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November 2002
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Camira Fuel Pump
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Tue, 22 July 2003 01:08
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Bosch Australia will not quote any part numbers or fuel pump performance specs for its Camira / VL Turbo external fuel pump.
I think I have one of these in my hot little hands right now.
Can someone please confirm for me that this is the right part number: '0 580 463 014' ?
The pump then says '12V 450 014', with the '014' inside a circle.
I'm told it came from a JD EFI Camira and is the external pump originally mounting alongside the fuel filter under the rear end of the car.
Thanks for your help.
Cheers,
Mitch.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
September 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Tue, 22 July 2003 08:17
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Hey,
Your in luck, I just picked up a VL Turbo pump. Its a different part number to what you have.
Under the rubber bushing it says:
BOSCH 0 580 464 033
12V 937 552 Made in France
I doubt very much that the Camira/VL Turbo pumps are the same part. Boosted 3L vs POS 2lt ;p
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Tue, 22 July 2003 10:34
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Camira pumps are the same as VL pumps, but the VL turbo pumps are apparently slightly different.
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Tue, 22 July 2003 11:14
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The same but slightly different 
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MACKAY
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May 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Tue, 22 July 2003 11:29
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I got 3 in front of me and what they come from :
0 580 463 014 - with green band CAMIRA ..
0 580 464 050 - with black band VL TURBO..
0 580 464 039 - no band but has steel outlet for HiPreasure fittings VOLVO ..
Trevor
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Location:
Melbourne
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September 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Tue, 22 July 2003 12:37
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I didnt happen to get a bracket with mine... how are they fitted to the cars?
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Tue, 22 July 2003 14:15
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They have a bracket that goes around the pump(cushioned with rubber) and has 1 or 2 bolts on the side 
I have one I could get a photo of if you really really need it?
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Location:
Melbourne
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September 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Tue, 22 July 2003 14:19
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Yeah if you could that would be good  Ive gota make one up for my sprinter.
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Tue, 22 July 2003 14:25
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I'll see what I can do.
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Location:
Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Wed, 23 July 2003 09:05
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I'm fairly certain that if you have two ORIGINAL pumps from a VL N/A & VL Turbo, they will have different part numbers from each other, but as a replacement, Bosch list one generic pump for both.
I've got two new ones in the garage, I'll compare the p/n against what you guys have....
Phil
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Location:
1st street on the right
Registered:
November 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Wed, 23 July 2003 09:17
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I have seen a master book for the bosh pumps. They are all listed (Camira, VL & VL turbo) under the one pic, one master number and different application numbers depending on the car. The outlet that I purchased mine from (and showed me the book to prove the apparent lack of difference) sold them for racing apps and ordered the camira ones as tghey were the ceapest and said they had no probs ever so... Interesting situation, I am in no way saying that I'm correct though.
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Location:
Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Wed, 23 July 2003 10:34
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ok, these are the ones I have in front of me:
ORIGINAL VL non turbo:
0 580 464 033
12V (551) Made in France
Replacement Bosch for VL turbo & non turbo:
0 580 464 070
12V (014) Made in Germany
Cheers
Phil
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Location:
Melbourne
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September 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Wed, 23 July 2003 11:55
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Hmm, if you 100% know that your pump is a VL Turbo then the n/a and turbo pumps are the same then? I watched the pump I have being pulled out of the car so I know its a turbo one...
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Registered:
November 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Wed, 23 July 2003 23:17
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Thanks everyone for the info on this thread, the part numbers are excellent.
I have the one with the green band and the part numbers match, confirming the Camira pump. The Goss replacement fuel pump cattle-dog lists the minimum basic spec's for their replacement pump for a Camira and I will use these to check the fuel delivery is OK for my planned motor.
I'm mounting my pump under the body so I looked at every Toyota in the wreckers yards with an external pump and found that the bracket from an SV11 Camry gives the pump the most protection from damage and has good options for mounting. The Camira pump slots straight into this bracket too. The original Camira pump bracket is too complex to mount anyway easily under my RA23.
Mitch.
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Location:
Melbourne
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September 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Thu, 24 July 2003 02:38
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Is the SV11 mount the same as a SV21?
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Registered:
November 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Thu, 24 July 2003 03:58
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I have not looked at an SV21, but did they have the pump inside the fuel tank ?
If not I would guess that they are the same bracket.
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Location:
Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Sun, 27 July 2003 03:00
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My understanding is that the VL turbo uses a bigger pump than the camira/VL NA originally, but often they are replaced with the bigger one anyways
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Location:
Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Sun, 27 July 2003 07:36
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I ran my 1g on a camira pump fine till it died, 2nd hand pumps seem to have a habit of that though.. then I had to bite the bullet and buy a brand new VL n/a pump as I was on holidays at the time.. and the car is running fine, is supporting ~150rwKW
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Location:
melb
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June 2003
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Mon, 28 July 2003 00:57
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The bosch #*#*#*# 070 part no pump replaces many of the older
part no pumps, its the most universal pump and should be ok
200kw and under , but always run a pre filter before the pump
with min 10 mm fuel lines , they run noisy if you dont, they
also like a fuel supply mounted higher than then the pump.
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Registered:
November 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Mon, 28 July 2003 06:19
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Thanks for the tips Dave, pre-filter before the pump, and the pump lower than the fuel supply.
Do you know if the standard Camira set up also had a pre-filter before the pump ?
When I pulled this mounting bracket from an old JD model, it looked like it was set up this way....
Thanks,
Mitch.
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Location:
melb
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June 2003
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Mon, 28 July 2003 15:42
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i would have to say most definatly yes because even the smallest
particle of rubbish will sieze one of these pumps
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Registered:
November 2002
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Re: Camira Fuel Pump
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Mon, 28 July 2003 23:16
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Thanks Dave.
Mitch.
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