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I supported Toymods
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 New corolla sportivo??
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Tue, 29 July 2003 04:24
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just wonderind what the gerneral consensus was on the new sportivo?? I'm looking into buying one, but not sure if its worth the extra money?? on the website, its $19990 for an accent (bottom line) and $29990 for the sportivo...
the sportivo has abs, and electric options, and a 141kw engine.. is it worth the extra??
im under the impression it will be, especially when keeping it for 3+ years...
any input would be great...
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Tue, 29 July 2003 05:04
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I have read several reviews of the new corolla and they don't like it that much.  I think one I read was in wheels magazine this month actually...?
They much prefer the new Astra turbo actually (I hate to say it)
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Tue, 29 July 2003 13:57
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Hey All,
I have a friend that is trading up his 18 month old 1ZZ-FE Corolla for the Sportivo 2ZZ-GE Corolla. I'll let you guys find out what you think but it should go as hard or similar to that of my dad's Celica. Though, I can't get comprehensive insurance on it under my name i think because the insurance will treat it like the Celica...
Cheers.
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Tue, 29 July 2003 22:39
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If your looking at upgrading to a new rolla anyway, the sportivo is definatley worth the extra 10g over the base.
Climate control
Lexus style instruments
full leather interior
body kit
16" rims
141kw
6 speed
6 disc stacker.
Not bad for only 10g more. Sure the turbo astra has more torque and may be better, but your up for another 8-9g. Value for money = da rolla
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Wed, 30 July 2003 00:54
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Hey I test drove one a month ago. I seemed to like it alot and I mean alot. It is powerful and has a high reving engine. To me if you want a nice quick car stock get this car. But however I wouldn't buy the base model and try to modify it thinking it will go faster than the sportivo as I think it will cost a fair bit. Plus the dealer told me they are only bringing out a few hundred maybe 2 or 3 each month for short time. So I think you should get one.
Cheers
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Wed, 30 July 2003 03:55
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Have read this and tell me what you guys think.
Toyota has quoted the Corolla sportvo as having 141kw at the flywheel. In a recent Motor mag they compared the:
Sportivo Corolla 141kw
Turbee Astra 147kw
Supercharged Mini 120kw
Ford Focus sporty one 127kw
As part of the test they dynoed all four cars and the corolla got the lowest figure of 87 front hoop kw whilst the astra got the highest with 100fwkw, the ford and mini in between with around 88 and 89 respectively.
Im just wondering whether the toyotas torque figure which is lowest out of the four contributed to the lowest reading, but if torque makes no difference then shouldnt the power at the flywheel be around the 120-130kw mark. So maybe Toyota is misquoting their power figures.
confusing..... 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Wed, 30 July 2003 04:24
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Gee, mis-quoting power figures on a small NA engine...Toyota never does that... 
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Wed, 30 July 2003 04:28
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um....chassis dyno
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I supported Toymods
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Wed, 30 July 2003 04:56
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yeah, i think its worth the extra 10g aswell... but isurance is going to be a killer..
just cars quoted $3600 for me full comp..
thats only if i can get the $34 000 to buy the car in the frst place....
lol
but i think they are sexy...
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Wed, 30 July 2003 08:25
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| RobST162 wrote on Tue, 29 July 2003 15:04 |
I have read several reviews of the new corolla and they don't like it that much. I think one I read was in wheels magazine this month actually...?
They much prefer the new Astra turbo actually (I hate to say it)
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I prefer it too..  kidding.. though having driven the turbo, it feels very linear in terms of power delivery from 1500rpm when the turbo just gives a constant stream of power to the redline so it's not peaky by any means.
If the Sportivo produces those numbers, can't it market itself against the Teg Type R? surely someone can sell Type R performance (and handling) at <$40k... though it may caniballise (sp?) the Celica sales.
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Wed, 30 July 2003 11:43
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The new rolla rocks and they go pretty well too...
It's really no use comparing the Astra to the Rolla anywayz... Cause thats Forced Induction vs Naturally Aspirated...
Matt, try NRMA  ... Might be 'cheaper'... Hahaha...
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Wed, 30 July 2003 12:25
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| Billy-Mason PI wrote on Wed, 30 July 2003 13:55 |
Have read this and tell me what you guys think.
Toyota has quoted the Corolla sportvo as having 141kw at the flywheel. In a recent Motor mag they compared the:
Sportivo Corolla 141kw
Turbee Astra 147kw
Supercharged Mini 120kw
Ford Focus sporty one 127kw
As part of the test they dynoed all four cars and the corolla got the lowest figure of 87 front hoop kw whilst the astra got the highest with 100fwkw, the ford and mini in between with around 88 and 89 respectively.
