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Tue, 09 July 2002 08:56
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I dunno if other sprinter owners out there feel this way but i am getting pissed off with all these people wanting a Sprinter "to drift" and be "full sick" and "cool" as such.
This can even be seen by some of the posts on these forums by peoples.
Its getting worse, and people want a Sprinter for the new found reputation, not for what the car is. No one wanted one when they were not cool. People called my car an ugly piece of shit when i got it. Why are you buying that slow car (when i sold my ae82 twincam for the sprinter) they said.
I bought my car 3 years ago, and at least in perth, there was 3/5th's of nothing in terms of modded Sprinters over here. I know some people could term me as a newbie, those who have owned one for 10 years or so but, most people had never heard of them when i got mine. Now they are cool and every 17 year old year 12 student wants one so he can wear his hat backwards, wear his baggy pants, hang at the mall and be full sick and drift like Initial D. This "drift" would probably consist of dropping the clutch off the line and getting the rear to squirm around a bit and then shout "DRIFT!!!"
Sorry for the rant and muddled up sentances that probably do not make sense, but i had to tell someone!
I spose i am lucky enough to be a member of an AE86 club here in perth that shares the same sentiments.....
Cheers
Mike
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Tue, 09 July 2002 09:15
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theres always gonna be dickheads out there
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Tue, 09 July 2002 10:24
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I guess thats sorta like how what was just sliding/throwing the car into the corner (hehehe Im starting to feel old now) has suddenly taken a fashionable hip name like "drifting" and how anybody who "thinks" they can drive fast latest favorite word and when mentioned at least twice in a sentence makes them sound cool 
oh and its 12 years and 2 Levins and 2 sprinters later 
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Tue, 09 July 2002 12:01
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Oh Yeah!! Mike.
Thought I was the only one starting to think this way!!
Originally got into the Sprinter because it was the best designed and cheapest rear wheel drive car under 1000Kg that you could bolt horsepower in easily. Had a great time being bagged by various road warriors for driving such a machine, until they saw the lap times and I left them at the lights.
The last couple of years copped more hassle from young blokes blabbing on about all the drifting crap!
Read some tosser magazine(Zoom)justifying drifting as requiring the same skill as competitiion driving on tarmac or dirt!
Obviously one of the hat backwards brigade.
I fear what will happen is more of the hat heads will get Sprinters, pull off the "legendary" drifting crap around the suburbs and the coppers will tar ALL Sprinter drivers with the same brush. It's happened before with various cars.
Things have gone one step further already, read some posts about putting blow off valves on 4agz's just to get the PSSSSHHHHHTTTT!!!
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Tue, 09 July 2002 12:34
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Yep.... same exactly! And it get worse when people ask when they see the car, " oh, so you drift do you?" or, "You're a drifter, aren't you?".... 
Like most people's reaction to the Sprinter is that its a drift machine, even though its been around for umpteen years and before InitialD appeared, no-one gave a crap....
Well, Tim (Blown86), you predicted the future.... one of the boys got caught drifting in a deserted car park, and lost his licence... very bad for publicity... Sometimes I wish that ppl would save that sort of madness for the track...!!
Hope that one day a movie would come out with a Datto 120Y as a drift-pig machine.....  Then I'll buy one!!
Cheers!!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Tue, 09 July 2002 12:51
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I get the same thing all the time....
Funny thing on the way back from the dyno day there was a holden capela or something like that with 3 young guys in it and some kind of big ute with 2 young guys in it.
The two of them had a go at some lights with me playing a bit too. Next set of lights I line up against the ute and the guy sticks his head out the window and goes "u drift it much?". I just shook my head as to say your a wanker mate then smoked him off the lights hehe
A few sets of lights down the road at a tricky intersection the ute stoped sudenly for a car turning right and the young guys in the holden ran up the back of him hehe
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Tasmania
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Tue, 09 July 2002 12:55
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Don't fear. Police will never catch onto the AE86 thing, becasue there are not enough of them in existance, and they look too much like FWD corollas and old Excels and stuff. Here in Hobart, the humble AE86 is not, and never will be recognised. Mainly because there are only about 10 AE86's in Hobart, and probably only one of the owners knows what they are driving. (One of them is modifyed for a wheelchair user, thats as far as mods go).
Maybe the distiction between drift and power oversteer is that with drift you get into a controlable slide before the corner, and power all the way through. Puting your foot down once already at the apex and getting oversteer is a little different.
Also you don't need a AE86 for drift.
I wouldn't worry about some guy getting busted for wheelspin in a carpark. If I left all my driving till when I got to the track, my skills would be crap.
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Montrose, VIC
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Tue, 09 July 2002 23:47
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Ahhhhh yeah... My mother once said if yer cant say nothing nice, dont say nothing at all - so i'll contain myself 
I do agree though somewhat. One (of many!) reasons I don't wanna own a VL is the image problem they've got - likewise hondas, excels, lancer/mirage, anything like that... I first got interested in getting an ae86 several years ago, and eventually got one. However, since then I seem to have all the usual 'questions', like:
'Awwww, you drift it man? Yeah I drift mine full sick, like it was making tyre noise around the roundabout the other night!'
'My mates got one, and he got initial D sticker... Yeah he got fawww ayyy geeee toooo...'
'Is that a cordia?'
'(the one that really shows lack of noggin filling once they learn mines got a turbo) Hawwww, how much booooscht?' (as if boost somehow directly equals power - if it did I'd have 60psi!)
In my view, losing a car around a roundabout in the wet is NOT 'drifting' - not to say I haven't done it before, but I dont go round yell 'HAAWWWW! ME VERY GOOD! ME DRIFT! ME INITIAL D!'
Fact is, getting a car with 165 tyres and open diff to make a bit of tyre noise doesn't take too much skill...
Then again, each to their own. Some like cut springs. Some like colourful clothes that make them look like a dish cleaning accesory. Some like stick on checkerplate and clear tail lights, alone with hubcaps that try to look like 'cyclone' mags. My advice is to drive past and laugh at these people, don't give the real tools the one thing they need to survive - attention! - and enjoy working on and driving your car. And to that guy who asked me the other night - once again, no, that 'blow off valve' that you shoved on your GZE can NOT work no matter how much you twist the adjuster 
One other thing - I'm staying in Sydney for a few days at Baulkham Hills, the other day I wandered into castle towers shopping mall, and was more than highly amused when I found the 'autojoy' shop...
