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fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Sun, 21 September 2003 12:24
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I recently fitted a celicamad boost conroller to my bog stock MZ21 soarer (7MGTE), Fitting the controller took about 15 minutes and was easy as. At first it only made a small difference but definately felt a bit better, after that i turned up the boost 4.5 psi (just before fuel cut) and that made for a little more power, however the most impressive bit was changing the knob that controlls how fast the boost comes on. after winding this in about 3 turns the rate at which the boost came on was incredible. Power delivery was a lot smoother and the controller made the car a lot nicer to drive, (also the extra psi was good). I was very happy with this purchase and could definately reccomend it if anyone was thinking about getting a boost controller, (also after looking at the prices of other controllers these ones are damn cheap too), ill be fitting one to my twins next week and ill post up with how that goes too.
cheers. 
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Brisbane
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Sun, 21 September 2003 12:41
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only reason it isnt the next biggest thing since MOMO is that it doesnt have a sticker and the big rice wank...
its nice to see something that really does work from someone local... keep up the good work i say... the man is a genius !
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newcastle
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June 2002
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cronulla
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Mon, 22 September 2003 13:13
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yeh, it was very long in the tooth which is why i blew it to hell, and its now on the ground next to the car. ill let u know next week how it goes on the twins.
thanks again for that mate.
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Tue, 23 September 2003 00:26
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So what makes it a Celicamad boost controller?? the old Ball valve and needle valve $25 pertek/enzed u-bute one has been around sence the 80's
Allan
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Ipswich
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July 2002
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Tue, 23 September 2003 06:48
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Is this a similar setup to what autospeed did with their audi?
I presume it is but with better values?
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newcastle
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June 2002
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Melbourne
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Wed, 24 September 2003 00:54
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*yawn* Grow up celicamad. 
Allan
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PNG
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June 2002
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Wed, 24 September 2003 08:19
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Allan
Rather bad taste to continue to show your ignorance. If you don't know wot you are talking about maybe you should shut up.
Craig
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Wed, 24 September 2003 08:24
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/me scratches his testies
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Wed, 24 September 2003 08:49
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| Cool1 wrote on Wed, 24 September 2003 18:24 |
/me scratches his testies
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what? you scratched his testies?
your getting worse shane... 
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May 2002
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Wed, 24 September 2003 08:54
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Well Craig how about this, I was asking a legitimate question rather then ignorance it was an actual interest in this boost controller that has JAZE happy and you smart asses decide to chip in with bullshit rather then actually constructively talking about the actual boost controller.
I don't really give a shit about what you or celicamad think about me or my cars, your school girl bitching I'm sure impresses each other but really has nothing at all to do with the actual topic that happens to be boost control! maybe you should refrain from posting!
as for the topic I have seen no difference in boost pressure with my 16sec POS 7m-gte auto between gears, the only issue is the first run with a stone cold inter-cooler it spikes 1psi and hits fuel cut as i have it set to 11psi once the engine is at full operating temp it sits happily on 11 with only a slight drop as the engine unloads slightly between gears.
Allan
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Wed, 24 September 2003 09:13
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| feral4mr2 wrote on Wed, 24 September 2003 18:49 |
| Cool1 wrote on Wed, 24 September 2003 18:24 |
/me scratches his testies
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what? you scratched his testies?
your getting worse shane...
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Since you obviously havent been in an IRC channel i'll explain!
If I was in an IRC channel and I typed "/me scratches his testies" and hit enter, the other people in the channel would seen "Cool1 scratches his testies"!
Understand?
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Bundaberg, Qld.
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Ipswich
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Wed, 24 September 2003 12:50
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And why were u scratching in the first place.
You do know that modern medicine can cure that rash???
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newcastle
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June 2002
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Thu, 25 September 2003 11:19
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as for the topic I have seen no difference in boost pressure with my 16sec POS 7m-gte auto between gears, the only issue is the first run with a stone cold inter-cooler it spikes 1psi and hits fuel cut as i have it set to 11psi once the engine is at full operating temp it sits happily on 11 with only a slight drop as the engine unloads slightly between gears.
