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Gearbox Problems
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Wed, 10 September 2003 01:25
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Gearbox and bellhousing Formerly thought to be a TA22 as it bolts up with all holes in the right place however I have tried to fit a couple of TA22 Celica Clutch forks and none fitted.
What other options are there?
any other Gearboxes bolt straight up to the 2T engine with Mounts in the correct places
Help!!
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I supported Toymods
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south of the big smoke
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May 2002
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Re: Gearbox Problems
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Wed, 10 September 2003 01:38
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i know the sprinter box is slightly different could it be a sprinter T50?
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brisbane
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July 2003
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Location:
brisbane
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July 2003
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Re: Gearbox Problems
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Wed, 10 September 2003 01:47
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i don't think the sprinter geaboxes bolt up to a 2t they are an A series gearbox and they are also shorter than the 2t.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, Western Australia
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December 2002
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Re: Gearbox Problems
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Wed, 10 September 2003 02:34
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Vin, lets try and identify your box? You say the motor is 2T, and the bellhousing bolts straight up to it. This mean you have either a T or G series bellhousing as they are the only one that fit the motor
Does your gearbox bolt together along the length of the body at an angle to perpendicular, or does it bolt together in section, ie bellhousing, gearbox body, extension housing? If the latter, you have a later model style "supra" gearbox (W55/57/58/59 type), if not you have a "celica" split case box.
If it is the split case box, look at the shifter position on the back of the gear box, does it sit right above the output shaft, or 2-3" further forward? Again if it's the latter you have a TA22 box, if the former, it's later model but the clutch fork should still fit and work. Count the number of spline on the output shaft too, if it is a sprinter box it will have 21 or 22 (depends on how you count splines!)splines. Early model sprinter "looking" boxes will only have 20 splines (these boxes have the rear mount shifter too, and are from T18's and other import vehicles).
so what do you have? Have I confused you enough yet?
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Darwin
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August 2003
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Re: Gearbox Problems
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Wed, 10 September 2003 12:58
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The Gearbox is a Three piece box IE the bellhousing, Case and Shifter Housing are all individual componants, The box is also a split case Aloy with the Reverse Directly under Fifth Gear.
The shifter sits Forward of the output Shaft. Unsure spline count will check tomorrow and the Main problem is the Clutch fork is to wide to fit through the Hole and does not allow clearence for the Bolts that hold the Bellhousing to the Box.
Standered celica bearings fit inside but the Celica Throw Bearing Mounts are about 3-4mm too big allowing the whole assembily to flop around.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, Western Australia
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December 2002
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Darwin
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August 2003
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Re: Gearbox Problems
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Wed, 10 September 2003 13:34
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I have been trying from the inside
IE) I have repaired a gearbox before (A Nissan Bluebirds)
The Main shaft before it "forks" is to wide for the hole and the Pivot point is to short so there is no room for One of the Case bolts (I could try filing it out but I don't know what effect that will have
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Location:
Darwin
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August 2003
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Re: Gearbox Problems
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Fri, 12 September 2003 12:03
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Solved Problem
Turns out that the Clutch fork and Throw bearing of the 4A gearbox is a perfect fit.
Any Answers?
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, Western Australia
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December 2002
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Re: Gearbox Problems
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Fri, 12 September 2003 14:58
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a concoction gearbox? IE, AE86 style front half, with a T series back half, if so, I'd say someone has damaged the input shaft before and repaired with similar but not identical second hand parts? I recently pulled an AE86 box apart that only had one tooth left from the many of the constant and input shaft. Maybe this fault happened with your gearbox too?
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: Gearbox Problems
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Fri, 12 September 2003 20:12
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Solved Problem
Turns out that the Clutch fork and Throw bearing of the 4A gearbox is a perfect fit.
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You may have a 3T-C bellhousing (from a T18). I Have both a 3TC and a 4AC/G gearbox here, and the clutch forks are exactly the same, as is the throwout bearing carrier.
Was the original clutch fork that you were trying made of cast iron, or pressed steel?
Does your starter motor fit? Cause Ive had dramas before with different T series bellhousings having two types of starter motor, with different mounting bolt locations.
Cheers
Phil
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Location:
Darwin
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August 2003
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Re: Gearbox Problems
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Fri, 12 September 2003 22:15
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Yes the Starter moter fit's although the standered Clutch slave Cylinder won't (back to the wreckers) the bolt holes on the slave cylinder are upside down (IE the only way you can bolt the slave cylinder on is facing the front of the car??)
Maybe I should have just bought a replacement Box More expensive but less Headache.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, Western Australia
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December 2002
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Re: Gearbox Problems
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Sat, 13 September 2003 00:16
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Good to hear you have the problem solved! How did you damage the original box?
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Location:
Darwin
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August 2003
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Re: Gearbox Problems
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Sat, 13 September 2003 06:34
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Didn't damage it how I bought the Car for $100 bit of a mess but good car for rebuilding as the Body is fairly straight and no rust so for $100 can't complain Thank's everyone for helping
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