Sorry about the whinge boys and girls! I'll be in the garage, getting nice and dirty 
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Wed, 10 July 2002 00:44
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Jonny2TG,
the reason that Zack made mention of a guy getting caught in the car park is that he is a member of out club, well i am pretty sure of this.
I used to go ou ton drift nights, but this was long ago. I realise that spending 50 bucks for a track day, and having access to a propper track increases your skill 10 times faster than on the road, u dont rip wheels off and u cannot get caught!
Cheers
Mike
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Wed, 10 July 2002 01:45
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ive nearly caught up to you Michael
5 years, 2 sprinters, 1 Trueno
I hate that steriotype i have an AE86 therefore must drift and look like initial D ??
It could be worse though, some guy thought my car was a T-18 the other day 
Ben
AE86 Trueno 4AGE
THE ONLY REAL DRIFT IS A SCANDINAVIAN FLICK !!!!!
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Wed, 10 July 2002 03:40
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that initial D thing is quite an influence on these Sprinters.
I used to own a Nissan EXA, which was popular for the great handling, lowered & sway bars & wide tyres etc. until I got the Sprinter, in stock form & height, it can enter & exit corners way faster than the EXA in stock form, but I never knew there was such a small & light weight RWD car (900kg? The EXA was 1100kg!) until my sister watched the cartoon, I only saw a few episode, and I thought it was a Honda Accord at first (they looked so similar..  ) Coz they didn't mention what car it was in the cartoon when I watched it, even after I found out the car was called AE86, I didn't know it was available in Australia, I forgot how I finally found out, but when I sold my Sprinter, 9 out of 10 people that came was an asian! That tells you how "tofu" effected everyone's view, I always have the word "tofu" mentioned to me all the time, which can be annoying sometimes..
But one great advantage about initial D is, all the companies started producing parts again for AE86 and 4age all of a sudden! 
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Eskilstuna, Sweden
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Thu, 11 July 2002 13:43
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Can I interets you guys in nice big Vinyl stickers for your rear window:
How does "Drift King" or "Initial D" sound......nice I'm going to buy a leyland P76 so that when they are cool again I will have been into it before it was cool!
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Thu, 11 July 2002 14:48
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At lest you don't get old people telling you about their brother, cousin, auntie, best friend, girlfriend who use to own a mini. Everyone seemed to own a cooper s and it was alwasy the fastest around. Crazy old me are the best they tell you about when they first came out etc etc etc
Brad
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Thu, 11 July 2002 15:23
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hey i reckon u should go easy on ppl who ask if u drift..
everyone knows sprinter's are good for drifting..y not ask?
if i ask..it's because i ask any person with a light rwd car aka silvias, ae86's, rx7's ..
i do hate seeing some 4ac sprinter with big chromies and a loud exhaust which would probably just make it slower
i did used to have chopped springs  ..but those were from the previous owner which i did not know they were chopped until i put them in
but now i have a whole new suspension it rocks ..but doesn't look as good
personally, i did find out about sprinters thru inital D, but i didn't get that interested in them until i did a lil research..light, rwd, and cheap 'starting' price.. it was the cheapest decent looking rwd for me at the time
just coz u know more than some ppl, doesn't give u the right to tell them they r just some mario drift wannabe king..let them learn.. open there eyes for them that it's not like initial D
or just tell them your 4agte sprinter only has a 4ac with a fake blow off valve if u have [a real] one
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Thu, 11 July 2002 16:32
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before the Sprinter, I was going to get a 180sx, used to love that car SR20DET, very appealing, but after Initial D, the price for a 180sx NEVER went down, it may have even went up, average $20,000 now I think! 1-2 years ago, twice I saw a slight damaged 180sx for $5000 and $6000, but after initial D, those price were never repeated, all RWD cars actually increased in value! But then I saw the Sprinter, 25% light, for under $3,000, light weight RWD, economy, can't believe it.. and people that doesn't know the car, thinks my car was made in the 90s! Honestly, what other 83-85 car looks as nice as a Sprinter anyway, fairly rounded edges from front to back, if you had good average paint on the car, it won't look like it's made in the early 80s..
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Thu, 11 July 2002 20:00
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Never seen this Initial D show but I get the drift (hah).
As with Initial D, the drifting thing most dudes are carrying on about is fantasy.
Wheel spinning around a car park or on the road at 60km/hr does not require any skill and is toss.
If one of these dudes that hassles me shows up with a 600hp Sprinter and give me a drift demo at 200km/hr I'll give him a little respect!
Anyone that actually is involved with motorsport will describe a drift as driving a car at the limits of it's grip with all four wheels sliding. The car can't go any faster and is balanced on the fine line between staying on the track and sliding off.
The perfect drift is all four wheels sliding the same amount with the steering wheel pointing straight ahead whilst cornering.
What spins me out is, to set up a car properly for the tail out wheel spinning thing, you actually destroy the normal handling traits of a car. Really stiff rear springs, lots of rear brake bias etc.
What's the point of doing this to a Sprinter and destroying the inherent balance a Sprinter has?
Why not buy a XB ute with a 351 and a 9 inch? A mate and I used to cut up in one of those the same way, but we knew we were being dickheads!
If people want to go for the look, good luck to them.
If people reckon that this wheel spinning tail out style drifting thing at 60km/hr has some value other than toss, they're joking.
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Fri, 12 July 2002 02:01
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Okay, I'll bite...
I bought my Sprinter 2 1/2 years ago. At the time I was using my RX2 rally car as a road car, but had a few $$$ to rub together to get something. I wanted something RWD and small. Simple as that. I had been through various old Mazda 1300's, a Mk 2 Escort, and a few FWD's (*shudder*), but I wanted something nice. The Sprinter popped up (literally), and I took the opportunity. Why?
When they first came out, they were used in rallying. And I am a Rally Nut(TM). I remember Wayne Bell screaming through the forests, running against and beating much more powerful cars. This was in the twilight of the Group G days (ask your father!!), so there was some fairly powerful cars about. Over in the land of the long time between showers (England), in the early days of Group A only, Sprinters used to comepete successfully up to national level, against Sierras, 323's, etc.
So they have motorsport pedigree.
