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vin91
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icon5.gif  Cooling system Mods Fri, 29 August 2003 12:38 Go to next message
Does anyone Know how to fit an Electric fan to a stock TA22 Celica.

The Pulley neck is to long to allow the fan to be fitted engine side any solutions?

different water pump?

Radiator repositioning
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TA22-3SGTE
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Re: Cooling system Mods Fri, 29 August 2003 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you are fitting it because of overheating problems you will be worse off , the standard fan will cool a lot better than an electric fan .

Trevor
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shinybluesteel
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Re: Cooling system Mods Fri, 29 August 2003 14:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
try mounting the fan on the other side of the front brasket (although id say this might be hard on your particular car)

why wont it fit? different engine? different radiator?

electric fans dont work as good as engine driven ones, but they can lower your parasitic drag, and if the engine doesnt overheat, they should work fine.

now you can start the argument of whether it is better to have the thermo fan "blow" or "suck"
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vin91
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Re: Cooling system Mods Fri, 29 August 2003 23:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Not Cooling problems, first step in more horsepower and fuel economy
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Re: Cooling system Mods Sat, 30 August 2003 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A Thermo fan "should" cool better then a engine driven one due to the fact the only time a fan is required to move air is when the car is stoped or at low speed and thus the engine is at low speed so is the fan IE not moving as much as an electric fan fully on no matter what engine speed.

what kind of fan are you trying to fit on it that wont clear the engine??

Allan
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vin91
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Re: Cooling system Mods Sat, 30 August 2003 05:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The fan I am fitting is only a standered one but the clearence between the waterpump and radiator is very small on a TA22 Celica
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Re: Cooling system Mods Sat, 30 August 2003 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if i was living in darwin and had a standard engine i would keep the standard setup other wise you may experience massive heatsoak
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Re: Cooling system Mods Sat, 30 August 2003 12:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If reversing a fan from behind the rad to in front and so having it blow rather that suck you may need to change the fan. I've seen on at least davies craig fans instructions to reverse the fan if blowing. This needs to be considered along with motor polarity.
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Jason
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Re: Cooling system Mods Sun, 31 August 2003 00:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
As clubagreenie said you can reverse the fans sometime simply by changing the polarity and you can also take the fan off alltogether and turn it over this is what i did on my 23 when i mounte the fan on the front of the radiator
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Norbie
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Re: Cooling system Mods Sun, 31 August 2003 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Most fan blades are designed to work efficiently in one direction only; that's why it's not a good idea to reverse the polarity. It will work, but reversing the fan blades will work much better.
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Re: Cooling system Mods Mon, 01 September 2003 01:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i want to change my engine fan to twin 10" thermos
i will put them on the front of the radiator, should i keep the radiator shroud that goes around the fan or take it off?

Doesnt the engine fan rape HP? Confused
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Norbie
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Re: Cooling system Mods Mon, 01 September 2003 01:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If it's a clutch fan, it will use a very small amount of power. Maybe 1 or 2 hp at high rpm, at the very most.
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thechuckster
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Re: Cooling system Mods Mon, 01 September 2003 13:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FWIW: in my RA40, i had a 16" davies mounted behind radiator in place of factory (clutch centre) fan and cowling...

But i went back to factory fan/cowling - takes a bit longer to warm up engine, but holds temp steady except climbing the big hill to Maleny (Qld) under heavy boost and recovers quickly afterwards now too.

opinion?: use two 12/14" thermo fans with suitable ducting to push air from front when the going gets heavy, but try to keep the factory fan with cowl to stop heat-soak under the bonnet. If you want to chuck the factory fan - keep the cowl somehow.

The earlier Rxx engines prefer to always have airflow under the bonnet.

Charles.
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cs01_510
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Re: Cooling system Mods Wed, 03 September 2003 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So which one is it better for slightly modified motor that runs hotter than usual? I have a RA29 with 20R Motor. I have headers and 'cooling-problems'. I think water pump.

Anyways. Is the flex fan recommended or the thermo fan in my situation? I live in the states, in my area, it gets pretty hot on hot days. Cooling probs will be solved soon...

But i will buy fan before this is done. I also drive traffic (stop and go / low speeds) and run autoX/gymkana courses on weekends.

Thanks for input!
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coronamark2
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Re: Cooling system Mods Wed, 03 September 2003 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if your water pump's fkd then getting a new fan wont fix it, hunt one down or you will hurt your engine.

get a new thermostat while your at it to Mad jks dude Very Happy
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Norbie
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Re: Cooling system Mods Wed, 03 September 2003 04:21 Go to previous message
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the stock fan - I don't have any problems with my RA23 even in the height of summer. If you're having cooling problems there's something else wrong - probably water pump or radiator.
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