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Question about conversion
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Wed, 03 September 2003 06:31
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Hi, im a newbie to the forum and cars.
My friend has just gone overseas and given me a 2001 Lancer with an Evo bodykit and its auto. Everyone calls it ricer bullshit 
so i want to change the engine to something with more power but i've never done a engine conversion myself and i want to attempt one, what do you guys think?
and how would i change the auto into a manual?
thanks
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Question about conversion
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Wed, 03 September 2003 06:51
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1st - you're probably asking on the wrong forum 
2nd - since you've never done anyhting like it before, it'll end up being quite expensive as you'll have to pay a workshop to do almost all of it.
budget a minimum of $8k, without even considering what sort of engine you want to put in. if that's still in your price range, keep asking questions.
if not, dream
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Perth
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May 2003
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Re: Question about conversion
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Wed, 03 September 2003 06:53
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sell it and buy a rear wheel drive.
no offence intended but if you are serious about car performance sell it which you should get like $15000 minumum(i dunno) and get a decent car you can mould in to a beast but if you like the lancer slap a turbo on it, but even if you have a 500hp lancer it would still be called rice.
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Strathfield
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September 2003
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Re: Question about conversion
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Wed, 03 September 2003 07:00
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yeah but the things is i want to try myself so i can learn
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Strathfield
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September 2003
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Re: Question about conversion
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Wed, 03 September 2003 07:43
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damn that sucks guess im stuck with an auto underpowered lancer
thanks for the advice
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Hornsby, Sydney
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October 2002
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Re: Question about conversion
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Wed, 03 September 2003 08:44
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There's a variable valve timing head that bolts straight on to the engine thats in it. but if you know little about what you are doing you should really start with older 70's model cars. if you root the lancer motor (which isnt hard to do on the odd occasion) it will cost a small fortune to replace. if you root a 70's model celica engine you can buy a new one on these forums mainly for less than $150.
My advice would be buy something that is easier to do a conversion on such as a TA22 celica or Sprinter etc.
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Hornsby, Sydney
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October 2002
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Re: Question about conversion
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Wed, 03 September 2003 08:48
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i think its called a mivec engine or head. not too sure never really paid enough attention to it
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Strathfield
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September 2003
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Re: Question about conversion
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Wed, 03 September 2003 13:07
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Im still thinking would it be possible for me to take out the Lancer engine and drop in a Galant VR4 engine into it or a 4G63B myself without using a workshop?
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Question about conversion
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Wed, 03 September 2003 14:17
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it could be done. the evo 8 still uses the same 4G engine..
my advice is to plan it out all. and study
ive done a conversion and didnt know much about cars.. all i new was howto use a spanner and wrench. like everyone is saying here. your best bet is to just try. make sure you have - the tools, money, and support that can back you up if anything goes wrong or you end up getting stuck.
so hit google, do some research on the 4G63. print out the notes for 4wd to fwd conversions etc. Then study more about your car. The mounting, chassis.. get an overall idea so that you can feel comfortable and know what to look for or what to work around.
write a check list and keep logs of plans thoughts on the way.. when you have all the parts you think are needed then go for it
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Question about conversion
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Fri, 05 September 2003 10:35
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but if you want to come out of the experience with with more than half of the dollars your put into it then you whould sell the rice-mobile and put the money towards a car that was designed to go fast in the first place. An auto alncer witha bodykit will be an expensive proposition to make go fast unless you can do all the work yourself. You've conceded that you don't know jack so if you're determined to own a fast car then the cheapest option would be to sell. If you don't care about cost then go for it - turbo the slug, otherwise you'd be better off starting with a clean sheet.
PS - what are you doing on a toyota forum when you own a sigle-cam lancer???
Personally - I'd recommed an ae82 twin-cam. A great car to learn on. cheap, reliable and upgradable.
sorry for the typos - just dropping in after work drinkcs.
cheeeers.
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: Question about conversion
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Fri, 05 September 2003 10:57
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i assume your lancer is a fairly new one if it has an evo kit. Like 99ish. The laws say you can not put an engine in a car that is older than it. So a vr4 engine of the very new variety would not be very cheap at all! Do what my friend did. Sold his 99 model lancer with a bodykit and went and imported a jzz30 model soarer Twin Turbo. Heaps better looking (even stock) way faster and more luxury. Can't go wrong!
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Perth
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November 2002
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Re: Question about conversion
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Thu, 18 September 2003 14:25
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Unless your lancer is an Evo, don't bother. Sell it and buy a serious car. Trying to make a normal lancer fast is pointless, as the good engines are all very expensive, then you have traction issues, so you decide to do a rwd or 4wd conversion, then you might as well have bought an evo to start off with Lancer's are a posers car, so if you don't want to be a poser, get rid of it. (unless ofc, its just a runabout daily driver, but from your sounds you want it to be a fast car)
don't get a ta22, get a 23, their larger engine bay gives more options for modifications
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Question about conversion
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Fri, 19 September 2003 00:23
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Yeah, ur best bet is the soarer in my oppinion aswell.. or even a nissan 180sx. sell your car and you could afford both probably(one or the other) and they both look heaps better anyway.
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