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Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Wed, 13 August 2003 14:05
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yes, i'm talking about the flat ones. i had been told by juzzo and geoff that they would fit wothout any modifications at all. so i bought them from geoff. I offered him good money for them as he said they were in good condition and as i do understand they are hard to get. And also the fact that i am not a tight ass scumbag. Anyway we organised a C.O.D so after paying for them i took the box home and opened it. To my shock horror they were faded and had overspray all over them. "Ok" i thought, "i'll just have to give them a coat. i took them to my car and checked the elctrical plugs. And to my shock horror, they were different! "ok" i thought "i'll just re do the plugs so they are the same". So i began dismantling the ass end of my car. bumper bar comes off then so my original tail lights. As pick up the middle joining section of "Geoffs" tailights, i realise to my shock horror that there are no screws sticking out of it so i can bolt it onto the body, further more the actual tail lights dont fit !  They are too long and overlap the body of the car in the centre.
Lets just say this was a nightmare and a total waste of cash. So let this be a warning to u guys that deal with Juzzo and Geoff. Thanks guys for all your support and priceless knowledge 
So i dont know what to do with them now. Can anyone help?
George.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Wed, 13 August 2003 14:10
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Can't ya jus feel the luv in the room ?? 
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Wed, 13 August 2003 14:14
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huh? yeah yeah. I hope geoff is sticking the my cash up his ass as we speak and enjoying it.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 02:32
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fuck you george, what the fuck have you gone and draged me into your shit with geoff for!!!!!!!
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 02:43
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Watch your mouth Justin. You got dragged into it because the information that u gave me was totally wrong. U were reccommended to me by your ex buddy geoff. And the last thing we wanna see is two fat fucks sticking up their fat fuck fingers. Stick em up your asses.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 03:32
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umm , the lights and centre panel do fit though mofifications are needed - shuldnt be anything major though .. ive seen it done a few times with no problems
wierd.. the only real issue - seeing i HAD a 71 witht he flat lights on it would be the centre panel and how to Mock mount it seeing there isnt any fuel filler behind the centre panel of a 73-74 onwards .. oir bolt holes to accomidate ..
realistically it should be pretty straight forward , the wiring should be identical , the body is no wider at the back between 71 thru to 77 ( ra23 ) the light holes where the light assembly slots in LOOKS the same - so just nut it out + modify where needed .
The flame really isnt worth it king 22 - you might be pissed - but its easier to say " ok so how does it fit " then maiking yourself out to be a hothead ..
im sure SOMEONE on here would have done the conversion and would be able to give you an idea of where you went wrong ..
calm down a bit - think logically - and it will work out ..
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Thu, 14 August 2003 03:46
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i understand what u are saying classique but the point was that i didn't want to do any mods, especially to the body work. I aint gonna chop my car up when the lights are in shit condition anyway. Totally not whorth it.
As for the centre piece (73 onwards) the centre piece was made of plastic and is actually cosiderably longer than the metal (pre 73) piece. There for the backing of it needed to be wider to accomodate that. I'm saying the bodies are any wider, i'm saying the piece of body between the tailights is wider on 73 onwards because of the longer centre piece.
this isn't a spur of the moment hothead thread. This happened over a week ago. I have had time to relax and think about it. Bottom line is that i was fed false infromation by people on here who regard themselves as "gurus" when it comes to this kind of shit.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 03:53
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here are some pics of the flat lights in my 75 model that are fitted with 4 small drill holes as the only modification need, along with the loom to suit the pre 73 lights.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 03:54
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i never said i was a guru, i did not even know that geoff was selling you lights and i was not at all aware of their condition
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 04:00
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ok , still shit happens i guess
Anyway if you still intend to go ahead with the flat light conversion , ask around , if you think the other 2 guys led you astray ..
the whole assembly across from left to right would be needed for it to fit right , thats obvious now to me seeing the plastic bits not going to work with the older lights, - anyway , they look alot sweeter than the newer lights when done correctly ( satin black trims insttead of grey - with chrome highlights was how i was going to do mine )
as for the lenses - you can get them restored im pretty sure - or use some sort of fine cutting compound to buff them back to a shiner finish - though im not 100 % sure on what to use for this ( ive heard toothpaste , mothers fine polish or nu-finish for three examples but dont try these UNTIL you find out for sure ) the process shouldnt be any different to polishing Cd's.