Like this...
http://www.vicrally.com.au/multimedia/rogers.wmv
I hate 'drift'... it's the rice-boy revenge over RWD cars... and it will get people injured and cars killed. What can I do? Nothing. Go drift. See if I care. But hit me or someone I care about doing your stupidity (drift on public roads is akin to street racing in my book) and look out!
That's probably why I don't cruise very much. I don't feel the need to get 20 cars together and see who can get the most out of control whilst doing the least amount of damage.
Better go take a Bex and have a lie down now...
Alex
Old enough to be my rally car's brother...
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Sat, 13 July 2002 03:16
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Goodness, looks like the can openers been out and the worms are starting to crawl:D
As far as I see it, NEARLY everything has a place and a purpose. If someone wants to equip an ae86 (or 180sx, or whatever the hell!) with some reasonable horsepower and dental-plan-voiding suspension and go throw the car all over the TRACK, then I'd love to have a go If someone wants to go into the forest with their rally car, by all means invite me (please??)
Playing with cars is something I love, as is driving them. However, the one thing I disagree with is playing with cars in a way that makes them less safe. Things like cutting/throwing away springs, improper wheel spacers, those that take the stickers to extremes of blocking all the windows, and covering it with enough disco lights to rival an airstrip are reall only at home on show cars at auto salon or something similiar...
I bought my ae86 because I'd killed my other car, and wanted to get mobile again, saw one going cheap, and had always kinda wanted one anyway. I enjoy working on it and driving it, and even poking a bit of fun at commodores every now and then with it... If someone doesn't like my car, rather than throw some kind of tantrum (as has been witnessed a few times at traffic lights etc.!), go and build a better one.
Just remember you are not the ultimate 'drift' expert cos you got your 120y slightly sideways when it was raining! (nah I aint bagging 120s either - there are some nicely done ones out there)
Till next time, have fun and stay alive! 
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Sat, 13 July 2002 23:11
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Well, dayum..
hm, I have a sprinter.
I got it a few months ago.
I'm a P plater!
I have a head unit and speakers.
I wear a pizza hut hat often while driving.
I like to push my car and myself.
I am even thinking of getting stickers on my doors! (if i get a trd lsd, then a trd sticker etc.)Eve
I guess i'm the "hat" person? oh well. I love my car, and I couldn't care less about what you guys say... You're acting as if you're labeling all new sprinter owners as these "hat" people and I feel rather offended.
I got the car for a few reasons, I saw a few at a car cruise/show in 2001. I fell in LOVE with the look. (I was going to get a Cordia.. or Starion..) I also wanted a car I could learn to drive well in, and I think the sprinter is a good choice, also I think the Cosworth BDA motor is one of the best engines designed, awesome for its time. (same goes with the 4age).
Even with the stock 19 year old suspension my car handles ok, that was a major factor in getting the car.
About drift, have you guys seen drift? were you not impressed with the control you need to "drift" a car?
Also, a few of your signitures...
"THE ONLY REAL DRIFT IS A SCANDINAVIAN FLICK !!!!!"
"Matt
Dorifuto Hachi Roku "
Someone also mentioned people blabbin on about their 4ages? I get asked a lot "4ac?" and I say "No, 4age" I guess I'm one of those blabbin d'heads too.
It just seems to me that you guys are worried.. that other people are taking interest in the sprinters.. and you don't want people in on your little elitest group.. I could be wrong tho..
Am kinda offended by some of the things some of you had to say..
You talk about drivin dangerously on the streets and such, and then you talk about drag racing on the streets, and laughing about people crashing.. That makes me sick.
Oh, also, I even crashed my car the other night, wasn't my fault tho, but I'm sure a few of you will find that funny Right Ribbo?
If someone asks me "hey so do you drift?" I say "No, I'm not quite that good.." I don't think that's being hassled either.
Another thing you can flame me about, is I organised a sprinter cruise down here in melbourne, I think it was the first one of it's time down ere.. 10 or so ae86s.. (Thanks heaps to LiL_MiC and Steeeeevie! and everyone else who showed up by the way.).
Grant.
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Sat, 13 July 2002 23:54
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Nice post fooz,
This thread is just starting to get interesting. I myself have had my sprinter for about 5 years and liked them a great deal before that (The only other car I have had was a TA22, I'm not a Toyota nut it just looks that way).
If someone asks me if I drift I also say no. Not that I don't enjoy the art, my computer has many little AE86 Drift mpeg's. However I don't like how the car must be set-up to drift properly, too much of a compromise away from a good circuit/street set-up.
Probably the best thing about the renewed interest in AE86s is the bits and pieces you can get for them. Have a browse in a CUSCO catalogue and tell me how many other early 1980s cars you see in there getting parts made specifically for them.
My previous post was a somewhat subtle attempt to take the piss out of those who are sooking about the new pwople getting interested in sprinters and asking them if they drift, it must be a real chore to say "no". Well buy yourself a nice white Hyundai Excel, sell the sprinter and you will never be asked about drifting again.
Flame on!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Sun, 14 July 2002 04:55
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Yes I shouldn't of laughed about the crash, I didn't at the time, it was just it fit into the thread rather nicly.
personally I love watching crazy rwd's drift around I got many mpg's, hint the tag. But there is a time and place for everything.
Im not saying on a wet night on some deserted street I might not flick the back out for a bit of experience (fun), unlike dickheads who do it while people are arround to show off.
I can't afford to get to a track as im putting that money into the car to get it track ready and if I didn't have a little experince getting sideways than im sure I would of crashed already, ive had a few incidences where my car has lost it in the wet when I was not going fast or trying anything just hit a few bumps and she swings around, but was able to correct it.
I think what sprinter people are getting annoyed at is that everyone that sees the car automattically thinks ahh he is a try hard drift king, rather than the superb handling the car has.
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Sun, 14 July 2002 06:34
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Hey guys, about my previous post, I am not against anyone who owns a sprinter or even 'hat' drivers... As Ribbo has mentioned, its the image that people automatically acquire when they own a sprinter....drifter, dorifto...etc. I am not against drifting or a bit of harmless sideways action, but I am very against doing it on public roads when there are people around, endangering others.
