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RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 08:43 Go to next message
well, the excessive tail-happyness I was talking about was my downfall. Cruising the old pac, taking it fairly easy because I kinew the handling had changed with that weight removed from the boot, and I came up to the left hander outside pie in the sky.

Hit a bump/pothole, and that got the back swinging out. Now normally this is fine, back off a little and it slots back in nicely. So I do this, and for some reason it keeps swinging, turning into a big over-correct. unfortunately, there was no room to correct this one, as I was already close to the gutter. so up the gutter I went, and then up the embankment the left side of my car started to go. At this point I thought, in perfect clarity, "fuck, it's going to flip". Then the still-swinging back collected the beginning of the rock wall, spun the car out 90 degrees, and left me facing the rock wall blocking 2 of the 3 lanes of traffic.

Luckily a guy who lives next to pie in the sky heard the crash, came out.. said g'day, the usual. called a mate and a flat-bed towie. firt towie said 20 mins, then 15 mins later called to confirm 5 mins, then 20 mins later didn't show. tried to call him for another 10 mins - no answer. so called ABAL (highly recommended by the way, the guy was nice and careful) and they picked up the car (which was hard - look at damage assessment)

Damage assessment:
-Both front wheels now steer independantly of each other, and the steering wheel (which made the towie's job REALLY hard)
-front left wheel is half buckled under
-right rear has a flat and a 10cm graze on the rim, otherwise fine
-left rear has been ripped mostly off the chassis, and is pushed back into the mud guard.
-Point of impact was on passenger door & 3/4 panel, and it's pushed about 30cm in, in an area about 75cm long
-both left flares ripped off, and partly lodged in various parts of the chassis and wheels
-left 3/4 window is broken
-front bumper has damage

So basically, from the drivers side of the car, it looks absolutely perfect except for a flat tire.
from the back, it looks perfect
from the front, it looks like it's had a rough life, but fine
from the passenger side, it screams "WRITE OFF" - which is what it is.

being stripped for parts, and looking for another supra to put it in. any help would be much appreciated Smile

and just as I was really getting attached to it, wanting to make it absolutely perfect. *sigh*
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 09:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Holy shit dude, your Supra's just don't want to stay on the road do they? Heres hoping the next one will be exactly what you want it to be... Very Happy

RIP to your car dude Sad Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 09:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
OH MAN!!!

thats not cool man, but glad to hear you are alright and the engine can be saved. It should be a pretty simple swap over now that the conversion is already done.

Hehe buy Jaze's conversion, sell yours and buy a new body Twisted Evil

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 09:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thats very very sad to hear Sad Sad
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nope nath, not at all.
I'm very sad about it.. I really was getting attached to it. at least I've learnt. I'm gonna set aside money for track days now... I couldn't bear to lose another one like that.

and yeah, buy another one and do the swap... everything in the engine bay is in perfect condition, so it should be fairly cheap and easy.
Jaze's is tempting, but the turbos are boned.. plus it'd cost me a grand or two more than I could sell this one for, and then I'd have 2 ecus, 2 exhausts.... just not worth it.
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just stick to the original plan and get a nice shell for it.

note to self: put money aside for track days Smile
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
!!!

Very sorry to hear

its amazing how much more stable a rear end is with weight in the back ey

when i took all the crap out of the back of the celica one day i took a corner hard and almost spun out where as originally i wouldve only made the rear jiggle a little at the most

anywayz.....heres to learning about knowing your roads

thats pretty lucky how the engine etc is all sweet so u can just swap it all in

u seem to be taking this pretty well....i dunno....tone is hard to judge over the net

RIP MA61

I hope the next one is just what u want

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I am taking it well
pissed off that I crashed it just when I was starting to get attached... but them's the breaks.

already looking at a few new bodies, so hopefully not too long and it will live again.
after I get my thesis done
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Here goes dude. It makes me wanna cry, good to hear you're taking it well though and still thinking rationally.

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 11:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
damn thats a nice little bingle Nope

I guess you really have to think... you drive like a dick like we all do and you will have this shit happen.. I've had my share..

now you have all the "I told you so"s to look forward to.

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeps
I think I'm gonna take the philosophy of my mate.
fast in a straight line is good.
fast round corners is for the track.
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark,


fuck i hate to see shit like that, btw in the 2nd pic it looks like something is hanging out the side of the rim?
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah
that's the flare
somehow wedged itself in between rim and tire
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 11:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mate I am so sorry to see that! I wished I had gotten a ride, and I can understand how you get attached, after all the time and effort that get's put into 'your baby'. I remember all the wiring you did for Dyno Day.. *sniff*

It is heartbreaking to crash your baby... I can relate

Well buddy let me know if you want a hand moving the new motor over. Smile You know I am in Epping.... Smile

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 11:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
P.S. I'll buy your seats off you..
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 11:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks man, appreciated

get back to me on the seats in a week or so, when I'm a bit more sorted out as to what I'm gonna do
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah man for sure, let me know if you want a hand at any time.

cheers - Rob Smile
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shit, I know this means it's more likely you'll sell me your seats, but I am very sorry to hear about this. I was sad just when i had a *prang*, I know what it is like to be attached to a car and your plans for it. I love these A6 cars, just seeing ANY car written off is sad.

