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Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Sun, 14 September 2003 22:10
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the title says i'm looking for a 7a motor, or block and crank only. motor can be blown (prefer not spun bearings of course)
also would like melbourne if possible.
ta
T
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Location:
Sydney, OZ
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Wed, 17 September 2003 01:27
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For a 7AGE conversion?? I know of a couple of blocks + cranks up here (could be gone), how much did you want to pay?
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Wed, 17 September 2003 22:13
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johnny,
not a 7age - 8age actually.
been offered whole motor for $550, so it would have to be somewhat cheaper than that!
T
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Location:
Sydney, OZ
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Wed, 17 September 2003 23:55
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T,
The one's here are gone ($250 each), but he does have a complete engine for $700 (low km jap import)
TRS? what do they want for that? last time I got a quote it work out around the $3000 mark (excl freight)! if I knew where to get crankshafts made here, I'd probably get a price on what they're worth and work out a local cost to do it....
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Thu, 18 September 2003 21:52
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bummer!! $250 would have been perfect!
not trs- get it done locally
a properly built 8age wil set you back about $6k - that's with different psitons, cams, argo rods, very modified crank etc. good for 230hp with a flat torque curve.
T
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Location:
Gold Coast
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Fri, 19 September 2003 01:30
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Where does '8' come into the equation Toby?
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Location:
Sydney, OZ
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Fri, 19 September 2003 07:25
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T,
lets know where as I would be very interested in one.... the crank is really what I'm after.
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Sat, 20 September 2003 22:15
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johnny,
it's an 8 because you bore & stroke it out to almost 2L - the weakest link is the crank unfortunatly (unless you want to spend $3k on a billet item of course) so it's limited to about 7,500 rpm
T
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Location:
Richmond NSW
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Sun, 21 September 2003 01:18
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I got an 7afe motor out of my 94 seca rv why u just after the crank what are u trying to build i will most likly trying to get rid of my motor in about a month or two once i finish my 20v conversion and everything is running smoothly. which is probly to late for u. but can u explain what ur trying to do. as i am curious
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Sun, 21 September 2003 21:51
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matt,
what sort of $$ might you be asking for your motor? (could help with 20v conversion too by the way)
on a 7ag (etc) motor, the crank is the weakest link - to incress the capacity you have to do quite a few mods (over $1k worth) to the crank. a billet crank would solve the problem, but it is just another expense.
T
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Location:
Richmond NSW
Registered:
September 2003
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Mon, 22 September 2003 00:44
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T
Problem is that i wanted to sell the whole engine gearbox and wiring for bout a 1000 but you wouldnt need all that and i dont want to sell it indiviualy( i dont think) what do u mean you could help with 20v conversion??? what the hell is an 8age motor from anyway???
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Location:
Sydney, OZ
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Mon, 22 September 2003 01:33
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Toby,
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it's an 8 because you bore & stroke it out to almost 2L
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I thinkn this was meant for steve...
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the crank is the weakest link
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let me guess who said that? Toyosports?  They're wrong! the weakest link is the conrods on the Aussie variant as the crank is billet/forged... how do I know? (homologation papers, rebuilds, etc Conrods are the only thing that has broken in 3 years of running the 7AFE @ 7500RPM in rallys.. broke them in a bad gear change taking the engine to 9,000+ what also stops it passing this is the weight and stroke of the things.(i'm not having a dig at you, T , just letting you know) Well all things aside, I have found a crank (but spun bearing!) no block, an also wanting to stroke my 7A out to 2L, may be a bit of colabritration?
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Mon, 22 September 2003 21:47
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i don't speak to toysports at all. that was from our engine builder, who uses argo rods in his motors - when i was up in nsw last month i looked ath the remains of one of his 8age motors that had been run up to 9k - it did not live.
already know where i can get another crank, just still looking for block (i was told where there was a new one some yesrs ago though)
mat,
$1k not a bad price but too much when all i want is the block and crank!!
we sell silver top 20v motors, and i canget new looms made to run the factory computer.
8ag is a 7af block, with a 4age head, bored and stroked out.
T
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Location:
Richmond NSW
Registered:
September 2003
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Mon, 22 September 2003 23:10
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Yeah i thought it was a good price but new it wouldn't be for u as you don't need the whole thing. It's cool don't need a 20v i got one AE111 blacktop got a half-cut its cool. i was thinking of doing that when first considering to swap the head of the 7afe to a 4age cause its supposed to be really good and everyone reckoned that it will just sit straight on but after a bit of research found out it was a bit more involved i think like the stroke wasn't long enough amoung other things and it would have cost a bit and a lot of converting to do that, or sum thing so instead of mucking around wit that just got a 20v imported which is cool for me 
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Tue, 23 September 2003 21:48
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matt,
no worries. good luck with your conversion.
johnny - you don't happen to have a copy of those homologation papers i coud get hold of do you? (only interested in the engine)
ta
T
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Location:
Sydney, OZ
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Wed, 24 September 2003 05:28
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Certainly do, Be easiest to fax it, You'd only want the engine spec section?
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Location:
Melbourne
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Wed, 24 September 2003 22:00
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hi johnny,
yes just the engine section please!
that would be great - fax no. is 03 9553 4270.
thanks so much!!
T
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Location:
Redbank Plains,near Ipswi...
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: wanted: 7af motor or bottom end
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Thu, 25 September 2003 00:25
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hi jonny, what homologation papers do you have exactly???. As I have a couple of old GpA racers, they could prove handy. Will happily pay for any effort. My fax # is 07-38140955. thanks in advance
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