Cheers
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Sun, 14 July 2002 11:31
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i am a proud newcomer to the sprinter brigade, im only 18, my car has camber adjusters, i think drift is cool, do i fit into this category? buuuut, in my defence i have NEVER attempted drift, i have mearly flicked the tail out LEAVING corners while noone was around so it doesnt count. besides it was a VL gimme a break. i too see the badside about initial d and the like, but think of the good things it has done like availabilty of aftermarket accesories and the like. its also raised your resale value for when you wanna sell it
i guess this is a bad time to mention the plates i ordered for my car? i was gonna get AE.0086 but i didnt ohwell.
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Sun, 14 July 2002 13:34
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That's it!! I've gone to the dark side.
Bought a totally sic Datto 120Y drift machine with a competely rad and sic chrome exhaust tip. Dude at Kmart told me it'll give me 100 hp more!! Beauty cause it's fat and sic (6").
Got the budget for the NISMO, Blitz, HKS, KONI stickers 'cause the Datto already has the sic orange paint ORIGINAL!! Suck it rusty Sprinter owners!!!!!
Me mate with an even sic'er Lada Niki drift machine (totally rocks dudes AND it's SIC!!!) gave me his old retreads. WAY COOL look just like Formula 1 tyres!!!!!!!! Just the 4 big grooves round the middle. (SIC!)
Ordered the number plate "DATS-SIC" so watch out you old fart Sprinter drivers!! Cummin at YA!!!!! Rooly SIC'LY!!!
Got good springs to sell - only 500 000 km use, any offers???
Where do you get the SIC, MEGA, RULING KFC hats??? (Need a special one 'cause I've got a funny shaped head).
Which Mall should I hang around???
Where do you get 'P' plates with those totally sic, rad, blue neon lights???
Can anyone tell me how to drive sideways SIIIICLYYYYY!!! Done it in COLES (dose shopping trollies are HUGELY SIC!!!!).
Can't wait for the Melbourne Grand Prix - teach those fags like Schumacher (NOT SIC) how to drive, losers even use traction control!!!(ROOLY NOT SIC). Wear their hats to the front (ROOLY ROOLY NOT SIC, or anything). Why do they get paid so much money????
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Sun, 14 July 2002 14:00
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Ahhh well... may these worms keep crawling!
One of the reasons I don't have custom plates, stickers and disco lights on my car is so that I can avoid attention from a certain mobile disco. Also the fact I think they look rediculous, but hey if someone else wants that stuff, let 'em have it.
We all (well, most of us anyway!) learn from our little ballsups. This starts from a very young age - getting told not to put ones fingers in the toaster will never do it, but except for the REALLY daft amongst us, do it once and you don't do it again! (speaking from experience as a youngster here ) The same goes with cars. The greatest way to learn what to do and what NOT to do in a car is to, er, do it and see what happens. Sure, your mother might have told you to 'never do that slippy thing around that corner love', but did that stop you? quite likely not... But when you try it on your own, spin the car 540 degrees and stop a library card thickness from a powerpole,
one says to oneself 'oooh, might try that a bit different next time' Moral of the story? (I love this bit!) - Think about what COULD happen before you do anything - on a racetrack theres sandtraps, safety crew, etc., on the street theres pedestrians, kiddies, other cars and powerpoles. So have fun, but BE CAREFUL!
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Sun, 14 July 2002 15:08
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is it just me or is this gettin really off topic?
Isn't this about how you guys don't like younger drivers taking an interest in sprinters because of initial d and the drifting factor?
I recall watching a drift video from japan, about 15 cars I think, majority of them were the ae86s.. they all got slamed by the s13s.. (the video was made around the time the s13 were somewhat new I think).
So don't soley asociate drifting+ae86's with initial d. Cos that just simply aint true.
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Sun, 14 July 2002 16:50
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just thought i'd add my 2cents worth.
I am 17 and currently own a TA22. If it were'nt for my sudden change to the 'old-school-rotor-style' a few years back, i would most certainly own an AE86 now. I have always loved them since i was very young and although i am a big fan of drift, proper drift like the JMS drift kings, not stock gemini's with lockers (CIG welded diffs for those who have been around slightly longer), i had an interest in the Sprinters long before drifting was made popular. My friend had one with a 4AGZE which i thought was a real neat thing at the time. I had almost certainly made up my mind that i wanted one exactly like his but to be left as a sleeper on the outside. I started talking to others who had similar sprinters. However after starting high school, meeting new people and gaining new friends, my priorities began to change. Although my love for the Sprinter will never be destroyed, it only took me around 6 months from absolutely hating rotaries and everything about them, to becoming one of the biggest rotor heads around. Some may say i have no morals and just go with the flow, however i feel that my previous hate for anything that goes Brap Brap Brap (read : rotaries) was just a result of my fathers strong influence. He was all about good old old-school cars, he owns the very first PRB clubman ever built. (some may know what a PRB is, 4 those who don't, it's an Australian made replica of the lotus super seven, similar to other inferior  brands such as Frazers, Caterhams, Westfields etc.) Anyway, dad's PRB has a cross flow escort 1600 bored out to 1760cc with twin 45mm webbers, lumpy cam the lot, cosworth stuff, and he used to, and still does, race against the likes of bridge ported RX3's and stuff like that. I think that really the only reason he dislikes rotors is due to their noise (You either love it or hate it) and the lasting impression most people have of their early reliability problems. anyway, back on track, i've swapped over to the port-jobbed rotary scene, buying my Celica (have loved the TA22 almost as long as the AE86) and hopefully dropping my 13B J-port in soon. Yes my car is the Big wheeled', loud subb'd, bright candy apple green painted', old-school meets new school rotary thing that is becoming so popular these days. However, besides my current interest and taste in vehicles, i still have time and respect for a wide and diverse range of vehicles rangeing from old, like my dads PRB, to new, S6 RX7's with airbrushing and Auto salon style bodykits. To even extreame like the crazy american 'Lowrider' '64 Impala's with $20,000 hydraulics. Now when i see one of these other 'styles' of vehicles driving around, i have nothing but respect for their owners for what they have done with their vehicle, and the way in which it was designed to be driven. What i am talking about is i don't go around bagging other peoples 'style' just because it's not me. Whether it goes around corners sideways or conventional, whether it doesn't even go around corners at all, or whether it is just crazy and goes up and down instead of forward (see lowriders) i can see how each individual would get pleasure out of their ride. Same goes for those who HATE Rotaries or HATE V8's or HATE 4cylinders, that's just a load of crap. Anyway, after informing the previous individuals i used to associate with (see AE86 drivers from start of story) about my newfound love of rotaries and the old-school scene, i copped nothing but insults and people bagging my car. "What do you need a stereo for, that's just extra weight" "Why do you need such big wheels on a little car" "Who cares how powerful it is, it sounds like a chicken on steroids" "That white interior is stupid, it'll just get dirty really easy" "Just sell that crap and get a AE86" I copped it from all directions. It just made me think of how single minded and un- accepting people are of things that they wouldn't have built themselves. Just because they don't like it, doesn't mean it's crap. It's different, thats all, not crap. If some of them want to drive around in stock looking cars with quick motors and drive them off their wheels on the track like i once did, then so be it. If some want their car to look good and be noticed, to cruise around slowly and listen to their favourite tunes, then fine. Everybody's different. Just imagine if everybody liked the exact same car, the exact same style, and drove the exact same way. Just imagine how boring this world would be. 
