&N airfilter if your going to do an engine swap. See where the stock airfilter cover picks up from. see if you can take the pipe off and replace it with a bigger pipe and mount the other end somewhere close to the front of the engine bay where it can get a good breath of clean air the isn't obstructed by headlights or something.
On to engine's now. a 1G-GTE will chop and dice and mince all of your mates plus also put up your insurance and rego.
where as a 4A-GZE would be a good idea, but take off the super-charger and put on a turbo. The good thing about doing this is that all the internals of the 4A-GZE are fordged Smile and will be able to handle large amount of boost, best ask Yogi about this one.


But if you are going to change the engine fairly soon I wouldn't waist my money on a good set of extractors. Look in the long run at what you want to do to your car. and In the mean time get it running sweetly and reliable and looking shit hot!!!
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icon3.gif  Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sat, 06 July 2002 14:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Does your dome light come on when the door is open? The lights in the door should come on every time the door is open.

The light in the hatch... That's strange, there's a switch and that's the only way that it turns on... Pull it apart and have a look...

As for the mods to the 21R-C. Don't waste your money! You'll just be throwing it away if your ultimate plan is to install another engine!!! The exhaust won't work if you fit a 1G (wrong side).

A 4A is not a good idea in an RA60. It's a 1.6L pulling a pretty decent sized car. Even if you turbo a 4A-GZE, you'll still have a low compression 1.6L off boost......

As for wheels. I have 17x7.5" on my car. I run 215/40R17s on the front and they never scrub. They used to scrub when I had 215/45R17s though.
And the back, well, I've got 235/45R17s and there is SHITLOADS of room still... I've been told that 265s will fit and I believe that!

RA65s have the different front. Have a 2.4L EFI engine. Some extra interior goodies. And have IRS.

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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sun, 07 July 2002 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the RA65 also has better brake lights. What are these extra goodies?
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sun, 07 July 2002 07:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The sa63 also got the different front end and IRS, though only the 2S-C engine. Not sure what diff size though.
Interior goodies??? My ra65 has no options... manual steering, manual windows, manual mirrors (I think only Supras got the elec option tho) no sunroof, no c/locking. Did get a nice glowing ring around the ign switch and footwell light, with a 5second delay after your close the door, though, which other celis (including ra65s) didn't get.
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sun, 07 July 2002 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
don't you have power steering? I thought that was standard.
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sun, 07 July 2002 07:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nope. Manual rack. I've driven both, and quite frankly I preffer the manual, it feels a lot nicer tho it is a bit heavy at carpark speeds.
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sun, 07 July 2002 07:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I've got a RA65 with sunroof and power steering along with all the interior lights not to forget the all important check engine light.
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sun, 07 July 2002 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mentor wrote on Sun, 07 July 2002 5:53 PM

I've got a RA65 with sunroof and power steering along with all the interior lights not to forget the all important check engine light.


What's your point? They ALL come with check engine lights.

Is the avatar your celi?
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icon1.gif  Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sun, 07 July 2002 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aren't those interior lights standard? I thought they were...

And I thought power steering was standard on the RA65s.

Sunroof and A/C were options. Not sure about power mirrors but I think only the Supras got those?
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sun, 07 July 2002 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Some of the imported Celicas had the power mirrors and stuff too.
I've never driven a RA6X with a manual rack. The power steering does take away a little bit, but was much better when I got my 15" wheels and slightly wider tyres.
I must say that the other day I drove a MA61 with sticky 225's on 16" rims and the steering on that was very nicely weighted with nice feel. The tyres and wheels seem to make a BIG difference.
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I have a manual rack and would not give it up for the power steering rack.

I have 215 tyres on 17" rims. Sure it's hard to park, but how often do you park compared to the number of corners you take?
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sun, 07 July 2002 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah, the steering was really nicely weighted with the wider tyres on, you'd be surprised, I was. And I was giving this thing a caning Razz
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sun, 07 July 2002 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stefan wrote on Sun, 07 July 2002 6:47 PM

Mentor wrote on Sun, 07 July 2002 5:53 PM

I've got a RA65 with sunroof and power steering along with all the interior lights not to forget the all important check engine light.