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some cars may not make more boost in higher gear in fact stock 1j are ok too.
however once you dramtically increase exhaust flow and reduce intake restrictions . even without a boost controller boost can rise 3 or 4 psi in higher gears .
as did my mates 3sgte once the big exhuast with huge dump ,intake and high flow turbo was fitted .
anyone that has fitted a large aftermarket turbo can relate to higher boost in higher gears (in many cases)
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So what makes it a Celicamad boost controller?? the old Ball valve and needle valve $25 pertek/enzed u-bute one has been around sence the 80's
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yes im sure everyone sees this as a genuine interested comment!!
if you have a direct question then ask it .im happy to answer
if you have a smartarse comment go for it! youll only contradict yourself. and you already know im happy to answer those too
if you are genuinley interested in the controller then details are avaible on my webpage
http://home.kooee.com.au/celicamad/celicamad%20boo st%20control.htm
what makes my boost sytem unique is the ability to bring the boost on MUCH faster than stock ( or any other controllers ive seen).the rate at which boost comes on is variable
the large black valve takes care of this .the rest is a simple bleed which simply only controls maximum boost the rest is all controlled by the large black valve
note the small valve at the end is now MUCH smaller and not right angled pic update soon
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Thu, 25 September 2003 13:47
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the performance of the product speaks louder than anything, if this conroller was made from a stick a rock and a used condom i would still put it on my car if it worked this well. ps i have no idea how it works but im sure if it had been available at $25 dollars for any amount of time everyone would have one. i would even have one next to my N/A blow off valve on my commodore. 
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tas
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Thu, 25 September 2003 14:51
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do these boost controllers have long term side affects?
like reduce the life of the turbo or stress the engine more?
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Thu, 25 September 2003 15:03
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thanx for the info, i'm still learning.
i just want my 7mgte to be reliable. sick of it braking down and cuasing me grief.
by the way i know it's abit late, but so sorry to hear about your car draven. i know the feeling well, i had my celica stolen and wrote off, ended up in a dam.
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Thu, 25 September 2003 15:06
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thanks man - I'm over the grief, I just want to get it back on the road in it's next incarnation.
if you re-torque the headbolts on the 7m, running 10psi should cause you no hassles at all (note: I'm not a 7m freak - there are other people who would be much better versed than me)
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Thu, 25 September 2003 15:14
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thanx, i will do that while i am replacing the valve seals. i just hope i don't snap any headbolts.
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Thu, 25 September 2003 15:53
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from memory, 72 lb ft is what's required
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Thu, 25 September 2003 16:02
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I spose i'll have to do the tightening sequence in a few passes? then again it'll probably be ok to just set the torque wrench to 72lbs and do the tightening sequence once.
thanx again.
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Thu, 25 September 2003 16:32
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better to set it to something higher - 90 or so.
tighten to this torque, then loosen, then torque to 72 - or such is the case for some 80s engines anyhow.
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Thu, 25 September 2003 16:53
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shit, 90lbs is a fair bit, do you think these 16yo 7mgte headbolts will handle that torque? i know the ARP headbolts would.
but you know your shit, so i'll take your word for it.
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Thu, 25 September 2003 16:56
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notice the "I'm noit a 7m expert" thing
that's been the engine manual recommendation on the 2 engines I've worked on - but neither of them was a 7m
both were mid 80s tho
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Melbourne
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Fri, 26 September 2003 00:23
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| dingaling wrote on Fri, 26 September 2003 02:53 |
shit, 90lbs is a fair bit, do you think these 16yo 7mgte headbolts will handle that torque? i know the ARP headbolts would.
but you know your shit, so i'll take your word for it.
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Dont stuff around get a set of ARP studs (get a new set as thay can be threeded in with the head siting on NO FIRE WALL BASHING REQUIRED) the old headbolts are probably stuffed by now anyway, (some people say you should never re-use any headbolt) use the ARP moly lube and the torque recomended by ARP (90ft/lbs from memory, with engine oil as lube its 120ish ft/lbs) and you can get the correct washers from a old wedge magna head as the stock ones have chamfered holes that are not arp nut friendly. (BTW Kingchrome make the required tube socket for them)
If the block surface is in good condition a new toyota gasket with a head surface should take care of any HG issues for a long time
I do not suggest 90ft/lbs on the stock bolts guy in the USA had them tested and the limit is 72ft/lbs before thay stretch
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Fri, 26 September 2003 13:35
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Once it has been put together you cant remove the standard gasket and reuse it, fitting studs requires you pull the head off and you will have a lot of fun trying to do stem seals on any toyota GE head without taking it off
Allan
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Fri, 26 September 2003 15:15
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right well since i'm a poor bastard, i'm just going to torque my existing bolts to 72lbs.
and as for the valve stem seals i'm gonna put compressed air in the chamber to stop the valves falling in, and use PVC pipe to compress the springs, don't you worry, i'll have plenty of fun.