Im just wondering whether the toyotas torque figure which is lowest out of the four contributed to the lowest reading, but if torque makes no difference then shouldnt the power at the flywheel be around the 120-130kw mark. So maybe Toyota is misquoting their power figures.
confusing.....
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It loses power though the drivetrain.
Kinda sucks dont it?
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Thu, 31 July 2003 01:26
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if this were the case they would have alot of large law suits againts them for faulse advertising.... wouldnt be good for toyota and i know everone always over qoutes the performance figures but only by a little not by a 20 kw figure thats very strange i will look further into this i think!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Thu, 31 July 2003 01:58
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Can anybody say Blacktop 20V? That doesn't make its quoted power, not even on an engine dyno where there isn't room for speculation.
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Thu, 31 July 2003 08:33
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As a daily driver I'm really happy with mine's performance on the road.
Interestingly, most people talk about the big kick up in the rev range, but after driving one for a while there's more than one. I find the engine to be really flexible, and probably the most responsive engine I've ever driven. I didn't really think I'd like it as much as I do.
Which gear did they dyno it in? 5th?
And er insurance.....$65 per month. Insure it through the toyota dealership at the time and Allianz are really good with their toyota extra care stuff.
And look up close at the Astra Turbo. The build quality is way below the Corolla. Hav you ever driven an old astra. Fark, give me an ae92 anyday over a similiar year astra....
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Thu, 31 July 2003 13:11
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$65 a month?
Thats better than my $223 a moth on my ascent!
How old are u?
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Thu, 31 July 2003 13:56
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Fri, 01 August 2003 00:17
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I'll be going to look at both the sportivo and the conquest tomorrow hopefully. so ill be able to compare driving both. If there is a HUGE difference between the two, i'll have to STTTTTTRRRREEEEEEECCCCHHHH my budget to accomadate the spotivo....
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Wed, 06 August 2003 06:17
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I own a sportivo, love it. Heaps of power and quite a good engine to play with. Looks like a dressed up corolla and people at the lights have no idea what is under the bonnet... worth it for the look on their faces 
My insurance is about $900 pa. (28, sydney, rating 1)
The difference between the stock corolla and the sportivo is well worth the extra cash... 
...and there is still all the TRD goodies available
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Wed, 06 August 2003 10:49
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| jase wrote on Thu, 31 July 2003 18:33 |
And look up close at the Astra Turbo. The build quality is way below the Corolla. Hav you ever driven an old astra. Fark, give me an ae92 anyday over a similiar year astra....
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I wouldn't go that far... I haven't had anything fallen off my car yet and mine is lowered with Koni + 16".. no panel alignment issues.... no paint imperfection problems, no trim fallen off... had some warranty job.. but nothing that would alarm anyone. Opel have improved a lot in the past 4-5 years to get right up close to the Japanese standards so I'm not even considering the TR Astra. They were a piece of shxx... In fact the Thai factory I think builds better Zafira than the Belgiums and Spanish in building the Astra and Barina.
And I also have in the household an AE92... now that is a shitter but a reliable shitter none-other-the-less.
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Thu, 07 August 2003 11:44
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new sportivos are VERY nice on the inside.
My mate just bought one
still looks like a levin (sleeper, kinda)
But they are not that quick,has hothing below 6 grand, my car is exactally the same as one over the quarter. (AE-71 PV 100Kw)
I like the idea of my 8 grand shitbox (total spent) being just as quick as a $33,000 hot hatch!!
But as i said VERY VERY nice on the inside. love the climate control 
but still its the best new non-grandpa toyota made
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Re: New corolla sportivo??
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Tue, 12 August 2003 14:35
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Hey guys,
My bro got one a month or so ago and i've driven it quite a bit. I myself own an ae92 silvertop 20v.
To be honest the engines feel very similar up until about 5500-6000 rpm, I think the 'jolt' in the sportivo is very defined, has a very "on/off" feel about it as opposed to laggy (but strong) forced induction.
I think when you look at the features, full beautiful leather interior, nice 6 speed box etc etc this car is a good thing.
Seems like the next new thing in toyotas range of little zippy N/A toyotas.
For a new N/A zippy hatch - I like it,
Seeks.
PS as if you'd turn one down as your work car  (yes, his work got him a sportivo for him (and me I guess) to flog the shite out of).
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