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September 2003
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 a sleeper 20 v
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Wed, 03 September 2003 18:38
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hey guys got some questions for u. I got a Toyota corolla wagon bz 1999 bug eye model FWD &6 speed gearbox comes with the black cover 20 valve 2gen motor I'm getting a 4agze motor from a back crashed sprinter. im wondering if i can use the block from the 4agze engine with the 4age20 head and ecu, finally put on the original supercharger or an aftermarket one. in all i want to super charge the sucker ( 4age20 ).i read that u have to stenghten the bottom end to do so.So thats why I'm using the 4agze block it already supercharger ready or if the block cannot work us the crank and pistons along with the rest of the bottom end tidbits in the 4age20 engine . also what cams do u recommend i use with the supercharger. And if there are any think else that i can do to get extra hp like ceramic coating balancing port and polish the head even though its go some huge ports going to the 1800cc pistons increasing the injector size .changing the ecu chip ,piggy back system etc...your help will be nice this is a big project for me and i don't want to go in the wrong direction they say planning is essential for such things. One mre thing could i use anything from the new 1ZZFE and 2ZZGE engines in the 4age20 engine seeing that they use the almost the same vvti system minus a valve
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Location:
sunny coast, qld
Registered:
October 2002
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Re: a sleeper 20 v
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Thu, 04 September 2003 00:26
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all i have heard is that it is a very hard job. If you could get in contact with Tony Rigoli as he has a 4agze block with 20v head on it with a t60-1 turbo in his corolla. It is for sale for $13000ish also. I saw in the trading post.  runs 11.9
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Location:
Sydney, OZ
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May 2002
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Re: a sleeper 20 v
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Thu, 04 September 2003 00:26
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can use the block from the 4agze engine with the 4age20 head
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No, need and aftermarket to do it properly as the 20V won't supply enough fuel and the GZE won't allow the VTT-i, but something could be rigged up...
you'll need to change this, i won't last long...
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original supercharger or an aftermarket one.
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a S/C would be a waste of time when you have such a nice free flowing head, Turbo's the way to go and takes advantage of this.
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port and polish the head
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most of the power from these engines comes from head work, but just be carefull as if it's not done properly, they can go the wrong way.
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changing the ecu chip ,piggy back system etc...
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see above, aftermarket will allow any combination you want, especially since your seeking High hp...
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One mre thing could i use anything from the new 1ZZFE and 2ZZGE engines
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Nothing... they're completely different engine.
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September 2003
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 Re: a sleeper 20 v
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Thu, 04 September 2003 13:33
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 so from what u said ze block with the ge20 head and a aftermarket ecu or a ge20 ecu with bigger injectors and fuel pump and a turbo cool i know u said sc bad but if i use a vortec or one like that u know the one that resembles the turbos will that help things kind of like the way how s/c sound .
what would be a good turbo supra , sr20 det, ca18, starlet or evo also should i us 1 or 2 . why i ask this is that i was planning to go a pair of 2:1 extractors with a cross for added hp also what kind of boost i can use before i totally brake the bottom end or blow it up i heard of a sr20 using 25psi on a stock block for dragging and 12 for everyday use hey what can i use and still maintain drivability don't get me wrong. i like high hp but it makes no sense when u got to idle at 1300 rpm and drink 1/4 tank for a 2 mile trip to me its a balance of getting dragging, racing,fuel economy & speed in one package with all the accessories like p/s & a/c etc.gear box  i really like this box whats wrong with it if i got to change the clutch and flywheel thats cool or what other replacement can i use to get the 4wd to work starlet 5wd there goes my 6 speed hey if u are implying that i loss my 4wd thing again that what im beating men on the 4wd system because the accel and traction is neck snapping .
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September 2003
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Re: a sleeper 20 v
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Thu, 04 September 2003 13:34
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how can i get in contact with this tony guy do u have an email address foro him.
thanks 
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Location:
Eskilstuna, Sweden
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: a sleeper 20 v
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Fri, 05 September 2003 02:39
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Yellow pages reveals:
Tony Rigoli Performance
HEADING:
Motor Engineers & Repairers
ADDRESS
30 Seville St
Fairfield
NSW, 2165
Australia
Ph: (02) 9726 6662
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Location:
sydney
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March 2003
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Re: a sleeper 20 v
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Fri, 05 September 2003 08:07
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just nmake sure u use a computer that will do a turbo and multiple throttle bodies
many cheap ones wont
its abit hard to get them to idle properly
an autronic and motec
think new ems can do it too
when u have multiple throttle bodies u get a funny vacuum reading to the ecu i think its not consistent due to pulses in the intake runners
this makes the engine idle irratically some ecu's
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Location:
Brisbane
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November 2002
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Re: a sleeper 20 v
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Fri, 05 September 2003 11:16
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That Corolla was not owned by Tony Rigoli.. it was built by Dom Rigoli of TRP on the Gold Coast... and owned by his (now) wife.
I believe the car was on-sold a long time ago (I'm talking a year at least).. and if I remember it got riced up too!
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Location:
Sydney, OZ
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May 2002
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Re: a sleeper 20 v
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Sat, 06 September 2003 08:56
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it was built by Dom Rigoli of TRP on the Gold Coast
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Correct, and is Son of Tony from Memory...
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just nmake sure u use a computer that will do a turbo and multiple throttle bodies
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Any ECU will work on the B/T, Silvertops are the problem as the don't allow for a map sensor. The B/T has a 'vacuum' plate which equalizes the air pressure going to the map sensor, this can't be used with silvertop t/b's only B/T.
Now that particular car running 11.9 sec was a real bit of gear.. They turfed the T/B's in favor of a GTR or Bommabore Item, and I would do the same, Multi Throttle's on a F/I engine has no advantages over a good old massive Throttle !!
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Location:
Canberra
Registered:
August 2003
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Re: a sleeper 20 v
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Sat, 06 September 2003 23:13
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Because the GZE came out in a previous model and not the 'bug eye' does that mean he wont be able to register it for the street?
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February 2003
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Re: a sleeper 20 v
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Sun, 07 September 2003 00:11
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mat4d20v from twincam.org now owns Sam Rigoli's old rolla, and yes it is for sale.
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Location:
Sydney, OZ
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: a sleeper 20 v
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Mon, 08 September 2003 03:51
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Because the GZE came out in a previous model and not the 'bug eye' does that mean he wont be able to register it for the street?
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May be, anyway, just use the 20V block....
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