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Wed, 03 September 2003 07:17
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Ok I'm not a Toyota historian or anything, but whatever happened to people calling their cars a Corolla or a Corona or an MR-2? I might be a bit behind the times or something, but I have no idea what people are going on about when they say AE71 or AE86 or RA28... I guess it'd be like calling my car an SXA-11R. WTF is that to those who don't know what model code a RAV4 is?? Or an ACA-21R (newer-model RAV4...)  I just can't get my head around all these codes - I gotta actually see what the car is to mate-up the model to the code #. 
Does anyone else have this problem?? Thoughts, views? Maybe a list of models to model code #'s?
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Wed, 03 September 2003 07:19
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yeh that happens i guess
but i learnt quick
except i still have no idea about soarers and other assorted jap models
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Wed, 03 September 2003 07:56
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the reason people use the chassis codes is because it defines which celica or corolla it is.
the RA28 celica is VERY much different to an ST162 celica so when someone asks for info on their celica its best to specify what model it actually is.
same with corollas compare a KE35 to a AE92 mucho different, mucho need for specification when talking about them.
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Wed, 03 September 2003 14:49
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You see when they talk in chassis codes, I got no idea if it's a Celica or a Corolla or what it is. It's a stalemate to the uneducated. If you don't know your Toyota heritage, while everyone else goes along talking about MA-xx and RA-xx and this and that, I'm left scratching my head, knowing only that it's a Toyota of some kind, but neither year or model are distinct.
It's extremely confusing, and I know I'm not the only one with the confusion. But I guess it's stiff-tits to those who don't know...
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Wed, 03 September 2003 15:09
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This breif article might help abit, when I started out here a while ago didn't know anything about the codes, now most of it makes sense....just takes a while.
http://www.toymods.org.au/model_codes.html
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Wed, 03 September 2003 15:16
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Thanks - still doesn't make much sense, as there's no continuity with the codes. I guess I'll just have to call mine an SXA-11R from now on then.
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Wed, 03 September 2003 23:20
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Dont worry, im pretty much the same. Half of the model codes confuse the buggery out of me. I just read what people are saying and usually catch on in the end. I only realyl have problems with supras, soarers and some of the early model celicas. I drive a AE92 seca so most of the information on these cars doesnt really have any importance to me so I dont worry about it. You will slowly learn.
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Wed, 03 September 2003 23:40
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Yeah, what everyone else said - the more you're exposed to this sort of stuff, the quicker you'll pick it up. Most people don't know all model codes, but are familiar with the codes for the vehicles they're interested in (eg a Corolla nut knows the difference between a KE55 and an AE92, but may not know the difference between an MX62 and a JZX90).
The important thing to remember with model codes is the last letter in the code is the chassis code which designates the type of car it is. For example, "RA23" is an A chassis which is for all RWD Celicas and Supras. Corollas have an E chassis (eg KE70), Cressidas/Chasers/MkII's have an X chassis (eg MX83), MR2's have a W chassis (eg SW21), and so on. I can't remember the RAV4 chassis code right now but it will have its own unique code. Once you're familiar with these codes you'll know what sort of car someone is talking about when they start spouting model modes. 
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Thu, 04 September 2003 00:30
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The Engine Swap Guide in the tech articles section has a list of model codes under the name of each car. That might help.
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Thu, 04 September 2003 01:58
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Hey, once there's 50 different models of rav4s, then you'll be talking in codes!
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Thu, 04 September 2003 02:54
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Hey man, you learn pretty quickly, plus most people write the code then the car. For e.g
AE102 Corolla. 
Now by looking at that tells me shes a Toyota Corolla.
Easy 
So know i know the code AND the car! 
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Thu, 04 September 2003 03:57
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yer I'm originally a nissan person, and still am, i know all the nissan codes off by heart, but give me a toyota code, and all i know is corollas and supra, other ones i think they are a celica
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Thu, 04 September 2003 08:27
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The codes for RAV4's are like this...
SXA-10/11/15/16 R/G/W, etc... because RAV4's aren't all 4WD vehicles across the world. In America and some other countries they're sold as 2WD's as well, hence the 15&16 options. The last letter is dependent on country code I think. That's all I can narrow it down to.
