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 help me decide on my new engine
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Wed, 13 August 2003 13:37
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hey how is ya!!
im sick of having a slow car!! i own a 1982 toyota se corolla with a stock gear box diff tailshaft and 4k engine!!
but ive had so many people telling me akll this bullshit that i dont wana hear?!!! like "opi man dont do up your rolla its just a stupid rolla! get a real car like a comadoore" i say nah stuff that!! i love my lil car i no its got pertension to be sick mate!!
so yeah i dont know what type of engine to replace my 4k with and i need to know if its hard to put the new engine in!! and shit like that!! so if ya can help me it would be sick mate!!!
cheers! ciao
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sydney
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January 2003
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Re: help me decide on my new engine
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Wed, 13 August 2003 13:42
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4age 16v 
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Melbourne
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November 2002
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Re: help me decide on my new engine
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Thu, 14 August 2003 03:03
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i agree with sprintr,
the 4age 16v (100kw FWD) will prolly be the most value for money. they're robust, easy to chuck into an ae82, they're relatively cheap, and are readily available from most decent toyota wreckers. on the driveability side, i'm sure you've heard plenty about them already.
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Location:
c'town, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: help me decide on my new engine
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Thu, 14 August 2003 03:46
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is your rolla a KE55 or a KE70?
KE70 can be easily converted to a 4A-GE using AE71 parts.
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Location:
perth
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August 2003
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Re: help me decide on my new engine
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Thu, 14 August 2003 09:28
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to ROB_RA40
in regards of ya question what is my car its a ke70 rear wheel drive!
would you still recomend putting in a 4age 16v 100kw fwd in it??
can you bolt on a turbo???
hhuhuhuhuh
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Location:
perth
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August 2003
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Re: help me decide on my new engine
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Thu, 14 August 2003 09:32
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to ROB_RA40
when you replied to my question!! you said that i would need to use the AE71 parts to help put my 4A_GE engine in!!! what parts would i need to get in exchange for what on my car!!
sorry bout all the qeustions!!! i just dont know much about cars!! thanx for your help tho man!
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Location:
c'town, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: help me decide on my new engine
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Thu, 14 August 2003 23:56
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| rob_RA40 wrote on Thu, 14 August 2003 19:39 |
u can use the AE71 engine crossmember to mount the 4A-GE. The AE71 came with the ol' 4A-C
as for converting a 4A-GE to RWD check out the 4A-GE websites round the net (there are heaps of them just google)
and check out all of the tech articles here
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Agreed...
to 82rolla, I also own one of these things (an '82 KE70 XX).
It now runs a 100KW 4AGE with extractors and a 2.5" exhaust system. How does it go? Well, put it this way, it's putting out more than twice the power of your 4K...So it goes very nicely! What's even better, is that we've kept it virtually completely stock-looking. Viewed on the street, it's indistinguishable from a standard example (except if you look closely, you can see that the alloy "XX" rims are actually 14", rather than the stock 13"s, and there is a shortened 2.5" exhaust poking out the back...As for Commodores, it leaves a lot of V6 Commodore drivers looking like this:  ===>  ===>  ===> 
Check out the articles Rob linked...It's well worth the swap!
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perth
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August 2003
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Re: help me decide on my new engine
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Tue, 19 August 2003 02:29
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thanx alot for you reply!!
but should i use a 5 speed from a later model rolla or a supra or sumthing like that!!!
my uncle has a 9inch diff cut to fit a rx7 should i swap my stock diff for that or somthing completly different??? and i will also use a tailshaft from a 1 tonna and cut and balance it for my car!!! sound good???
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Location:
perth
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August 2003
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Re: help me decide on my new engine
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Tue, 19 August 2003 02:40
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how did the car go over the pits to relicience it???
does the guys in blue give you much greif about the rebuild??
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: help me decide on my new engine
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Tue, 19 August 2003 03:22
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a 9 inch diff is WAY overkill for a 4age... even a turbo 4age.. hell even a 3sgte.
I would maybe fit a f series from a Mk 2 corona, then if you want an LSD fit one.. or.. just stick with the t series diff that the KE70 has. T series will hold up to a 4age ok, depends on how you drive too.
You can also use the T-50 gbox.. again.. depends how you drive.. if you dont flat change or change quickly it should last years.
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: help me decide on my new engine
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Tue, 19 August 2003 04:25
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Agreed with all of the above - 4ag your old girl - stick with your stock diff - and maybe refresh the t50 - and it will be a happy package - your only need of worry is if you start going bigger HP figures - like forced induction . the t50 + diff will handle decent mild cams without much issue at all - its only when you start generating more than around 180 - 200 HP at the engine that they will complain - from what ive seen with similar setups in celicas
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: help me decide on my new engine
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Tue, 19 August 2003 05:53
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I agree 100% with the conversion suggestions placed before you.
Myself i am in the process of such a conversion in my AE71 (just beginning) and it is proving rather simple! Parts aint to hard to come by and its mostly bolt in with a little fabrication work.
To do the conversion using the 100kW 4A-GE as found in AE92 SX an GTi you will need:
# intake manifold "cut and shut" to put the throttle on the other end
# 4a-ge rwd water pump/pipes. Alternatively you can weld up some new stuff
# AE71 crossmember
# T50 gearbox and g'box x-member as found in an AE71/AE86 corolla
# NOT SURE if the KE70 has a different diff, but if so you need the AE71/AE86 rear axle and diff
# new AE71 engine mounts
# AE71 clutch hydraulics - not sure if the KE70 uses cable or hydraulic clutch?
Either way, when using a 4A type motor all the bits you need are easily found on an AE71 or AE86.
Another option, is using the 4age "silvertop" 20valve motor. This are also FWD, but can also be converted to RWD with a little more effort. Also relatively cheap these days.
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