Glad you are okay and no-one else got hurt.

You doing a thesis too, eh? What subject? Mines due in 7 weeks.... haven't done much writing yet though... shit
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 13:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah ditto.. I got 6 weeks, and done buggerall wriging and buggerall research
I'm shitting bricks
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
6 weeks? dudes - start writing! seriously Rolling Eyes lol ...

my last 3 whole nights before handing it in were utterly sleepless. i slept on and off during the day where i could, but i basically pulled about 80hours straight through. the last 7 hours of the last night was spent simply PRINTING the damn thing - do not underestimate how long printing 3 copies of a big MOFO thesis takes on a bubble jet - and buy refils!!

then the morning run around to get it bound

then the 1pm drinking session began Very Happy

write write write!!!

cheers
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah, tell me about it
tomorrow arvo most of the method is getting written up. but that's the smallest bit Sad
next week the research goes into 5th gear.
after that, start writing parts of the intro, with more research
by then the results should be ready... so then it gets hard Sad
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 13:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
my biggest tip -

dont leave writing the discussion till last... its the most important bit, but typically youll leave it till last cause everything else is easier to do first.

methods is easy, results are easy (fuckin stats)... intro and discussion is where its at (hehe i wrote the last bits of my discussion as i was printing the morning it was due!)

discussion.... Very Happy

oh, btw - bad luck about the car dude Sad
think of the fun of building a new one though!!

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hrm.. well I dont really have a choice. method will be done tomorrow, as it requires no research.
intro will then be started, but results will affect it. discussion
then abstract

and try and remmeber the 2151467521 references
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 13:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Greg......It's a sorry sight to see your car like that, and reading about what happened must be painful to remember Confused

I'm the guy that came up to you at the scene of the accident and asked if you were Grant's bro. (and then pissed off when warned of bacon presence Very Happy)

Yeah, it was hell scary........if we didn't see that cop car going in the other direction (about 1km from where you were), and didn't slow down, i reckon the whole pack that i was cruising with would of slammed into your car, and even the tow truck would have recieved some treatment too.

You obviously heard all of us lock up yeah? i thought the guy behind me was gonna slam into me and cause a pile up ! (i was the second car)

But holy shit did we get out of there fast.....cops + OP = no good!!! Rolling Eyes
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 15:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dear oh dear
what have u done to your poor car greg
i saw it for the first time about a year ago
little did i noe it was going to get molested
*sigh*
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 30 August 2003 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah, I thought there was gonna be a pile up too
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icon9.gif  Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 01:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Ouchies - So sorry to see that dude Crying or Very Sad

Hope you find another perfect body and get the engine back to life soon.

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thats painful to see a car like that Sad, good that no-one was hurt tho

first two topics in this forum are both by draven, "I just caused an accident" and "I just had an accident" Smile

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
incidentally, I think I may have had a blowout, which would explain the sudden oversteer, and very strange handling of the car that led to the crash. I've been mulling over what the hell went wrong (as you do, so it wont happen again) and that seems the most likely explanation, as I've taken that corner much faster before, and trying to correct that little bit of oversteer was BLOODY hard
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Anything is possible I suppose, what sort of tyres are they?
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 08:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
buggered if I can remember. 235s. sukimoto?
something like that
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 08:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tyre could have been a little flat before you left and it rolled a bit more?
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sumitomo sounds closer.

uummm... well I hadn't checked them that day, but they were up at 32-34 not too long ago, and had no leaks as far as I know.

edit: of course, nothing means I didn't get a slow release leak on the way out there.
I plan to have a look at that rear wheel and see if there are any nails/screws in it

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 08:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Holy crap dude , thats very nasty indeed . Good to see that you are alright tho.
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 09:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
That sucks Sad , it was a gorgeous car mate, glad your OK though.

RIP 1JZ MA61

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I got dibs on your diff Smiley =

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I may need the diff.. depends on how good the one in the next supra I buy is. I'll be buying a new supra soonish, if it's silver I'll scavange whatever I need, then sell what's left.
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well just remember me if your new one has a decent diff in it
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 11:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it'll all be in the for sale section when I'm ready to part with it
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
insurance ?? or dont you get any because it was your fault ??

btw - i hate too see people hard work down the drain Sad
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 23:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm not sur if you're aware of what a 1jz ma61 costs to insure. but suffice to say it wasn't worth it... so none of that Sad
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 31 August 2003 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Argh! Sorry to hear it dude... it always brings a tear to my eye when I see another bent MA61. Sad

Try to see this as an opportunity to build an even better MA61! Smile
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Mon, 01 September 2003 00:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Dude! Very sorry to hear. Sad

It could've ended up being a dead shock. I had a similar experience once.