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Thu, 14 August 2003 04:03
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i knew someone had done it - thanks for the pics juzzo - hopefully the pics will put some ice on the flames , and help King22 with his swap ..
Ask and ye shall recieve , but flame and expect to be told to go get fucked ..
here ends todays words of wisdom from the book of classique71 - now go home - crack a coldy - and relax 
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 04:03
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Brasso and a bit of elbow grease for the lenses to get any overspray off. It will also polish them up nicely.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 04:04
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DONT YOU GO TELLING ME THAT THE SHIT THAT I TOLD YOU WAS INCORRECT, THE MONSTER TACHO THAT YOU SOLD ME WAS NOT THE ONE IN THE PICTURE AT ALL, IT WAS NOT THE SPORTS COMP, IT WAS JUST THE BOTTOM OF THE RANGE AUTOGAUGE MODEL!!! SO YOU CAN STICK THOSE TWO FAT FUCK FINGERS UP YOUR ASS AND ROTATE ON THEM
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 04:06
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| Classique71 wrote on Thu, 14 August 2003 14:03 |
i knew someone had done it - thanks for the pics juzzo - hopefully the pics will put some ice on the flames , and help King22 with his swap ..
Ask and ye shall recieve , but flame and expect to be told to go get fucked ..
here ends todays words of wisdom from the book of classique71 - now go home - crack a coldy - and relax
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I think that the problem is that geoff has sold him the incorrect centre panel for the application, the one you should have is metal like the one in the pic of my car, not plastic like all the centres after 1972
justin
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 04:09
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well those lights are shit hot, nothing compared to what i copped. i have no problem with drilling holes, but there is nothing sticking out out the centre piece to put through the holes so i can bolt them up.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 04:12
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if you would be kind enough to provide me with some pics of what you have, then i may be able to help you out, but by the sounds of things the centre panel that geoff has given you is not appropriate for what you are needing it for.
justin
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 04:16
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juzzo your a dickhead, if u read my post properly it says that the three guages "water temp" "oil press" and "volts" are sport comp. Not the Tacho. The picture u sent to me was the black faced with "autoguage" writting on it. And i said yes thats the one. Not my problem if u fucked up and sent me the wrong picture.
Anyway, how do i post pics here so i can show u guys what the fuck i'm talking about?
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 04:40
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Fark i totally never noticed that it said autometer at the bottom, the wriiting looks so similar at glance with the autoguage. Why didn't u say something before? i honestly didn't know u could get different styles of the black face. i thought it was just black and silver. Well send it back to me in the same condition i sent it to u and i'll reimburse u. That was an honest mistake. And i'll accept that.
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Thu, 14 August 2003 04:51
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of course i would, i'm not a scumbag cunt like geoff. But you would have to in someway prove to me that its in the same condition. COD wont cut it for me anymore. I've had my bad experience and i wont be having another.
Can someone tell me how to post pics?
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:00
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teach me a lesson? there are no lessons here that i need to be taught mate. i was honest, accepted my mistake and i offered u something not alot of people would. Now if u want to carry on about it u can stick my offer.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:01
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Fight Fight Fight!!!
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:03
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A long distance relationship don't work 
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this is much deeper than just a taillight problem
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:05
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i think you are missing what im saying, im not going to fuck with your stuff, so just trust me and let me send it to you cod, and that way its gaurennteed that i will see my money again.
thanks for the chants DAVO
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:06
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| hotrolla wrote on Thu, 14 August 2003 15:03 |
A long distance relationship don't work
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i think we have just proven that 
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:07
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Its not the way to talk to someone who is willing to do something nice for you after all that has been said justin. U just blew it dude. maybe its u that needs to learn the lesson.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:08
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How much did you sell the tacho for King 22?
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:10
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me willing to do this for u should be guarantee enough that u would have gotten your money. How many people would even bother offering u this. they would just say stiff shit. and u know it.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:12
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200 bucks. And there is nothing wrong with it. i wouldn't be complaining. its just not "top of the range".