André
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Sun, 14 July 2002 19:14
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Andre, that sounds awesome dude.. do you think people would laugh at the funny soundin 20B sprinter? do you think they'd be laughin as it ripped most cars down the 1/4? hehe...
Idfamily, you're right too! and if anyone calls you a youngester or mocks your car, well, they obviously.. need a reality check, it's a very nice car.
But just for comformation.. I'm wondering.. (to the people who started this post) do you have something against all younger drivers (let's say, below 25) with sprinters? or just the ones with P plates? or.. Just the poeple who first noticed the sprinters because of initial d?
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Mon, 15 July 2002 00:45
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Fooz,
I am under 25. I dont hate younger drivers at all, or 18 year olds that buy them.
I just HATE people that see a ae86 in a drift/initial D video, then ask. "What the hell is that car" and someone says a Sprinter.
They go...sick, gotta get me one of them so i can drift too!. Thats what i hate.
Anyways.. slighty different topic.. Went to a 21st on saturday.. and there was a heap of guys from a carclub there, a club I have not been involved with for a few years. and everyone asks me.. Hows the Sprinter.... do you drift it much.. does it drift well..etc etc" and EVERYONE is talking about how they are wicked drifters and slid ass end out exiting a corner in teh wet last night.
I love drift too. Its an insane exhibition sport that is great to watch. thats the whole point of it. But i actually discovered Drift after I got a Sprinter, and did a bit of reaserch and everytime i typed in ae86 in a search engine.. drift videos popped up
anywyas .. FOoz basically hit the nail on the head. Basically i Hate Sheep, people who do stuff because its "cool" and not because they actually like it. If it was not cool, they would not have any interest in it. Not just sprinters but a lot of things. Its just when it encroaches(sp.?) on your bit of turf, and turns something you have loved for ages, even through ridicule from the people who now own one, into hyped up crap.. its gets a bit hard to digest.
Mike
PS. I did open up a can of worms..hahahaha
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Mon, 15 July 2002 07:06
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ok i am 18 and my uncle found my sprinter for me while i was searching for a twinky, the moment i saw it i fell in love! i had never seen one in the flesh before, just some small dodgy pictures in HPI. the next week that followed i scoured the internet learning all i could about this car, what? what is this? japanese cult icon? ITS MINE! i love japan, and to see how this humble little rocket took the performance car industry by the balls is amazing, i rank the hachi roku up there with the godzilla, to me its my hero, i will never part with my hachi, but if i do, im sure its going to be replaced by another!
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Tue, 16 July 2002 00:32
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This sounds like the Anti-Rice talking 
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Wed, 17 July 2002 14:43
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| idfamily wrote on Mon, 15 July 2002 2:18 AM |
i am a sprinter owner too..
like why every toyota fans hate HONDA's?
HONDA's car is real good
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There is an undeniable high correlation between honda and rice. Simple as that.
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Tue, 06 August 2002 15:36
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seems to me here that some people are getting pissed @ initial D and blaming them for "hyping" the AE86
personally i think initialD is great, a little unbelieveable at times (i mean it IS just an 86) but fun to watch and its got wicked graphics
but just liie others here i am marginalised as being a "rice-boy-drifter". a wanna-be. an undeserving young prat with no taste and a hunger for all things cheap and nasty
i have an 1985 trueno gt apex, and yes it is a zenki panda , yes JUST like the one from initial D,(but with a black bonnet)but ya know what? i dont care what anyone thinks, its my little hachiroku, the little RWD beast that looks like not much, but goes like all f*ck
the reason i bought it was the "compact RWD", plain and simple
1984 supra + celica were just too heavy, and just not a "me" car
and i shopped around and found nothing
and when i couldnt find a cheap sprinter in aus, i decided to import one, now $9000 later i have a race spec trueno with the lot (NA of course) and i coulnt be happier, its even got R.S Wanantabe wheels. personally i think the previous driver was been a japanese guy who was inital d obsessed, becasue its almost an exact replica of the car ('cept the furiwara tofu decals)
but the point is, i bought it for a different reason, the stigma attached to it because of initial d is a GOOD THING, i mean how much more can you find for the 86's now? heaps! and plus it keeps them restored (we all should hope)
and as for drift, its a "craze" at the moment, it will die down soon and if it doesnt, it will prove its worth as a needed and enjoyabe part of driving
hell getting it sideways and being in control is one of the more challenging things you can do in a automobile!
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Wed, 07 August 2002 00:45
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I recently bought my sprinter a couple of weeks ago(thanks Michael  ) because I wanted a lightweight, RWD, good handling, slightly modern, cheap and easy to modify car. 'Drifting' it was not part of the criteria... having said that the drifting I have seen is very impresive and looks like a lot of fun. But thats the stuff in japanese videos and JMS drift expos, I dont want someone to come round a corner sideways and take out my ride and I dont want to wrap it around a telegraph pole. "Drifting" on the street is stupid and the cool factor associated with sprinters and drift is also stupid, I mean my old sigma that was worth about $100 would get more sideways than my sprinter... and that went round corners a hell of a lot slower. My AE86 is an excelent handling car and its going to corner fast and smooth the way it ought to, not slow and sloppy. Real drift, as well as racing should be kept to the race track
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Wed, 07 August 2002 10:16
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i too am an 18yr old male who has a sprinter n i learnt my lesson... my folks bought me the car off my bro in law...n when i first got it i was like wtf is this? After searching the internet etc, i soon found out that what i had was a classic, i japanese icon...part of automobile history!!!!!
now yes, its still in stock form, n yeah id love more power...but i dont need it at the moment, im quite happy sitting at skool wid every1 saying look at Scotts shit car, when in actual fact...they try n drag me in their 1.8Ltr Pulsar q's or their lancers n i kick dere ass n laugh in their face. Then they come for a drive with me n always seem to say, after dissing da ae86 only days b4 continue to say (dis car has some power) and its a 4a-c hahahaha!!!!! little do they know!!!!! wait till i get my celica!!!!
yeah i will have to part with my sprinter, but once i get a job and some money, it wont be long b4 i have another doriftu hachi roku sitting in my driveway!!!!!!!!!