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Sat, 27 September 2003 06:48
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Geting them off is the easy part i wana see you trying to get the valve collets back in esp #6
and with the cams removed and doing a t/belt replacement too you can just turn each cyl to TDC aswell just to make shure you dont lose a valve
Allan
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Sat, 27 September 2003 08:43
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this what i'm going by:
"Reinstalling the keepers. There is a small trick
for doing this. This trick was the result of the trial and error
of myself and a friend, so I'll try to explain it as best I can.
Place one keeper in the retainer. Get a friend to compress the spring/retainer
combo as you hold a finger over the keeper. This should result in
one keeper getting seated perfectly right off the bat. With the
friend still compressing the spring, grab the second keeper and
wedge it in place between the retainer and valve stem. Ask the friend
to push down HARD on the spring while you hold the keeper in place
with a finger. You should be able to feel it fall into place. When
you do, get the friend to slowly release the valve spring, and both
keepers should be seated perfectly!"
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Sat, 27 September 2003 09:51
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... and make sure those collets (keepers) have got a bit of sticky, moly-sulfide grease on themselves so they don't slide around and end up in wrong spot.
otherwise when you stuff-up compressing one of the springs and the collet shoots off into the unknown it will stick to something nearby, instead of bouncing off under something unmnovable (like a hot water system) or into very dark (the long grass outside workshop).
of course, all this grease increases the chance of the above happening...
another suggestions was put clean butchers-paper everywhere but your workshop starts to look like a pre-school painting class...
Charles.
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Sat, 27 September 2003 09:53
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man
that sounds like the biggest pain in the arse job imaginable
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Sat, 27 September 2003 12:40
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yeah your not wrong. i hope i can pull it off, as i've never even worked on any engine before, only computers and electronics.
thanx for the tip Charles.
i feel like i've hijacked this thread, oh well nobody is talking about the boost controller.
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Sun, 28 September 2003 13:08
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Another thing to consider is fitting a 3 inch exhaust before winding up the boost this will dramatically decrease the heat and strain on turbo and engine . on any turbo engine the exhaust is the first thing you should change
In fact the controller really only works best with a free flowing exhaust
p.s dont worry about thread hi jacking i do it all the time.
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Sun, 28 September 2003 14:24
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i Just got my boost controller as well off celica mad as well!!!!
my car feels like its got twice the cylinders feels like tourqe has gone through the roof...
ALAN i honestly was thinking "well its just a boost dosn't it" i was in for a freakn shock...that magic black valve is tha shit!!!!!!!!! very happy with this purchase and reconmend to all that want to make their turbo cars hammer!!!!!
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Sun, 28 September 2003 15:46
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dammit
I want mine to arrive already
well, and have a car that can use it
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newcastle
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Tue, 30 September 2003 10:23
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DRAVEN
You should get it within a few days .i'll email instructions plus send a hard copy
MX83toy im glad your so happy .to be honest i always get the same reaction .but thats what i want
i dont blame people for being a little unsure if it works as well as i claim . but the results speak for themselves .
cant wait for you fit a 3 inch exhaust and add some more boost then youll be REALLY happy
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Tue, 30 September 2003 10:31
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thanks paul.
I'll let you know how it goes when I finally get my baby running again
I figure with the big front mount, 3" exhaust, no cat, it should be very nice
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newcastle
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Tue, 30 September 2003 12:34
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yeah should easy get you into the low 5 sec 0-100 .Thats where the boost controller really works .its 1st gear you notice the most
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sydney
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September 2003
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Thu, 29 January 2004 14:25
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so celicamad can you email me details and pricing on your boost controller.also does it work on twin turbo application eg 1jzgte?
thx
email to muzzytt@mail2me.com.au
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Epping NSW
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October 2002
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Re: fitted a celicamad boost controller......
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Fri, 30 January 2004 05:04
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guys, does anyone know what the current web-site is for celicamad's boost controllers? the one in his sig doesn't work, nor does the link provided from it.
if anyone has this address or any other way to get in contact with celicamad [i emailed with no luck  ] i would really appreciate cause i get my license back next week and wanna get hooked up with one of these controllers asap
thanx
hobbs
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