What's your point? They ALL come with check engine lights.

Is the avatar your celi?



Ya the car in the avatar is mine, it is the only one that colour I've seen, if anyone else has seen one let me know, the flares are off at RA65 GT I think and the front spoiler is custom

As for the check engine light I was tackin the piss as it's the only interior difference I can find between the RA65 and the SA63
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sun, 07 July 2002 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
maxdamage75 wrote on Sun, 07 July 2002 5:18 PM

don't you have power steering? I thought that was standard.


From what i could understand on the 1985 Australian Sales brochure, The RA65 had Rack And Pinion Steering as Standard and Power Steering as Optional Extra.

As well as that in the same brochure it states that the Automatic Air Con was Optional Extra (MA61) but states nothing about the Celica having the Air Con Optional. I know that the Sunroof was optional extra as well. The RA65 has MacPher. Struts (Discs) at the front and IRS at the back (Drums).

I really can't help with an RA60. My SA63 has Power Steering, Air Con (not that it works properly) and Sunroof Nod , my MA61 has all the trimming except Sunroof Cry. As for the ZZT231... All the ZR features (inc. 2002 Spec Lower Grill)...

What i realised on the brochure (pg 10) is that it states that @ 120Kph the car is crusing @ 2,200rpm... is this right for the MA61 or is that using the different trans and diff?

Mentor wrote on Mon, 08 July 2002 2:05 AM


As for the check engine light I was tackin the piss as it's the only interior difference I can find between the RA65 and the SA63



How could the SA63 (Black Interior) have a different interior color to the RA65 (Blue Interior).
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Sun, 07 July 2002 16:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ZZT231 wrote on Mon, 08 July 2002 2:23 AM

How could the SA63 (Black Interior) have a different interior color to the RA65 (Blue Interior).


I mean is...
The SA63 (Black Interior) have a different interior color to the RA65 (Blue Interior).
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ZZT231 wrote on Mon, 08 July 2002 2:26 AM

ZZT231 wrote on Mon, 08 July 2002 2:23 AM

How could the SA63 (Black Interior) have a different interior color to the RA65 (Blue Interior).


I mean is...
The SA63 (Black Interior) have a different interior color to the RA65 (Blue Interior).


I have a brown interior Nope
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Mon, 08 July 2002 00:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The colour of the interior trim wasn't specific to models. It was just a specification like body colour. Being around MA61's and RA6X I've seen numerous interiors in ann different colours, all in varying shades of gaudiness! Razz
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Mon, 08 July 2002 00:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I’m still interested to know if anyone has seen a Celica the same colour as mine?
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Mon, 08 July 2002 02:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
[quote title=Mentor wrote on Mon, 08 July 2002 2:05 AM Ya the car in the avatar is mine, it is the only one that colour I've seen, if anyone else has seen one let me know, the flares are off at RA65 GT I think and the front spoiler is custom

As for the check engine light I was tackin the piss as it's the only interior difference I can find between the RA65 and the SA63
[/quote]

Oh yeah - carbs - so no check engine light.
When you say GT, you mean those knock-off GT and GTis that there are a batch of someone made, they're stock coupes or liftbacks with the lower half of the headlights and grill colour coded (looks horrible), fender flares & supra style wing, and different mags and badging.

Your car may have been resprayed in the past - the headlights/grills are normally black. You should have a paint colour code stamped in your engine bay which will tell you what the original colour is to be sure. Even if it is the original colour, you can crossreference the code to find the name of the colour. I think I have seen that colour before though.

Interior colour has nothing to do with model number. ra65s seem to be predominantly blue inside, but that may just be a popularity thing. I think r160s tend to have the gaudiest schemes.

I have a Motors Magazine from '85 with a reveiw of the ra65. review model had rear discs.









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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Mon, 08 July 2002 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BTW I like having no options. As Nark says, the manual rack is much nicer, I have added aftermarket c/locking anyway and all those accessories just add weight - especially the sunroof.

