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Location: Caboolture QLD
Registered: June 2003
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getting roadworthy -rust-
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Tue, 12 August 2003 02:37
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hi guys, can i get a hand here with some questions about getting roadworthyness for my celica?
with reguards to rust there is large bubbled area's where roofracks once sat and some on corner of doors and a few patches on the chassis? rail part between front and rear wheels + plus some in corners of the wheeltubs? boot is rusted out bad along the bottom strip where the bootseal goes, was told i can cut all along and weld a new strip in,
i assume it can't be leaking oil?
what must be done for me to rwc for my car? as i don't wanna be going back and forth wasting money.
i appriecate if you can help me here,
Alex
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Location: Mornington Peninsula
Registered: September 2002
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Tue, 12 August 2003 02:53

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By the sounds of it you've got a Celica!???
Hope you know how to weld or know someone that does.
That rust between your front and rear wheels is actually in the sil, not the chassis rail. This is due to all the drain holes being plugged. Un plug them and dry it out. Not as bad as it seems.
To solve all your rust problems just start cutting the bubble's out and about 4cm's around them. That's the only way you can be sure you get most of it out, otherwise it will keep coming back. That's what I've had to do to my project. Once the rust is cut out just weld new bits of metal in and then shape with metal filler or bog. Not sure how legal bog is though in some states.
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Location: Perth
Registered: May 2003
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Tue, 12 August 2003 03:06

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everyone loves bog
Slap it on there sand it back primer it up they wont know the differnce
Get some sandpaper ready.
If you take it over the bits they will get out a hammer like thing and bash all the rust spots if it goes strait threw it wont pass - i think
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I supported Toymods Banned User
Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Tue, 12 August 2003 03:38

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I know someone in brisbane that will cut out the rust and do a good job for a good price if your interested.
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Tue, 12 August 2003 04:55

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aw comeon guys, take some advice from the expert. Aside from painted sticy tape, this is what I did when I fixed up an ancient Camira - and got it past pink slip.
I went to Fiberglass Material Services in Seven Hills and bought 4 litres of resin and 3 square metres of fiberglass mesh and went to town!
A little respray of the panels after some very nice fibreglassing and you would NEVER know. I was so impressed with myself. I had never seen rust like this before, and she was all sorted sweet as.
The fact that the car blew its head gasket the day I got it registered didn't impress me though.
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Location: Caboolture QLD
Registered: June 2003
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:18

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depends on how good the price i'd rather get a decent job doen or else i'l go superbodgy like the previous owners did, ha,
anyone know some bodgy shops near me to get a rwc done?
thanks so far guys, i think mr fibreglass is winning at the moment , and a close second the projob. did youcut/sand the rust off a bit then do the fibreglassing? wouldn't it be bulging out a bit off the panels?
thanks so far guys,
Alex
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:27

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well it all depends. Fiberglass sets VERY hard, naturally, and you can mix the resin up so that it is very stiff and will set very quickly. But this isn't absolutely necessary - depending on your timeframe and paitience level. Mine is quite small. 
I scraped all the rust out I could, and the sanded the area as well as using a wire bit on a drill, and then painted the surrounds with the K & H Rust Converter (very good stuff)
I then applied fiberglass to the interior of the panel, and waited till it was quite stiff and then applied one or two exterior coats. The bulk of the fiberglass support came from the interior so that the 'wall' was actually quite strong.
Then I attacked it with an orbital sander and brought it down to a nice smooth surface and then I painted it!
Presto!
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I supported Toymods Banned User
Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Tue, 12 August 2003 05:48

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The guy that I know can also get you a RWC if you get him to do the rust. He does a good job which I can prove if you come and have a look at my girlfriends car.
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Location: Cabooture QLD
Registered: November 2002
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Tue, 12 August 2003 06:04

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lol Alex sounds like yours has more rust in it then mine did
i just sanded it all back used rust converter on it and filled it with metalfiller (the fibreglass stuff) and sanded it back and it fine now
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Location: Caboolture QLD
Registered: June 2003
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Tue, 12 August 2003 06:11

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yeah well ya live and learn, never purchase a car by only seeing it in a dark garage, still contemplating selling the pos thing for all the trouble it's givin me, and getting something with a rwc and nothing needing work, need a drivable car!
thanks for your help guys!
Alex
Cool1 never mind i don't even have $$$ for sandpaper at the moment, thanks for offering that's what's great about these forums...
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Tue, 12 August 2003 06:13

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I have lots of fiberglass and resin I will sell cheap if you need it
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: June 2003
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Tue, 12 August 2003 11:52

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For white cars i've used silicon to fill holes as large as 5cm in diameter... it's nice and thick + its easy to smooth over... just have to watch that they dont see and light holes poking thru...
On a side note... panel rust in "cut out and fill" sizes are absolutely legal.... only rust in critical chasis frame / important places of logical safety are illegal...
Does any one know if a good condition spare tyre is needed... ?? One would think so...
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: May 2002
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Wed, 13 August 2003 00:46

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pollyfiller $10
cheap spray can of undercoat $2.50
geting the RWC Priceless
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Location: c'town, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Wed, 13 August 2003 02:30

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hehe those were the days
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Location: Caboolture QLD
Registered: June 2003
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Re: getting roadworthy -rust-
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Thu, 14 August 2003 03:00
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well the fun begins now, literally, i have a dremel and angle dgrinder and tips? should i grind away all rust to save time. how do i go abouts fixeing rust where roofracke have been? do i need to cut out a rectangle? and weld or bog it up? any tips are fully appriecated!
thanks guys,
Alex
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