There's a corner near my house that's wide and smooth. I used to always get sideways around that corner (which with a 21R-C meant that you tried to rip the steering wheel off when you turn). Anyway, came home one day and did my usual thing and the rear end just swung out and out and OUT. Huge over correction had me ending up parked perpendicular to the road!
I go: "WTF?! This can't be right". So I drove back and attempted the corner again. Same thing happened!!!
So I slowly drove home, very shaken, thinking that the laws of physics had changed on me.
Next morning, I look under the car and my rear left shock had snapped...
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Mon, 01 September 2003 00:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hmmm... I'll have to check that. it's just the flat tire on the least damaged corner that makes me wonder.

and yes, I'm gonna take my time with the conversion, wait for another near-perfect shell... etc etc.
will be months in the making I'm thinking.
good excuse for a nice FMIC, as my current one now has a few dents in the bottom from the tow trip

incidentally, how heavy is a steering wheel typically, the whole unit just undoing the centre nut?
it seems bloody heavy compared to what I expected.
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Mon, 01 September 2003 05:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
draven wrote on Mon, 01 September 2003 07:21

I'm not sur if you're aware of what a 1jz ma61 costs to insure. but suffice to say it wasn't worth it... so none of that Sad


shame Sad

I know how it is..hope things pan out in the future Smile
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Tue, 02 September 2003 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad
NOOOOOOOO!!! not another one! RIP ma61!
Sorry to hear Man..thats such a shame...i know wat id be like after 3 years with my baby...i was in hysterics when i hit a tree and stuffed a guard for christ's sake! Ah well want you to know we share your sadness.

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Mon, 08 September 2003 00:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Try to see this as an opportunity to build an even better MA61!


So does that mean if I sneak over one night and strip your car you'll buy another one and have some pride in it? Very Happy
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Tue, 09 September 2003 03:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
draven - what bout putting into an ra65 ? or is the engine bay not big enough ?
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Tue, 09 September 2003 03:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
um.
It *can* fit, but it's a lot more work.

thing is I already have the engine mounts and exhaust and IC and plumbing to fit it all up to an MA61 - so the conversion will cost me a change of oil, change of coolant, and that's it. cant argue with getting 300+bhp for that sorta money
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Thu, 11 September 2003 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad


so sad draven, i always wanted to see your car and the piccies i saw he was all hurt Crying or Very Sad

i hope your next supra kicks more arse than your last one, and good luck and so on.

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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Thu, 11 September 2003 13:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ah well
I was actually in ballarat with it not too long ago.
I'll bring the next one down.. promise Smile
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 13 September 2003 02:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
draven wrote on Thu, 11 September 2003 23:07

ah well
I was actually in ballarat with it not too long ago.
I'll bring the next one down.. promise Smile


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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 13 September 2003 02:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MMmmm... I'm usually fanging it near the big industial park on the outskirts (I know a gorgeous girl who lives there - well used to). amazed you didn't hear me, a lot of the other locals gave me some strange looks
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oh yeah, ill remember that when you've got your new baby down in ballarat....i have only had my licence about 6 months, so maybe thats why i didnt hear you, or i just couldn't hear it over the roar of my 21r-c Razz Razz Laughing
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Wed, 24 September 2003 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
here's a few more of the problem Sad
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RobST162
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Wed, 24 September 2003 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whoa. Yeah, I would call that a "problem" Smile

Can't wait for the sequel!
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ZZT231
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Thu, 25 September 2003 10:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sorry to hear what happend to your baby Sad
To make you feel better...
Here is a photo of my baby when I hit something solid...

http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~tenorman/FrontOn1.JPG

Cheers.
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sat, 27 September 2003 02:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so much sadness in this thread.... Sad
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draven
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 28 September 2003 16:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
update: just realised today that I snapped the rhs steering arm. not bent, snapped. the lhs one is just bent, but REALLY bent.
The intercooler (whoever was asking about buying it) is now shaped like a banana I've just realised. Still holds perfect pressure, just shaped funny.

The fact this has happened to the intercooler has me worried. either it took a hit initially (as it's the lowest point of the front of my car) or the chassis bent and took it out.
if the chassis is bent, I'm worried about the condition of radiator/pipes/engine mounts etc.

and yes, I'm procrastinating about my thesis ed - and starting to get scared Sad
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Re: RIP: My much loved baby Sun, 19 October 2003 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
i know with RA40's i have wrecked that had heavy front impacts normaly bend the rails before the x-member and you will see the seams opened up between the inner guard and firewall,

Just be happy if nothing is torn off the block and nothing was torn off you!

Allan
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