While people do always ask if u drift, just remember...they are only jealous that the dont have a car renowned for it!!!! Just smoke their asses at the lights, or around tight tarred roud or even in the bush and let ur driving abiltiy show them what REAL AE86's are made of!!!!!!!!!!
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Thu, 08 August 2002 06:49
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t_i, you selling your sprinter are you? when are you wanting to do this?
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Fri, 09 August 2002 03:56
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It seems that it is very much a matter of horses for courses...Some people mod their cars to look good (increasingly common these days) others make the car a bit of a sleeper (ie. externally indistinguishable from a standard vehicle, but with far greater performance), still others do a bit of both...
As for me, I'm not a mechanic (at all!) and most of the work that's been done to my Corolla has been done by others...I imagine the same will happen with the Cressida (although I will probably try to at least wire the thing!). My Corolla looks so stock, you would instantly dismiss it on the street (Even has a bit of rust here and there) and I intend to keep it that way, so it doesn't attract unwanted attention...but when push comes to shove...well a nice 100KW 4AGE allows me to nip into those tight spaces.
As for drifting...it's a term I've only heard of in these forums, and mostly from the younger blokes. Initial D? What is that??? (As if I care ) I'd suggest a proper 4-wheel drift would be almost unattainable in street driving; certainly given the skill level of most drivers!
Put simply, I drive my cars to DRIVE them, not to thrash them around public roads putting others and myself at risk. I prefer cars that go well THEN look good. (If I can have both, then great, but you can where the money goes first!)
BTW One nice thing about driving a stock-looking KE is that NO-ONE gives it a second glance, and they certainly never ask if I "drift" it!
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Fri, 09 August 2002 04:19
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good call mate - and also, if you do want to do some "drifting" try to do it in WIDE OPEN SPACES
This was lesson no. 1 for me 
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Fri, 09 August 2002 04:42
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yeah evo, im thinking of seling it... i dont have the time or money to fix it up etc... n it deserves that cos its a great car!!!!!
im going to the gong on sunday prolly so if ne1 wants to take a look at the car i will mostprobably be there. I have pics for others who are interested. Im not selling the car as such, but if u wanna take a look n make an offer, ill certainly consider it
reason for thinkin of selling.... plain and simple really...i want a TA22 or RA23 Celica so i can show da poofs round here what a real car is
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Fri, 16 August 2002 00:30
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I partially agree.
BUT I think most Ae86 owners new or old just have a love for the RWD setup. It just happens to be one of the lighter ones And everyone loves a light car, right?
My 86 has TOYOTA across the bonnet and I've owned it for a while now but I have NEVER been asked/approached or anything even vaguely to do with drift or initialD. In fact it pisses me off because I have alot of difficulty getting action on the street - completely opposite to when I drive the ga61 or ma61.
maybe it's because my 86 isnot a hatch, but I drive alot, I live in perth, and I have no idea what you're talking about@!!
what pisses me off more is every damn silvia and 180 with " DRIFT SPECIAL " stickers in the window.
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Fri, 16 August 2002 06:33
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Haha, HYPOCRITES!!!!!
it works both ways, I bet all of you who bought ae86's before they were mega popular are sooooo pissed off that since the INitial-d thing you can sell a , lets face it,fairly average average 80's rwd 4cylinder for stupid amounts!I mean if you grabbed a datto 1600 and did an engine conversion, all new suspension etc, it'd be just as good as most moded ae86's but it'd be worth like 1500 bucks, not 5000 like a goddamn shitbox converted sprinter...And it'd be just as good (factoring out the age thing)..I'm not paying the money that people want for an ae86 FU(K THAT!!!!! so I'm building an "AE"70 sedan....And I wouldn't mind having a go at this "drift" stuff- on wet nights I go and play around sliding my r31 around, but its hardly the skill level seen on option vids and stuff-I'm not a bad driver, but shit, I don't have that level of skills and I'm not even trying the high speed drift stuff, so I don't bullshit on like I am one. AND, as for all the "drift is just power oversteer" stuff- ever watched a good drifter? like in the option or dorifuto tengoku vids? OMIGOD-AWESOME!!! also, do you hang shit on sprintcar drivers? their cars are setup only to go fast sideways....like to see how most guys here go in one of them......I know I couldn't do it.
I love ae86's but, as if I could ever afford one-mainly Because of the "drift " phenomenon, and the "car mag says this engine conversion costs this much" phenomenon (which has seen 4age rwd engines go from 350 bucks to 1000....).
But why rant when suddenly, your car has a good reputation, and its value has gone thru the roof...considering when it was new it had the crap panned out of it....And the only reason they are rare is because NOBODY WANTED THE FECKING THINGS WHEN THEY WERE NEW!!!!!!
stop whinging.
cheers,
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Fri, 16 August 2002 07:36
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being a rally guy, I've always liked the comment someone said about a drift setup shops, went something like "Great, a shop dedicated to set your car to handle like shit." thats cute.
What was the topic again?
Anyway, as a japanese ae86 guy said to me.
let all people enjoy the 86 together
Cheers
haroldj
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Fri, 16 August 2002 11:32
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Hmmmm, don't really have time to read all of those replies, but I'll just add that I bought my Levin before I'd seen Initial D!
You know, I think it's getting cool to say your not into drift now, making out like you're too cool for all that and that you're a 'real' racer. I've entered my Levin in one drift comp and it was a heap of fun, but I have a lot more fun when I'm racing on a conventional track. Drift should always be seen as a novelty, something to break up the conformity of 'proper' racing.
Anyone who can honestly say they don't like drift just can't do it properly! (Just stiring there!)