The newer model ones like ACA-20/21/25/26 R/G/W, etc. are the same codes except for different generations.
Toyota are planning on scrapping the RAV4 by 2007. It's had a good run, so they reckon. How long have Celica's and Corolla's been around? The popularity of the RAV4 just keeps growing, so I think the sales figures will dictate whether or not it gets discontinued. They gotta have SOME stake in the compact-4WD market, rather than chop off their own balls and be bled by the competition.
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Thu, 04 September 2003 22:52
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When I speak to my friends about my cars I don't use numbers cause I have 3 RA23's, mine all have names so it works out well.
Jokey (as in the smurf), Hulk (parts car) and Moose (named after the guy I bought it off)
If friends see me in my car it's never "I saw you driving..." it's always "I saw Jokey..."
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Fri, 05 September 2003 01:08
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It's something you get used to...
I like Norbie's summation; If you're interested in a particular car, you'll get to "know the code" for it (and it's brethren).
Also, a read of the appropriate articles helps in breaking down the nomenclature.
For example:
I have an MX83 Cressida. I know from the code that it runs an "M" series engine (7M-GE), has an "X" chassis (4-door sedan), and is an 83-series car (market-specific designation, AFAIK). As another example, a similar Cressida in, say, the Philippines, might be called an RX-80, which means it runs (in this case) a 22R engine, has the same "X" chassis, but is marketed only in that country (hence the "80" designation). In Japan, they have the JZX-81 Chaser - again, similar to mine, but it runs a "JZ" series engine (1JZ-GTE), same "X" chassis and a JDM-market code... A bit long-winded, but hope it "clarifies things a bit...
Of course, my model code should now read UZX-83, as my Cressida now runs a 1UZ-FE...Hope that makes sense?
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Fri, 05 September 2003 15:30
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| Billy-Mason PI wrote on Thu, 04 September 2003 12:54 |
Hey man, you learn pretty quickly, plus most people write the code then the car.
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That's precisely the problem - most people don't do this... otherwise I wouldn't be making this point. It's because of this confusion that I brought this topic up.
It's assumed knowledge from the author. Well it's just something that will have to sink in over time I guess...
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Sat, 06 September 2003 15:44
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yeah i sorta got this problem, i know my celicas n supras, and the corollas are sinking in.....but i guess i will learn it all one day
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Sun, 07 September 2003 23:59
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I'll disagree with that. IMHO Toyota has the most simple and easy to follow chassis designations of any other major manufacturer.
I didn't know much about Celicas, because I don't really like them. But I picked up a lot of it because a friend has an RA23 Celica... and I know that they're very similar to a TA22 but with a smaller engine bay and smaller engine. So there's two I know straight off the bat.
I had an MA71 Supra... "M" means the engine (ie. it has a 7M engine)... the "A" means it is a Supra/Celica, and the "71" tells me that it is a Mk3 Supra, which means that I know the exact shape and approximate years of the car straight away.
Anoither example of how simple it is... the ST141 and RT142 Corona. They are basically the same car, but one came with an "S" engine, and the other came with an "R" engine.
The numbers that people quote are generally the first couple of digits of the chassis number. Spend half an hour at a wreckers one day looking in the engine bay of various cars.
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Mon, 08 September 2003 02:51
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I've been in the club bout 18 months & still figuring it out.
About 85, when most cars stiwtched to FWD, the codes changed a bit.
My car is a CT190 Caldina (Corona).
1st letter is the engine (my case a 2C, the petrol ones had ST190)
2nd letter is chassis (T for Corona)
3 numbers are the series (19 for this one, next model is 21) & driveline configuration. This is not consistent unfortunately between car types. eg Corolla, Celica, etc. 
The main point is, if you don't know, ask.
And if they call you stupid for asking, I give you permission to give them a smack in the mouth. 
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Re: Car names & numbers...
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Mon, 08 September 2003 08:02
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i dont know how you get the soarers mixed up.. there were only 4 shapes. Chassis codes Z10, z20, z30 ( i have nfi about the sc430 though)
either being having G, JZ, M or U series engines.
if you wanna match pictures with model codes, even though this site is in japanese, you can still get the picture.. click on one of the links
http://www.warachan.com/version3/gallery/toyota-ga llery/toyota-gallery.htm
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