Rumour has it that there were a batch of "lightweight" GTS coupes made in the US for easy conversion for racing etc. GTS (flares and wide rims) are normally loaded up with options, but these had none besides electric mirrors I think.
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Mon, 08 July 2002 02:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nark wrote on Sun, 07 July 2002 8:41 PM

Aren't those interior lights standard? I thought they were...

And I thought power steering was standard on the RA65s.

Sunroof and A/C were options. Not sure about power mirrors but I think only the Supras got those?


I know a guy who says he didn't get the interior delay footwell light or glowing ring as an option on his RA65, that's all.
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Dude!! Any chance of you scanning that article in and sending it to me?!
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I already have it on my site, I posted it on the old forum a while back. Here you go:

http://www.speedtoys.com/~stefan/images/review1.jp g
http://www.speedtoys.com/~stefan/images/review2.jp g
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Tue, 09 July 2002 14:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Now I know most people say there is no point to doing up a 22RE but that is what I'm going to do and I'm looking to find out about what can be done with the ECU ?
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To fix your fuel gauge,first find the fault, go to your fuel tank,unplug the wire going to the fuel sender and short it to ground. If the fuel gauge now goes to "full tank", the sender is open circuit, needs to be replaced. If the gauge still doesn't show,the wiring or the gauge itself is the fault, can check with a meter or test by replacement.

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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Wed, 10 July 2002 01:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mentor: there's no point!
seriously tho, if you're that desperate, the ra65 begs for a new ecu. I've heard of 2 people with close to stock 22r's putting in a new ecu.. instant power gain, and for once half-decent fuel economy.
turbocharging might also be an option (see 22R-TE), tho that's gonna require forged internals
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the question is were would I find someine that has new ECU's for it ????????
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Wed, 10 July 2002 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
do you have a magazine review or something like the above for the SA63?
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Thu, 11 July 2002 09:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
okay okay - i hafta say something about the tyres/wheel thingy. 17 inch rims look waaaay cool, but what do you want the car do do - look good? handle good? Save your life? Hmmm, Id go for a set of 15inch rims (in a style that appeals to you) and go the 205/60 15" tyres. Good ones. Ones that stick. eg yokohama A032R (street legal R spec competition tyres) or yoko A539 (pretty good in wet and dry but a lot more comfy & quieter than the '32R.

These will set you back around $160 each (tyres only). They dont weight your steering down too much, they dont attract the law-enforcement types & they dont attract the dirtbags that enjoy the look on your face when you find your car sitting on cinderblocks and your nice shiny 17" rims missing. Dont forget to get a set of locknuts (or two) to prevent heartache and missing rims.

I like the big rims, but they start to interfere with the geometry of the suspension and introduce all manner of handling issues that make the car handle worse than it does now. Besides, nothing looks dumber to me than a car with a really hot set of rims and el cheapo tyres on them coz the owner spent all their $$$ on the rims, and couldnt afford decent tyres. The rubber bit is the ONLY part that stops you sliding off the road and making a stain on the scenery - i try and remember this whenever i buy tyres.

The skinnier the tyre, the less you will aquaplane if driving on wet roads. My competition rims are 185/60/15 and Im more than happy to drive the same width around during the week. (cheaper tyres though - yoko 539s - last longer)

Good luck with the RA60 - i hope it has less rust than mine ever did lol - Im inclined to agree with the idea that a 4AGE will be too small for this car.

Cheers!

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icon2.gif  Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Thu, 11 July 2002 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Was this directed at me? I'm the only one here with 17" rims so it must be. Smile

My rims weren't what I wanted, largest I wanted was 16". I was actually looking for MA61 14x7"s but had been looking with no luck for a year and a half.

Anyway, I was on the way to buy a brand new set of wheels (you know how hard it is to find 114.3x4 in a RWD offset??) when these wheels were offered to me with tyres for $750. Who could refuse that?

If you look at my car, you'll know that I'm not really into the wank factor, what I wanted, well needed was grip!. BTW, I used to run 195/65R14s and they gave absolutely no grip... Very scary in the wet. Even the 235s in the back right now have trouble providing grip out of corners. I need LSD. Disgusted

As for goemetry, I would not give up the stiff sidewalls of my 17" tyres for the crap I used to have to deal with on the 14s and 15s. Never had 16s on my car so I can't comment, but I'll take the 17s over 14s and 15s any day. They handle way better. They are soooOOOoo progressive at the limit that it makes it almost boring to slide it out.

