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Hunter Valley
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Re: MZ20 (GZ or 21?) weight? What man-gearbox can bolt upto engine? Most r auto.
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Thu, 04 September 2003 12:13
 
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And what is the engine again standard in this Soarer model?
Does anyone have pics of the convertable one I have heard so much about??? hehe thnx
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Perth
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Re: MZ20 (GZ or 21?) weight? What man-gearbox can bolt upto engine? Most r auto.
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Thu, 04 September 2003 12:15
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A GZ20 is somewhere around the mid-1400kg mark. An MZ20 is somewhere around the high-1500kg/low-1600kg mark from memory, and the MZ21 is likely to be heavier again because of the airbag suspension.
A W58(and W57/W55) with appropriate G-series bellhousing, whereas a R154 with M-series bellhousing will bolt to the 7MGTE in the MZ20.
Both the 1JZGTE and the 2JZGTE would be engineerable in the car. The weights of the engine are up for speculation, but pick a number in between 200 and 250kg 
Hope that helps.
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: MZ20 (GZ or 21?) weight? What man-gearbox can bolt upto engine? Most r auto.
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Thu, 04 September 2003 12:16
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Just saw your other post.
The GZ20 comes with a 1GGTE or a 1GGE, possibly even a 1GFE. The MZ20/MZ21 comes with a 7MGTE.
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Ipswich QLD
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May 2002
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cronulla
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Re: MZ20 (GZ or 21?) weight? What man-gearbox can bolt upto engine? Most r auto.
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Thu, 04 September 2003 13:01
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the GZ20 tt - is 1450- 1470
the MZ21 is 1560 and 1570 fot the GT limited
w58 should bolt up to the MZ21 with the gearbox x-member from a N/A MA70 and front half of tailshaft.
Danish from these forums has a 1J in a GZ20. a 2J in one would be cool.
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Perth
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Re: MZ20 (GZ or 21?) weight? What man-gearbox can bolt upto engine? Most r auto.
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Thu, 04 September 2003 13:10
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I don't know what the total weight consists of as in those pages, but there is no way a GZ20 weighs that much! Stick it on a weigh-bridge and it should come in between 14-1500kg!
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Ipswich QLD
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: MZ20 (GZ or 21?) weight? What man-gearbox can bolt upto engine? Most r auto.
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Thu, 04 September 2003 13:24
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I know what you mean, but a MA70 Turbo A weighs 1575kg (on weighbridge), so there must be a BIG difference with their actual weights. The first column is what I usually see quoted.
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Hunter Valley
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February 2003
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Re: MZ20 (GZ or 21?) weight? What man-gearbox can bolt upto engine? Most r auto.
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Thu, 04 September 2003 14:42
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Thnx heaps guyz! Appreciated. Just starting to learn about early Soarers, I was orignally mostly lookin at 86's.
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March 2003
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Re: MZ20 (GZ or 21?) weight? What man-gearbox can bolt upto engine? Most r auto.
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Thu, 04 September 2003 15:37
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If you can find a nice manual with a good interior (easiest way to judge kilometers travelled) around 86-89 with either 1G-GTEU or 7M-GTE in black you will be one happy Soarer owner. Then put a 2JZ-GTE in it if your rich or a 1JZ VVTI single turbo engine.
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Central Coast, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: MZ20 (GZ or 21?) weight? What man-gearbox can bolt upto engine? Most r auto.
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Thu, 04 September 2003 22:40
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do you 2JZ-GTE's bolt straight in? I know the 1J's do... kinda. I don't know whether to do up my 7M or just plonk a better engine in (i've already taken care of the head gasket problems)
Dan
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Re: MZ20 (GZ or 21?) weight? What man-gearbox can bolt upto engine? Most r auto.
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Fri, 05 September 2003 08:09
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Need new engine mounts for the 1JZ and 2JZ & bellhousing, clutch, flywheel also depending on what engine/gearbox setup.
As I said, find a black 7M-GTE manual in Japan on auction! 
Exhaust, Airfilter, Boost, Intercooler, Metal Head Gasket, ARP bolts. They make alot of power.
[Updated on: Fri, 05 September 2003 11:26]
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: MZ20 (GZ or 21?) weight? What man-gearbox can bolt upto engine? Most r auto.
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Fri, 05 September 2003 11:10
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If i were you, I would probably stick with the 7m as it is a decent engine and can be made pretty powerful. Especially now that you have already spent money on the HG.
Conversions are not cheap, and when you are finished you usually only have a stock motor. So...choice is yours but i would start saving for a nice large turbo to bolt to the side of that 7M! 
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cronulla
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September 2002
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Re: MZ20 (GZ or 21?) weight? What man-gearbox can bolt upto engine? Most r auto.
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Sun, 07 September 2003 14:39
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im pretty sure you should be able to bolt th 2JZGTE straigt in to GZ or MZ21 with the following bits, (note - pretty sure, not saying its exactly right)
JZA70 xmember, JZA70 engine mounts
2JZGE manual bellhousing, flywheel, ect
7MGE - MA70 5 spd gearbox x-member
MA70 - 7MGE 5 spd tailshaft
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