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Fri, 11 April 2003 02:57
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I had my first sprinter and was street racing with my mate Roy before i saw initial D.. i liked initial D because i recognise certin links to the Drift king, and the fact that it was a good mix of CGI and standard manga/anime drawing conventions.
however, there are only 3 or so points in Initial D that come close to real drifting.
to reply to the comment "the only real drift is the scandanavian(spellling?) flick, go on kazaa and search for "Drift King video"
you should get a file called something like "super drift techniques explained"... all styles on there are classified as drifting, though most are based on circuits, rather than roads.
real street racing is dangerous, and quite often doesnt involve as much drifting as initial d shows, though it does involve some.
the SF i sone of the primary learned techniques of drifting, however, as the video will show.. there are others, different techniques suit different circumstances.
for example, SF is equally as useful as a power over or shift lock, it really depends on your speed and the turn you have to make.
if you are running a high power car, quite a few turns will make you use accel off techniques to turn th ecorner, to save on your tyres, and give you response on the far side of the corner.
as far as Sprinters go, there is no doubting the fact that they are excellent drift cars, expecially for beginners, however, if you have seen initial d and suddenly want to drift, it is a SERIOUS recommendation that you go and read about real drifting before you try anything, you will find that it isnt as simple as you first thought, any drfiter will tell you that.
Sprinters are nice cars, sporty cars, and are excellent to learn to drift in, but you will have to move on.. they arent supercars, they CANNOT beat a S14 SA20DET-T... unless you are a VERY good driver, and the guy in the S14 is a shit one. and even then..
so give that idea up now.
drift for the skill, not the anime.. anime is a cartoon, not real..
Drift to learn, drive to enjoy. Thats what i believe in.
i raced cars becuse i enjoyed it, i enjoyed pushing my limits, and i wanted to figure out how i could be better at driving with my car. Having said this, i would never practise, or race, where there were other cars present..
neither should you.
As ive said, Sprinters are nice cars, but they aren't the be all and end all of cars, or drifting.
Sorry, had to have my say in this, as much as i like sprinters, i think the anime doenst help them as respected cars and i think that the people who want one because of the anime, so they can be a drift god like Takumi (LOL), have a long way to go before they realise what drifting is about, and that the Sprinter is not going to make you any better, the way you set your car up, and your understanding of driving will.
Sorry its so long winded.
Peace
Katsuchiyo
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Fri, 11 April 2003 05:54
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heh, its always bad to start off on the wrong foot, but here goes
(this is my first post i think, or second i duno)
I opened this account ages ago when i thought i had something decent to contribute, cant remember really. and forgot about it, but even for a month or so before then ive been reading these forums. havent posted because ive never seen much point, I dont own a car, I dont have questions as of yet that cannot be answered by the search function, and that doesnt leave me with much to post about.
but i think this whole initial d doriftu thing is getting way out of hand.
I discovered this site, and the ae86, because of initial d.
I saw the anime, thought "hey thats pretty dam cool... wonder if thats REALISTIC, i doubt it, but MABY just MABY there are people who can pull it off..." so i hunted round on the interweb, found out that people can indeed drift, and stumbled across what apears to be a goldmine of information on toyotas.
for quite a while I have wanted to get a sprinter (yes, because of initial d, shut up and keep reading...) so i did a bit of reading and found out that they are supposidly a good car n all.
unforunatly a little out of my price range, and no, initial d is not helping this at all.
atm i'm saving money, once i have enough saved im gonna look round for a car (enough being around 10 grand, sure i dont NEED 10 to buy a car... thats not the point, i want enough cash to be able to fix the car up if need be, and pay for insurance, i dont wanna buy a car so i can sit it in my driveway, i wanna buy one to drive it)
I do not want a sprinter/trueno anymore, what I want is a supra or an ra65, why? IT LOOKS COOL! for no other reason.
hate me for it if you must, but i wouldnt drive something that I think looks shit.
anyway ive lost my original train of thought now
I like drift, i like it a lot. i like sprinters, but i dont walk up to sprinter owners and go "hey do you drift", i'd aproach them and go "hey thats a nice car you're driving there"
infact the other day on my way to CIT (tafe) I came across 2 sprinters within 500m of eachother (a white one, and a red one, both near reid cit) i look at em go "hey nice car, i like" not "hey nice ae86, but can it drift"
so as you can see, Initial D is not entirly a BAD THING to happen to the world of sprinters.
the only thing bad is SHIT KIDS BEING SHIT.
but they've always been shit, and always will be.
anyway, hope i didnt start anything (not my intention)
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Fri, 11 April 2003 06:09
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LOL.. thats exactly what i said.. just in a different form
shit kids are shit.. good way to put it.
Im prettymuch teh same situ as you are.. i like the Sprinter anyhow though.. i also like the Supra.. RA65, MA61 etc.
but have to agree with you.
Nice post for your first one
Katsuchiyo
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Fri, 11 April 2003 06:25
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i would never practise, or race, where there were other cars present..
neither should you.
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Ummm.....I always thought racing was when there ARE other cars present. I think too many people use the word "racing" out of context. It's fairly simple really, racing is door handle to door handle with other cars on the track.
Cal.
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Fri, 11 April 2003 06:41
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*smashes head against table* im talking about people who AREN'T racing as well.
i would have thought that was pretty obvious.
Peace
Katsuchiyo
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Fri, 11 April 2003 06:48
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So what do you guys think about people who actually drift their ae86s?
I'm not talking on track, I'm talking about late night industrial areas.. are they initial d wannabes?
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nah.. as long as they're doing it properly.. thats the whole difference..
you can drift an 8-6 if you want to.. if you do it properly you arent an Initial D ripoff..
i mean, the Drift King himself was given and drives a custom made (by Toyota themselves) Drift-setup Hachiroku!
so to answer that.. they arent just inital D wannabes, the ones who try to be takumi, only useing powerslides are, the ones who rice their car then spend all their time at the local garage drinking bubble teas are.. serious drifters can drive anything.. a Sprinter is a good choice for a car too.
if you race properly, and you drift using more than powerslides, then you are not a wannabe who saw inital D..
thats what i think... roughly.. i could do more to describe.. but im tired.. and soaked.
