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airfireman1
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icon5.gif  engine swap Mon, 01 September 2003 04:42 Go to next message
Does anybody have any ideas for a engine swap for a 1985 hilux 4X2. I preferably want to drop a twin cam in, in place of the 3y
has anybody got any ideas? I also want to lower it, where can I get it done (perth). I have three weeks befor it goes back on the road and would like to sort something out before then.
ther must be someone out there that has modified a hilux 4X2?
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Re: engine swap Mon, 01 September 2003 04:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I know you can fit a hilux engine into a Gemini with little work.

You can also put into an gemi: piazza turbo, 13b turbo, and 308 v8 amongst others...with little to no effort.

My powers of deduction say that any of these should then work into a hilux, but I am no means an expert, so check it out first.
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Re: engine swap Mon, 01 September 2003 04:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
slap a 308 in it or a turbo six, you want some power to hall the hilux around - you will pay big dollars for a turbo engine conversion, what about a later model hilux turbo diesil engine?
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airfireman1
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Re: engine swap Mon, 01 September 2003 06:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah, I was looking at putting a toyota engine in, I have an 18rgu and 5speed in the shed but wondering about engine mount changes and crossmember changes, I was also wondering about a twin cam 1600 out of a corolla or celica there is not much available in the west and it is all pricey. as a toyota purist I cant see a gemini motor in a toyota, thought of a v6 commodore motor but again price is a factor
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Re: engine swap Tue, 02 September 2003 03:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1GGTE, 3VZ, 1JZ...arr... mm.. 1UZ... 2RZ.. well where can do stop? Any of the toyota model RWD engine will fit, with little work, I wouldn't even look at the 18RG when you have a look at the prices of a 1GGTE, which will eat a holden for dinning...
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Re: engine swap Tue, 02 September 2003 04:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i dont know what differences there would be between the YN** and RN** hilux crossmemebers, but checking out a similar model RN** hilux and its x-member might be worth a look.

I had thoughts of chucking my spare 18R-G into a mates old RN30(?) hilux which had an 18rc.... but passed on it after he was going to sell it.
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Re: engine swap Tue, 02 September 2003 04:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
all hilux's after '85 share very similar chassis, in fact all have very minor. The x-members all sit in the same position ie rear sum on the engines. All the engine mounts are located in the same position and same goes with the g/box x-member
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Re: engine swap Tue, 02 September 2003 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks johnny, very useful to know!
I had assumed as much, but without having inspected myself i didnt want to say so! Smile
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Re: engine swap Tue, 02 September 2003 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
weve put a 1ggte in an early model hilux with very minimal modifications needed to get it in there and running Smile
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airfireman1
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Re: engine swap Wed, 03 September 2003 04:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks for the info Keep it up. The 1ggte fits then. can you tell me roughly what major changes you had to do ie x member changes and engine mounts. This lux is plated 12/84 but was not released until 85.Tried telling insurance that it was an 84 sr5 auto and they told me it cant be anyway the 3y and auto has to go. I FEEL THE NEED FOR SPEED
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Re: engine swap Wed, 03 September 2003 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you've got a fax machine, I can send you and article from a really really old hot 4's where NRG here in Syd, put one in the exact same model... interested? It's way too big to scan and email.
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airfireman1
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Re: engine swap Wed, 03 September 2003 05:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Great to get some info on the conversion
I am at work untill 7pm est no rest for the wicked so here is my fax no
08 94768689
thanks for your help
Dave
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dcving
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Re: engine swap Wed, 03 September 2003 05:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no crossmember mods needed, use i think 2 driver side 3y engine mounts (then again it could be pasenger side, cant remember now) holes need too be slightly elongated. we used the radiator out of the half cut & needs to be moved slightly forward, youll also need to make up a new gearbox crossmember or modify the existing one the tail shaft bolt straight up
the intake plumbing which goes over the top of the engine needs 100mm taken out of it. youll also need to upgrade fuel system.
as for wiring grant blundell made up a harness to suit. then you plug it in 5 or 6 wires and away you go Very Happy


as for that artical in hot 4s that is what we tried to use as a guide and basically it tells you nothing, we went by what few pictures were there but really the whole artical was of no help Confused


p.s if you need any specific help just ask or pm me Smile

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Johnny
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Re: engine swap Wed, 03 September 2003 05:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No worries Dave, but you'll have to wait a couple of day's (fri @best) I'm off to Coff harbour (north coast)... work not Pleasure guys!!
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airfireman1
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Re: engine swap Wed, 03 September 2003 05:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks mate any info and help is always appreciated Will be on shift until sunday morning but have access to the net at all times
Dave
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Re: engine swap Fri, 05 September 2003 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dave,
I've managed to scan the article and winzip it to a reasonable size, so I'll email it to you.... any one else wanna copy too? By the way I was wrong, hilux's have a front sump, but it's been a while since I've worked on one.
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airfireman1
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Re: engine swap Fri, 05 September 2003 11:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks
I am tending towards your idea for the engine swap. awaiting your email
Dave
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Re: engine swap Fri, 05 September 2003 16:02 Go to previous message
not sure if it was a hilux i saw, but it was definately a toyota 4X4 it had a 7MGTE and it ran pretty quick.

just a suggestion but i might be wrong! Smile
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