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:15
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what you are saying is not making any sence, your saying that im talking to you all wrong, but all i said is that i want to send the stuff back to you cod, only casue i want to make sure that i get my money back, not just so that i can damage it and you will still have to pay, im just trying to tell you how decent im trying to be about this and all you wanna do is get up me and tell me im a dickhead, when in the first place you were the one that was incorrect about what you selling
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:18
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| KING_22 wrote on Thu, 14 August 2003 15:12 |
200 bucks. And there is nothing wrong with it. i wouldn't be complaining. its just not "top of the range".
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just cause there is nothing wrong with it, does not mean that its what i wanted or was expecting, its ok for you to say "i wouldnt be complaining" your not the one that put up $200 bucks for something that wasnt correct!
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keep your pants
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:21
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| KING_22 wrote on Thu, 14 August 2003 15:10 |
me willing to do this for u should be guarantee enough that u would have gotten your money. How many people would even bother offering u this. they would just say stiff shit. and u know it.
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i dont know you and you dont know me, so im just protecting my interests
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:30
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| juzzo84 wrote on Thu, 14 August 2003 14:56 |
that pic that i took of the tacho was only taken about half an hour or so ago, have a look at the time on the pic, i only went and took a pic to prove that was incorrect, i will take some more pics if you need proof, but i will only send it cod for the safety of my finances. im not going to damage the goods, just to teach you a lesson, im above that!!!
justin
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u forgot about the "teaching u a lesson" bit dude. Your not angel.
Goodnight Australia.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 05:35
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you made out like you dont trust me to send it to you in good working order cause you said that you didnt want me to send it cod, so that you could see it before you pay for it.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 06:22
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You two are pathetic. All this over a tacho and some tail lights?
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Thu, 14 August 2003 06:32
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Look dudes if you buy something or do something you have to reap the consequenses of your actions.
look at it this way if your doing the deed with a chick and half way threw she rips a fanny fart you cant say hold on i want a refund you didnt tell me you where going to rip a suction cup........ (a very funny way of looking at it)
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Thu, 14 August 2003 07:09
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a very warped way of lookin at it i guess
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Thu, 14 August 2003 07:30
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consumption junction will do that to ya
its one of those why did i click that  
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Thu, 14 August 2003 12:10
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I'm not swathing into this argument, but on the how to post pics front. You need to host them somewhere, eg You usually get about 10MB with your ISP(geocities wont let you host & link). Then click the little box aboove this text box which has a picture in it(its in the line eith bold, italics etc...) when you have your mouse over it it says "Java_Image_Insert"
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 15:01
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| juzzo84 wrote on Thu, 14 August 2003 14:56 |
i will take some more pics if you need proof, but i will only send it cod for the safety of my finances. im not going to damage the goods just to teach you a lesson, im above that!!!
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WOW, and i thought the Torque thread was bitchy heh heh
man, re-read the above quote. he's not going to damage the goods to teach you a lesson. ie, you get your shit back in same condition.
hmmmmm from http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=17123&rid=1194&S=0b754a9ac62a47d681c01e0 ff5640d81&pl_view=&start=0#msg_139195
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I have four S/H Autometer guages up for sale.
5" Monster Tacho(10k revs)with or without shift lite with mounting bracket.
they are sport comp series
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juzzos new pic looks like part no. "233904" (autogage series). the old pic looks like part number "3906" (procomp series) (from http://www.autometer.com/hp/)
both of you send the shit back, get ya money back and then never speak of this again 
seriously, it shouldn't be that big of a deal...
btw, what does "Geoff" say about your lights 22?
Cya, Stewart
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 18:01
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So one guy took the word of a another guy for the tail lights and bought them without seeing for himself they would fit?
wheres the logic..oh what there is none.
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 20:57
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| sleeka73 wrote on Thu, 14 August 2003 18:41 |
in my way of seeing this, king22 U ARE A COCK, you blow ya load over buying some flat lights you dont like , where as you sold justin the wrong tacho and expect him to take it nicely just so he can get a refund. and u think everyone else is a scumbag exept for u?