Peace
Katsu
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Fri, 11 April 2003 07:55
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i am sort of of two minds on this, when i bought my sprinter a bit over a year ago, i had heard of initial D (still haven't seen an episode) but that was about it. i bought the sprinter because i coulfn't afford a manual turbo silvia, and it was the cheapest, lightest rear wheel drive i could find.
the problem is, as i see it that inexperienced "drifters" will be damiging their AE86s and using up all the parts that the rest of us will need in the future (but then, an experienced driver doesn't have crashes, unless they are way out of his/her control, and then you can go to the best panel shop you can find and get the person who hit you to sign the cheque)
the up side is that if some tool buys one, crashes it and sells it, then there are more parts available for the rest of the people crashing them.
i think that they do make a fine "drift" car, but i would rather mine be a track car any day.
the one thing i don't like is hearing (and it is always in all caps)
I AM 16 AND NEARLY HAVE FINISHED YEAR 11, I LOVE WATCHING INITIAL D AND WANT TO BUY A SPRINTER WHEN I GET MY PS. HOW MUCH WOULD ONE COST WITH A 4AE ENGINE AND CAN I TURBO IT EASILY. BY THE WAY I LOVE WATCHING INITIAL D AND HAVE DRIFGTED B4 IN MY MUMS CAMRY,
etc, etc etc.
i think if i was to choose again, i'd buy a datsun 1600 for a first car, an absolute POS thrash machine, then get a sprinter when i can afford insurance and fixing everything properly the first time, i'm lucky enough to have found a parts car, but parts are not too easy to get.
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Fri, 11 April 2003 08:45
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that bold text above, you didnt happen to copy it from some other messageboard??
this next lot of text IS taken from an initial d board (if the person who wrote it reads this i hope you learn something from toymods... dam kids)
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Age 15 sophmore high school student with a permit baby yeah!! I could already drift in a real car. One night in my neighborhood, I took my dad's car out, the 92 sentra, FF, yeah!!! (Just like Takumi taking his dad car out at night BUT, I didn't get permission to drive his car.) it's stickshift, I tryed to drift & my first time was tight, I got the rear car to swing when I pulled the E-brake quick. I almost got caught that night. I'm good for my age to start drifting. I'm dope! Next summer, I am going to get my "License" Hahaha!!!! I'm so dope for my age.
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they are so similar it scares me.
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May 2002
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Fri, 11 April 2003 09:06
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have u guys even watched initial d?
i think some of u have no idea
how can u say it only power slides when he does heaps of other stuff
and who the hell give a rats arse if ppl want to be like takumi...
good for them i say
you would never pick a sprinter if u wanted to drift anyway
there are much better cars (even toyota) that will be ahellofalot easyer to drift
initial d is cool
copying it is cool to
just know your shite before you do
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February 2003
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Fri, 11 April 2003 11:26
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| EMP-2TG wrote on Fri, 11 April 2003 19:06 |
have u guys even watched initial d?
i think some of u have no idea
how can u say it only power slides when he does heaps of other stuff
and who the hell give a rats arse if ppl want to be like takumi...
good for them i say
you would never pick a sprinter if u wanted to drift anyway
there are much better cars (even toyota) that will be ahellofalot easyer to drift
initial d is cool
copying it is cool to
just know your shite before you do
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1. Initial D is shite
2. its scary that you talk about this 'takumi' as if hes your best friend
3. sprinter are pretty good at drifting
4. copying 'initial D' on the street is not cool
5. you're a fool!
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Carlingford, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Fri, 11 April 2003 14:08
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1. thats your opinion... nothing wrong with that
2. its a damn cartoon but hey
3. spriters? cant drift for shite compaired to alot of other cars
4.i never said the driving style... i ment do your truno up like the 1 in the show
5.suck my dick
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I supported Toymods
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August 2002
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Fri, 11 April 2003 14:24
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come on guys grow up a little..
this is getting childish
inital d is a good cartoon
but its a little unrealistic
lets leave it at that
sprinters were cool before and still are after
lets all have a little toyota love in here eh?
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Perth - Cannington
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December 2002
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Fri, 11 April 2003 16:26
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| EMP-2TG wrote on Fri, 11 April 2003 22:08 |
1. thats your opinion... nothing wrong with that
2. its a damn cartoon but hey
3. spriters? cant drift for shite compaired to alot of other cars
4.i never said the driving style... i ment do your truno up like the 1 in the show
5.suck my dick
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ok.. as i said before..
1. the drift king runs an AE86 and can own cars that *should* be far its superior.
2. initial D doesnt just employ the powerslide ideal, but several other drift techniques as well, as it was insipred on the drift kings example.
3. doing your trueno like the one on the show is fine, just measn you like to have a nice car, if you want to put the kanjii on you can, no problem, just means that you have to expect some prick to make a comment about you being a lame arsewipe who wants to "inital D" drift.
4. i was listening to a couple of the guys from "Dark Street Drift" talking today, and i realised these guys were talking initial d.. they were talking about how low their cars were and how it gave them more drift power, how the camber of the tyres was good drift camber..
however, on inspection of the rear of the car, i foudn they were powersliders, without talking to them, first, the camber on the rear tyres was negative, rather than the fronts being negative, thus decresing drift, and the "lowered height" had made heavy gashes along his body kit, but only at hte back end, meaning the front had no motion, and the fact that his gearchange as he was leaving could have been done better by my grandma didnt help him much.
this is what happens to people who take initial D too far.. they get things mixed up..
i really was going to ask him why he had such a bad setup, but i didnt want to be rude while he was eating, so i left it alone.
seriously.. Initial D is not the be-all and end-all of drifting.
its only the beginning.
BTW: EMP... come on.. #5 was being a little bit childish there.
each to their own opinion, i know where a lot of these guys are coming from, sprinters that get wrecked by initial D kiddies are bad for the rest of us in their own way.
i think ae86 is right.. we need to let it go..
initial d isnt all there is to drifting.. the Sprinter is a great car for drifting, as it shows in Initial D, and that is a reason that some people buy a Sprinter, fine, they have to learn the hard way, but for others, they understand that even though it is a great car, it still cant match up to some of the newer cars out now.. unless they can afford to put a small mortgage behind it
Peace, keep it cool hey?
Katsuchiyo
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Re: RANT: Sprinter owners
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Fri, 11 April 2003 23:06
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haha yeah it was
sorry man
just get sick of hearing initial d this and that
i think it good ppl go out and give it a shot if they want to
just know your shite first thats all
as in know what drift is
know about setup etc
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