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flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 21 July 2003 09:52
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when I'm at idle or low throttle/revs I can sometimes hear a strange sqeaking/rattling noise. if I put the clutch in, it goes away. I'm assuming this is a flywheel problem, but does anyone have any idea what the problem could be? possibly it's misaligned?
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 21 July 2003 09:56
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Throw out bearing?
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 21 July 2003 10:05
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*blinks*
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 21 July 2003 10:06
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| draven wrote on Mon, 21 July 2003 20:05 |
*blinks*
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What the hell does that mean?  
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 21 July 2003 10:07
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me thinks throwout or pilot/spigot bearing
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 21 July 2003 10:11
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it means i dunno what the throwout bearing is.
my knowledgle of clutches/flywheels is pretty limited.
is this a big problem that should be fixed immediately, or soething that can wait a few months?
bearing in mind it's been doing it for a few weeks now
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 21 July 2003 10:14
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if the bearing seizes it may fuck the fingers on the pressure plate, maybe even the throwout fork will be damaged... i dunno... i've never seen a throwout beaing seize...
mainy becuase they cost around $11 and are a peice of piss to replace
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 21 July 2003 10:16
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"piece of piss" yeah, but still requires a lot of pulling apart, which takes a lot of time, and time I dont have a lot of unfortunately 
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 21 July 2003 10:18
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pfft... takes me about 1 hour to change a throwout bearing on an RA28 - if i rush it that is...
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 21 July 2003 11:55
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Mine does the same thing, and in fact pretty much all Supra 5-speeds seem to do it to some degree. It's the throwout bearing, and they just do that. Don't worry about it. 
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 21 July 2003 20:59
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could be thrust bearing, or whatever yo want to call it but i doubt it would squeak, if it was the problem you would just hear a bearing noise of it spinning, does your car have a duel mass flywheel? they can tend to squeak,
a duel mass flywheel kinda is a two piece flywheel where the inside of it is connected to the outside via these little shock absorber things, and they can squeak, you can pull the flywheel apart and and put some grease on them and that will make them better but i know for subaru with this complaint they have new bushes we install that are meant to be "non squeaking" but before you do anything check weather you have a dual mass flywheel or go to a dealer and speak to one of the head mechanics as they will most likely have seen this problem heaps of times and know exactly what it is likely to be.
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Tue, 22 July 2003 10:42
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Nah he wouldn't have a dual-mass flywheel. They were found behind 2JZ-GTE's, but not 1JZ-GTE's.
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Tue, 22 July 2003 10:54
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I have the same problem on my t50, Input shaft bearing is my problem but may well be throw out bearing, an expensive clutch specialist will charge about $300 to replace and fit, shouldnt take longer then 3hrs.
Steve
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Tue, 22 July 2003 11:06
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yup, three options.
the thrust bearing (the one that pushes onto the fingers of the pressure plate)
spigot bearing (in the end of the crank, stabilises the input shaft of the gearbox at the engine end of it)
gearbox input bearing.
since it goes away when you push in the clutch, i would guess it is option number 1. i have the same thing happening atm, but it goes away when it's warm... thrust bearings are pretty hufty little buggers, but eventually wear and make noise. when it starts going CRUNCH CRUNCH it's probably about to die, but they last a very long time (kinda like axle bearings) and take a long time to die too.
one interesting thing (at least for K motor clutches) is that when the bearing starts making nasty noises, it's also time to change the clutch friction and pressure plate.
if it's only squeaking with the clutch out, don't worry yet. if it gets really noisey, and makes worse noise when you puch in the clutch, you gotta change it...
be happy it's just squeaking (it's just letting you know it's there  )
Cya, Stewart
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Tue, 22 July 2003 11:11
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my one is noise too...
I'll change it when I pull the motor out at the end of the year.
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Tue, 22 July 2003 12:14
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that's reassuring.
it's just sqeaking at the moment. It doesn't go away when the engine's warm ... but there's no sort of crunching. if there wqere crunching, I would have been more worried
the clutch is slipping a little at the moment anyhow, so I figure the clutch will go before the bearing, so I'll change it all at the same time.
thanks guys
ps... norbie, it's a 2jz-ge flywheel (so the w58 box mates to it), but I dont think they came with 2-opice either
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Wed, 23 July 2003 00:23
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No it doesn't. I have a 2JZ-GE flywheel as well and it's just a normal steel disc like every other flywheel I've seen.
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Wed, 23 July 2003 03:55
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Yeah, mine makes a scraping noise sometimes when it's cold and in gear. Clutching makes it stop...
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Wed, 23 July 2003 04:23
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If it makes the noise when the clutch is pushed in it is the thrust bearing/ clutch release bearing. If it is noisy when you are in neutral and the clutch is out it is the gearbox input bearing. Both need the box out to fix.
Brad
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Wed, 23 July 2003 06:06
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It's definitely not the input shaft bearing if the noise goes away when pressure is applied on the clutch pedal.
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Fri, 25 July 2003 10:39
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maybe a related Q maybe not, my olds early 90's petrol Landcrusier is every now and then letting of a short grindin like noise, almost a metal squeak i guess. could that be the same thing? mechanics cant find the problem. we have had problems with the clutch on it since like day two! any ideas? my mum describes it as sounding like "a piece of metal or some thing getting caught in the clutch and droping off" she thinks it might be a chip of some thing getting caught that comes back ever time the oil recycles over it. i got no idea!
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Sun, 27 July 2003 13:08
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Just make shure its not unburnt fuel igniting in your muffler and making a un-godly metalic CLANK when it basicly explodes in it!
Its a LONG story but all i can say is ill never forget 2JZ's have 8 flywheel bolts 14mm in size! and i have a new found disliking for redback mufflers!
Allan
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Re: flwheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 28 July 2003 04:28
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c'mon allan, tell us the story.
it sounds painful and annoying
definitly the flywheel... the sound is not anything like unburnt fuel igniting (if it didn't stop when I put the clutch in, I'd heck on it with how rich my car is running)
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Re: flywheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 28 July 2003 07:25
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Let's just say we spent 5 hours under a certain brown Corona 2 door trying to find some godawful metallic noise that for the life of me sounded like it was coming from the back of the engine. We sequentially removed bits of drivetrain till we were left with the flywheel. We shimmed the starter motor and ground 2-3mm off the end of the flywheel bolts - still this terrible noise. Only when we sat under the car and blipped the throttle to coax the sound did we notice the muffler bellowing like an accordion. Dropped the muffler (straight out the engine pipes!) and sat under the car (my ears are still recovering)....no more noise. Whilst I am annoyed that a shitty muffler caused the noise (the noise was very metallic), I am relieved that the motor is fine.
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Re: flywheel (?) is making a squeaking/rattling noise
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Mon, 28 July 2003 08:47
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Hey Dave Should of got the $100 one from repco it probably would of fitted and you would of been about $14 better off!!!!
And looked at mufflers on the F100 thay have spotwelds in the center to stop that kind of sound happening!!!
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