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sleeka 73, thanks for your support, it good to know that other people can see it from my point of view.
thanks again
justin
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 21:03
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| oldcorollas wrote on Fri, 15 August 2003 01:01 |
| juzzo84 wrote on Thu, 14 August 2003 14:56 |
i will take some more pics if you need proof, but i will only send it cod for the safety of my finances. im not going to damage the goods just to teach you a lesson, im above that!!!
justin
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WOW, and i thought the Torque thread was bitchy heh heh
man, re-read the above quote. he's not going to damage the goods to teach you a lesson. ie, you get your shit back in same condition.
hmmmmm from http://forums.toymods.org.au/index.php?t=msg&t h=17123&rid=1194&S=0b754a9ac62a47d681c01e0 ff5640d81&pl_view=&start=0#msg_139195
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I have four S/H Autometer guages up for sale.
5" Monster Tacho(10k revs)with or without shift lite with mounting bracket.
they are sport comp series
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juzzos new pic looks like part no. "233904" (autogage series). the old pic looks like part number "3906" (procomp series) (from http://www.autometer.com/hp/)
both of you send the shit back, get ya money back and then never speak of this again
seriously, it shouldn't be that big of a deal...
btw, what does "Geoff" say about your lights 22?
Cya, Stewart
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heya there stewart, thanks for rustling up those part numbers,its just good to know that you understand what i am typing because it must be coming out as windings at king22's end
thanks
justin
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Thu, 14 August 2003 21:06
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| Mazda626 wrote on Fri, 15 August 2003 04:01 |
So one guy took the word of a another guy for the tail lights and bought them without seeing for himself they would fit?
wheres the logic..oh what there is none.
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yes that is very true, but if geoff had of sold him the correct parts, then they would fit no worries as do my tailights pictured above!
justin
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Fri, 15 August 2003 07:49
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| Pumpkin wrote on Fri, 15 August 2003 08:11 |
Ok you two... knock it off...
Juzzo84... Do not throw fuel into the fire. Just because the tacho was not what you expected doesn't mean you can turn and use that against king22 because he is upset with you.
King22... I'm sure the forum can help you with the modifications needed to make the flat lights fit. I don't know the story around the tacho so, I cant fully respond or comment to this.
Juzzo84.. Please calm down.. If the tacho was not what you were expecting, it should has been resolved when you bought it.. not used as ammunition the next time King22 is angry at you.
If the personal attacks dont stop you will be given a warning.
This can be resolved as adults.
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heya joe, im not trying to stir up heat as much as it may look, its just that george(king22) is trying to tell me how bad a person i am or at least make me out to be a bad person all im trying to do is prove that he is not perfect either, and i was not saving it to use as ammo against him, this tacho incident has only just happend a week or so ago. sorry for my hot actions, im just not impressed by being wronly accusses, or told bto others that you should watch out when delling with me, not to mention the fact that i could have started a great thread about king22 and my tacho, but i managed to control myself, so this is where i have cut loose and gave it full stick!!
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Fri, 15 August 2003 11:27
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Well if someone sold me didgy parts id flame the crap out of them
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Re: Flat TA22 Tailights Nightmare
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Fri, 15 August 2003 11:44
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George,
The flat lights will go into the later model TA22's if you don't mind enlarging the taillight hole. The biggest issue is actually making the new hole water tight as the flat taillight rubber seal is very different and mounting the metal centre part can be a PITA. It can be done tho. (My 73 model has them)
DO they fit ? No !. Can they be made fit ? Yes.
If I was you would I be pissed ?. Yeah I would but I'd be pissed if I was Juzzo too. I'm sure once the smoke clears you two will sort this all out and I am sure Juzzo won't mind talking to Geoff about him making amends.
As a side note how much did you pay for the lights ?
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Fri, 15 August 2003 14:34
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| Mazda626 wrote on Fri, 15 August 2003 21:27 |
Well if someone sold me didgy parts id flame the crap out of them
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let the buyer beware
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continue your 'negotiations' in private as these forums are not the appropriate place
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