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isaac
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Hi Flow Cat / Upgrading Induction System Tue, 09 September 2003 04:37 Go to next message
Hey. My Celica isn't that fast, but i want to at least be able to beat other celica drivers. I don't have a lot of money. I got a hot dog muffler not too long ago. I was wondering if getting all the crap outta my catylictic converter would make any difference? Like would it allow the gas to flow a bit more freely hence freeing up more HP? Even if it's only 2 or 3.

Can I just unbolt it or something, then smash the crap outta it? Or is it welded on and i would have to chop it off and then weld pipe or the smashed out cat back in?

Also, I want to improve my air induction system. I hear that my model celica ST184 1990 already has a good system, where a pipe comes from the front of the car up to the air box. Could i improve this with just a bit of piping or something? I just bought a new filter for it.

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Re: Hi Flow Cat / Upgrading Induction System Tue, 09 September 2003 04:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
with the cat no the best idea to do especially if u get defected and have to go to the epa for emisions test i dont think that u will pass
also if u are found out there is a hefty fine involved not a great idea at all....

with ur induction i dont know the car that well to make remarks
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Re: Hi Flow Cat / Upgrading Induction System Tue, 09 September 2003 06:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
your air intake already sounds pretty good.

regarding your cat, that's commonly known as "coring", and involves a large screwdriver and a mallet. it's illegal, a bit loud, and involves ruining a good piece of exhaust. if your car has bolts weither side of it, you can just unbolt it and core it.
if it doesn't, it'd be cheaper for you to pay an exhaust place to just remove the cat and weld in a piece of pipe
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Re: Hi Flow Cat / Upgrading Induction System Tue, 09 September 2003 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Most exhaust shops won't do that for you though - they cop massive fines if found out, way more than the owner has to pay. It's not worth the risk for the sake of a few bucks.

Anyway don't be a cheapskate, buy a high-flow cat and be done with it.
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Re: Hi Flow Cat / Upgrading Induction System Tue, 09 September 2003 07:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sprry
should read "if you have a friend who owns an exhaust shop"

norbie's right tho... if you have to go to the trouble of welding it, you're better off just buying a hi-flowone
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Re: Hi Flow Cat / Upgrading Induction System Tue, 09 September 2003 22:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
How much does a high flow cat cost? How much performance increase can i expect from a 5S-FE with just a hot dog muff on it? What brands do you guys recommend?

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Re: Hi Flow Cat / Upgrading Induction System Wed, 10 September 2003 00:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
high flow cat, on a 5s-fe?
dpends how big the exhaust system is, but you'd be looking at close to $200. On a stock non-performance engine, like the 5s-fe, you'd get minimal gains
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Re: Hi Flow Cat / Upgrading Induction System Wed, 10 September 2003 00:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well what other things can I do on a budget to just give me that little extra pep?
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Re: Hi Flow Cat / Upgrading Induction System Wed, 10 September 2003 00:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
do you think a high-flow on a stock exahust system like mine (not including the extractors) would be worth it? Or should I just save up and get a full system...

but if I buy a high-flow cat, it may not bolt onto a larger exhaust later?, or rather, won't fit to the existing tubing now...

you know my car... not exactly stock, but not exactly turbo either Smile

greg, get on with your thesis buddy! You post waaaay too much...hehe lol

[Updated on: Wed, 10 September 2003 00:21]

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Re: Hi Flow Cat / Upgrading Induction System Wed, 10 September 2003 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if you're planning on going a full exhaust at some stage, definitly wait till you install that.

"on a budget" .. what kind of budget? most performance gains on an exhaust are made close to the engine, so either a high flow cat or extractors are your best bet.. both fairly expensive tho. depending on what your air intake is like, you might want to tweak that, but most modern cars just need a better panel filter dropped in, possibly some cold air induction

edit: I do not post too much.
this is what's called "thesis avoidance therapy"

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Re: Hi Flow Cat / Upgrading Induction System Wed, 10 September 2003 00:57 Go to previous message
lol, well with the system right, I hate the noise of a big exhaust, but right now I have a K&N Panel with Cold Air as well as extractors, and I was thinking, well heck, till I decide to bite the bullet and spend $850 on an exhaust system why not have a hi-flow stuck in and enjoy the small performance gain from a high flow.

but my exhaust goes - Extractors -> origional pipe with oxy sensor on it -> stainless flex pipe -> cat -> rest of exhaust -> stock muffler

what do you reckon 'bout a hi-flow?

I should be at uni now Confused
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