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Re: ae101 gze Question/aftermarket ECU's
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Mon, 21 July 2003 02:02
 
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| twincam_ke20 wrote on Sun, 20 July 2003 17:11 |
heres my question, will any ae101 gze loom fit a ae101 gze?
Or can you only use the loom that came with that motor?
Or would i be better off just going an aftermarket, if so whats the going prices roughly and what type, ie microtech, haltech series etc
Also, what hubs would i need to put in to my twinky so im able to use the ae101 lsd box?
Any replies will be most appreciated
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Gday twincam,
I'm no expert on this but this is the way i see it. I really don't think there was more than one model ae101 gze engine in japan, so, if you have an ae101 gze wiring loom, it should fit your engine perfectly, and if it doesn't fit perfect, it will be very close! Maybe one had aircon and the other didn't, so you might find no aircon wiring or something little like that. Doubt it though, should all be fine. Are the ae101 gze fuse boxes the same as the fuse boxes you have ?
However, if you're going to put in the ae101 gze loom yourself, you might elect to just go get a nice aftermarket system rather than paying to have the original loom put on, and then realising you want an aftermarket system and paying for the wiring to be done twice. I opted to use the original ecu with my 20 valve 4age, this was due to me knowing that i didn't have much money at the time, and also wasn't playing with forced induction (not to say that an aftermarket would not have been better though).
So as far as the wiring is concerned my advise would be compare the difference between having the standard ecu all wired up (loom cost/installationg if you dont do it yourself) with how much it will cost to get a microtech or something shoved in there. Go to a wiring place and get quotes i reckon!
Hope this helped someway,
Seeks.
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Re: ae101 gze Question/aftermarket ECU's
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Mon, 21 July 2003 04:44
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Hey seeks, thanks for the detailed response
Umm the fuse box, yeh i dunno what they look like  this motor didnt come with one, everything bar the comp/ecu fuse box, i was hoping the normal 4age fuse might work, anyone wanna shed some light on this, will it work?
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&a mp;item=2424151385&category=32624&rd=1
thats the computer i was going to get to run it, will these do the job? What are peoples opinions about haltech E6K's?
I reckon youd be right about not worrying about the orignal ae101 loom, by time i find one, buy it, pay someone to install it, it would almost be have if not more of an aftermarket one neways, id be better of saving a little extra and getting it `eh?
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sydney
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March 2003
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Mon, 21 July 2003 07:32
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Side show, i have tried e-mailing you a few times, yet no replies? why?
Anyways thanks for replying to this  Do you know where i can get a std loom/ecu and fuse box from? if so how much please?
With this haltech one, from what the haltech guy e-mailed me today, is that i need
3 Bar MAP Sensor (Turbo/Supercharged 30psi max): AU$198.00
Basic Connector Kit (air/coolant/tps/map sensor connectors only): AU$36.00
and the
Haltech E6K NEW EMS Suit 4AGE/4AGZE: AU$1515.00
Total: AU$1749.00
How does that sound? are you familiar with haltech or should i best steer clear of them?
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Re: ae101 gze Question/aftermarket ECU's
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Mon, 21 July 2003 08:18
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i reply to all emails im pretty sure
u can try sss automotive
not to sure how much
best to call them02 989 66111
i have some experience in autronic
most aftermarket ecus will do the job good for u
it just depends if the tuner knows that ecu well
i can get u an autronic for 2200
i think that will use yr ignitor, throttle sensor,
kit comes with an air temp sensor
and u have to buy a temp sensor which are very cheap bout 20 bucks
sorry i dont have much to do with prices for programmable ecus
as im not doing any of them at the moment so i dont know what prices or discounts they can give me since i dont buy them bulk
i can chase em up
but expect to spend about 3000 plus for a haltech/autronic/motec to be wired up and tuned
u mihgt get the haltech done for bit cheaper
best to find a good tuner in yr area and ask them prices for complete job and ask how good they know the ecu
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I supported Toymods
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Re: ae101 gze Question/aftermarket ECU's
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Mon, 21 July 2003 08:21
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i have been quoted by Ricol automotive $1500 to install and tune a EMS Stinger into my 20V.
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Re: ae101 gze Question/aftermarket ECU's
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Mon, 21 July 2003 08:47
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thats ok
if they do the whole job then u can save some money
rigolis and roccos specialise in ems so they know them well
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Re: ae101 gze Question/aftermarket ECU's
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Mon, 21 July 2003 08:59
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Thanks sideshow, might just try SSS, worth a try anyway.
I reckon i'll most likely go the haltech way though, got someone in the trade, might be able to get it a bit cheaper then that too, so yeh, im sure there's a haltech tuner in melbourne, bit more calling around me thinks 
EvilJack, was that $1500 for the EMS stinger and install/tune? Or just to install and tune it? May i ask how much the EMS was?
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Re: ae101 gze Question/aftermarket ECU's
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Tue, 22 July 2003 07:37
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argh, what to do! just called an engineer, i wont get passed, and if i want to, its gonna cost like almost 3000!!! Apparently i cant use an aftermarket computer with that motor in a 1987+ vehicle, well technically i can but its gonna cost me a fourch! 
then i call SSS in Syd looking for a loom/ecu, he reckons i wont find one, especially with an igniter  he can sell me a package for the rolla, motor/box(non-lsd)/loom/ecu/radiator/
drive shafts and a few other little bits and pieces for 2500 with delivery to Vic.
what do i do!? buy this ae101 with lsd box minus loom/ecu or half that price, or get it from SSS or just buy a f**king half cut!? ARGHHHHHHH
GZE ppl in melb, help me please!
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Re: ae101 gze Question/aftermarket ECU's
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Wed, 23 July 2003 06:33
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get a half cut, then you will have all the loom, sensors, brakes, driveshafts, relays, tacho, etc etc etc and you wont have too much trouble getting it running (apart from the rear engine mount with the E series box). You will save money in the long run with a GZE halfcut. ps, dont pay over $2200-2400 for a halfcut, pay anymore than that and you are really getting ripped off.
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