They are heavier, and they do move the polar moment of inertia away from the center of the wheel, but those are sacrifices that I'm willing to make for the feel that my tyres give me.
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Thu, 11 July 2002 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
blah, i just wrote a huge diatribe about 'food for thought' in tyres and then managed to close the window and delete it all. Sad

Short answer is - No Max, it wasnt a shot @ you - sorry if it appeared that way.
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icon10.gif  Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Thu, 11 July 2002 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No probs dude. It takes quite a bit to insult me. Smile

I was just stating that there actually are some unexpected benifits from running 17" rims. I expected it to handle pretty crap when I bought them, but I was just too fed up with having no grip to care.

The do make turning the wheel a bit harder, but increased castor could fix that (not much of a solution though I suppose. Smile)
They also make the brakes work a lot harder which is annoying when you're repeatedly hammering on them... That could be my rear drums overheating, but I don't think so, I suspect the extra weight further from the centre, plus the increased grip from the 215s up front means the brakes work harder anyway...

Could also be the cheapo $7 brake pads that I'm using..... hehehe

Gotta get me a pair of Metal Kings one of these days....
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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Thu, 11 July 2002 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey, good to see that im not the only lunatic sittin on the www at this hour of the morning!

yep - the $7 brake pads can do it every time. Try a set of compII pads - a decent rally/race place will be able to sort you out with them, and tell you the optimum temperatures for them. Metal kings just give your rotors a good polishing and last forever while they are doin it. Rotor wear is not a good-thing.

I was racking on about my girl and her e36 bmw - handled fine till she did the 17" 55 series tyres and the stiffer suspension. Body roll is non-existant, but it bounces and hunts when you are mid corner and find a pothole or six (blame the govt, not me :-
) i am quite fond of the soft spring/hard shock setup that i have now, although my hands are tied when it comes to doing anything radical to the car else itll put me in a class where i have to compete against 3litre V6 - not happy when i have 1500cc to work with.

My whole post (the one i deleted) was about giving our friend something to consider other than the usual showroom hype -
H U G E shiny rims = hot looks/fighter plane handling/lotsa chix drooling hehe. A car is a complete package and we just cant go and do mind blowing alterations to one bit without sussing out what its going to do to the other things around it. Not if we wanna stay on the road that is. Dragging your car out of the side of a mountain is not a happy experience I can promise you - as soon as we find out that we can walk, we start cursing the bent bits and the railings and the panel shop bills. Rims are not noted for their stickiness - its the tyres that keep our cars glued to the ground, and it is my firm belief that we should give em more than a bit of thought before we go out and play gladiator with the traffic coz theres always something trying to kill us on the roads.

You got a damn good deal with those rims - well done! just dont let some scuzz pinch them - my mate lost the factory rims off his VT SS dunnydore from under his carport while he was sleeping!

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Re: Just bought a 1982 ra60 celica.. and have sum problems and questions... Fri, 12 July 2002 14:36 Go to previous message
Hmm... CompII pads huh? I'll keep that in mind when it's time for new pads (should be soon).

The handling isn't for everyone once you lower your car and ride on 17" rims. It's not very good fun being a passenger in my car (so I've been told by almost everyone who's ridden in it Wink), but on a smooth road, nothing beats it...
Potholes really do suck though, especially mid-corner... Disgusted

True, huge rims don't equate to grip, but it's a LOT easier finding 7.5" wide rims when they're 16" or 17" in diameter... Wider tyres (with less sidewall flex) and lower profile allow you to get better grip and feel/feedback from your tyres.
Depends on the weight of the car of course, if your car is light, you don't really want tyres that are too wide...

It's true that they attract more attention though. That's something that I hate. Sometimes I wish that I did find a set of MA61 rims 'coz then I wouldn't worry about parking the car anywhere.
There's a bit of comfort in the fact that rims in 114.3x4 and RWD offset aren't very high demand... Plus they're old, so there's less worth in them....
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