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18R-GEU intake pipe
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Thu, 18 September 2003 06:23
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I'm finally going to put my 18R-GEU back into my Ra28 on the weekend, I'm going to be using a filter box from an Ra65 but are there any cars that have similar intake piping from the AFM to the throttle body that would suit my application.
Any ideas welcome.
Cheers
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Thu, 18 September 2003 06:30
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I ended up using flex tube which I obtained from a truck parts store. Not ideal but it works and it's easy. 
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Thu, 18 September 2003 06:34
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Flex tube as in stronger air ducting (black stuff with steel belts?), I used this previously and found it tore or collapsed easly.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Thu, 18 September 2003 14:12
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Yeah it's sort of black rubbery stuff with steel wire wound around it. I've been using it for years with no problems.
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Canberra
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December 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Thu, 18 September 2003 23:06
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AS opposed to that you can use the Aircraft grade equivelant it is orange and is called SCAT hose can be found at any maintence facility on any airport just about.
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Fri, 19 September 2003 00:11
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Hmmmm... Ram raid at Bankstown Airport on my way home friday night... 
on a serious note has anyone got a photo of an 18r-geu engine bay (in an RAxx) I need ideas on where to put the afm (like not taping it to a/c hoses)
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Location:
Adelaide and Queenstown T...
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September 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Fri, 19 September 2003 00:45
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what is wrong with the RA65 AFM to throttle body pipe? be worth about $2 I'd say.
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Fri, 19 September 2003 00:58
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Does it fit??
I'll be visiting pick-and-pay-heaps on sat with a tape measure,
I've got some pipe from a supra that I picked up on a whim but the bend in the pipe is too shallow.
I wonder if I could heat and bend that pipe??
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Fri, 19 September 2003 01:02
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Here's what mine looks like:
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September 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Fri, 19 September 2003 01:36
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Where did you put your washer bottle and over flow bottle?
I can't see them in the picture.
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Fri, 19 September 2003 01:40
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Thanks Norbie
Does that hose have connection at the ends for the clamps (ie. an off the shelf part) or is the hose "off a reel" and has cut ends.
Yes this is what I used previously but mine was off a reel and sealing the ends was a problem.
on a side note: how is your fuel setup and how (lifter pump - surge tank - high pressure - rail) and where did you locate pumps (surge tank)?
Simon.
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May 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Fri, 19 September 2003 06:27
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Overflow and washer bottle are mounted on the passenger side. You can't see them in that pic cos they weren't there at the time.
Yeah the hose was taken off a reel and cut to size. It seals OK, just clamp it down real good.
My fuel setup is real simple. I mounted a VL pump in the little compartment in the side of the boot (ie lower than the tank) and connected it to the fuel tank and fuel line using the appropriate adapter fittings and EFI hose. Fuel line and return line is stock and untouched. I don't have a surge tank or a lift pump, and from my experience it appears they aren't necessary at all.
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Fri, 19 September 2003 06:53
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My RA40 setup was like that and I only ever had problems when the tank was very near empty.
When I had the 18RGEU in the RA28 before with the fuel pump in the engine bay I found the car would starve for fuel below 1/2 a tank on corners.
would that be the amount of line between the tank and the pump on the "suck" side?
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Fri, 19 September 2003 10:05
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Probably more to do with the low, flat tank in an RA28, as opposed to the high, tall tank in an RA23. Having an EFI pump in the engine bay isn't a good idea though; they generally don't like to "suck" from the other end of the car.
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August 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Sat, 20 September 2003 04:08
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that makes sense now I think about it. But for the purposes of putting the engine in the car to get it running it served its purpose. this time I'm doing it properly for engineering purposes and I am trying to avoid running fuel lines inside the car thus using a lifter pump located near the tank and a surge tank + efi pump in the engine bay (or inside front guard)
I will more than likely build an enclosure in the rear quarter when I do a full rebuild of the car.
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Sat, 20 September 2003 07:15
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ahhhh!! MY EYEBALLS!!!
That certainly is an orange eyesore! And i thought my engine bay looked tatty  You need to get yourself some darn electrical tape and LOOM LOOM LOOM!
$2.80 p/ roll at jaycar. 
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Sat, 20 September 2003 08:06
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You shoosh WITZL...
The black comming off is just Norbie starting to polish the head, Isn't it Norbie??
And the wiring...well like a fine wine these things take time...
But it sounds like $2.80 well spent
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Location:
adelaide
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May 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Sat, 20 September 2003 10:05
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Hey, goto:
http://photos.yahoo.com/fat_tony99/
for some pics of my engine bay. might not be up to date, but should be some..
I used the flex pipe from the 22-RE AFM, fit perfect.
My fuel setup uses some V8 lift pump at the back, which pumps hi volume/low pressure to my engine bay through a slightly bigger line, into the surge tank which is mounted at the front-right of the bay on a platform on the chassis rail, the hi-pressure pump os right next to the surgetank outlet parallel to the chassis rail on a pump-clip, then straight up to the injector rail, return through the regulator back to the surge tank.
Very small loop of high pressure fuel. this is what i like, and definitely no surging because the tank at the front is never empty and will keep the pump fed all day
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blackRA28
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Sun, 21 September 2003 02:19
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No dissing the Orange Eyesore! 
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Sun, 21 September 2003 02:30
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I wasn't dissing, I was defending.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Sun, 21 September 2003 02:39
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I was talking to Witzl. He should know better!
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
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Brisbane
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Sun, 21 September 2003 23:52
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Yeah yeah, I'll fix it soon enough. Actually I have the $$$ to do it now, I just need to get motivated enough to deal with the deadshits at Repco/Autobarn/wherever and acquire the necessary parts. The people who work at those places are completely hopeless if you're not asking for Ford/Holden parts. 
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: 18R-GEU intake pipe
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Mon, 22 September 2003 03:41
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If you are looking for a VRS kit dude.... GAS MISER is the name of the company who produces them, and AUTOBARN is the retail supplier!
Model number for VRS kit is: GK690S
As for the other parts like forged pistons and other engine bits.... jeebus. The only bloke i would know is the one Rod put me onto.
Graheme Wilkins Performance Engines.
Seven Hills, Sydney NSW
Ph: (02) 9674 2259
NOW GET TO WORK NORBIE!!
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