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Re: stradbroke vs fraser island?
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Wed, 24 September 2003 13:36
 
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Fraser is tops for beach fishing!
Go right up north near the light house (east coast)and stand on the sand bar where it literally takes a left hand turn (watch out at 80kmh you can end up in the drink!).
Alternatively, you can go across to Platypus bay (west coast) which is a somewhat estaurine enrvironment
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Wed, 24 September 2003 13:40
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is camping allowed around there?
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Wed, 24 September 2003 13:43
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try www.epa.qld.gov.au and visit their sections on camping.
also, fraser requires 4WD, on stradebroke, is not needed unless you want ot go down main beech or blue lake (closed i think).
also, has been bushfires at stradbroke recently - the y might have limited camping at moment - and probably no open fires at all.
Also 2, beach fishing only on stradbroke unless you hire boat to go out to the rocks.
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Re: NEED ADVICE! stradbroke vs fraser island?
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Wed, 24 September 2003 13:43
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yes, national park, need permit.
REQUIRE 4x4
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Wed, 24 September 2003 13:46
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national park meaning straddy or fraser? Yep 4x4s fine, know someone who can lend me one 
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Wed, 24 September 2003 13:48
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fraser.
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Wed, 24 September 2003 13:51
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fark...how do i apply for one?
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Wed, 24 September 2003 13:53
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you can buy permit on the way at/on the barge ( you shoul alos aske the barge people?)
i think they were trying to bring in online permit applications at EPA but i never looked...
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Wed, 24 September 2003 13:57
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Yeah there is a little hut in rainbow beach that you buy the permits from before yo get stung by the barge operators to get across!
Drive up the beach from noosa, just play dodge the beach goers
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Wed, 24 September 2003 13:57
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on fraser...can you camp where you please?
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Wed, 24 September 2003 14:02
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Nope.
Big signs saying no camping, although there are a few places that you can camp with all the pommy backpackers.
Near Orchid beach is the ideal in my books.
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Wed, 24 September 2003 14:09
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christ, we dont get much to work with! Can you fish where you like?
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Wed, 24 September 2003 14:13
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Yus. As long as you dont put your rods half way up the beach to be hit by cars.
People seem to fancy fishing near the boat wreck at high tide as well, near ELI creek.
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Wed, 24 September 2003 14:17
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ok yeah i spose thats ok, shame its a pita having to pack up each day! DO i just purchase this permit on the day, or do i have to wait for it to be approved weeks in advance? any idea on price? for 3 days...or 2 nites
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Wed, 24 September 2003 14:19
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and before you go, get some long and thin bungee cords, lots of rope, a decent tarp with a reflective side, and a few collapsable poles, so where ever you park/hangout, you can hook the tarp (reflective side up) as temporary shade between vehicle and poles/nearby-tree/other-car.
If there's a few cars (e.g. the beer ute, the food car and the fishin' wagon) you can stretch cheap mesh hammocks between them - under the tarp+shade and enjoy the view (and landcruiser highway that the beach becomes at times).
Charles.
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Wed, 24 September 2003 14:21
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nah just the 1 4x4, and two of us people! yeah have tent and tarps it will have a boot of beer and bacardi 
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Thu, 25 September 2003 10:25
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a lot chesper if you go over from rainbow beach and not harvey bay, try about $50 cheaper
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Thu, 25 September 2003 11:18
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thanks champ..anything else i should know?
How fars fraser from brisbanme?
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Thu, 25 September 2003 12:15
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2hrs of dead straight hella boring freeway
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Thu, 25 September 2003 12:22
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thats good...thought it was more like 3.5-4 hours!
I am also happy to find out october is chopper tailor season
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Thu, 25 September 2003 12:23
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Double check if its fireweed season
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Thu, 25 September 2003 12:24
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fireweed season? 
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Thu, 25 September 2003 12:37
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http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/s116255.htm
Sunshine Coast fireweed threatens sea-life PRINT FRIENDLY EMAIL STORY
The World Today Archive - Wednesday, 5 April , 2000 00:00:00
Reporter: John Taylor
COMPERE: In Queensland State and local government authorities are meeting as we go to air to discuss a worsening blue-green algae infestation in coastal and estuarine waters around Brisbane.
The bloom of lyngbya algae, or Fireweed as it's commonly known, is already affecting about 38 square kilometres and spreading at the incredible rate of 100 square metres a minute.
There are fears the Golden Sunshine Coast will soon be infected. And as John Taylor in Brisbane tells us, it's now a big public health issue with added concerns about seafood contamination.
JOHN TAYLOR: Queensland State and Council authorities are today meeting in Brisbane to consider closing beaches and other emergency measures as the blue-green algae outbreak spreads along Brisbane's coastline.
So far the outbreak covers about 38 square kilometres of ocean in Deception Bay and Moreton Bay, taking in the popular recreational fishing spot of Pumicestone Passage.
The Fireweed, as the algae is commonly known, has been growing at a rate of 100 square metres a minute. At that speed there are concerns it could spread to the tourist meccas, the Gold and Sunshine Coasts.
Exposure to Fireweed or its fumes can blister skin, irritate eyes and trigger asthma attacks. David Bateman from the Recreational Fishing Group, Sun Fish, says it's also harmful to the environment.
DAVID BATEMAN: The extent of it now is absolutely massive. And what it does is it actually deoxygenates the water and it also kills the seagrass by blanketing the light out. So it's a major concern because that area is one of the last major stands of seagrass that we have in Moreton Bay.
JOHN TAYLOR: Work has already begun to clear dead seagrass. The Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service has also stepped up monitoring of turtle and dugong herds around the affected region. And the State Government has issued a warning to South-East Queensland residents to avoid all contact with the bloom.
David Bateman from Sun Fish says it's not the first time Fireweed has bloomed off the Brisbane coast, but never this much.
DAVID BATEMAN: But something seems to have triggered it to make it a lot more massive than what it is at present. And what we'd like to do is see the government put a project up that actually investigates the reason for this expanded bloom. It occurs in Great Sandy Straits and it has occurred quite frequently over the years, but not to the same extent as it is now. And if it continues it'll have a major effect on both the fishing and the economy of that area.
JOHN TAYLOR: What should be done in the short term?
DAVID BATEMAN: Well, in the short term the weed actually washes up on the beaches and it dries out and it goes to a powdery form and children playing on the beaches can inhale this and have all sorts of respiratory problems. But even worse than that, if you're fishing and wading in it, sensitive areas like the backs of your legs or even your hands, and if you happen to touch your mouth or your eyes or that sort of thing you can get quite severe discomfort and swelling and burning and even blisters inside your mouth if you happen to bite your line off or anything like that. So it is very very very toxic algae. And people should be very careful not to - to make sure they wash their hands well and truly if they're in that area at all.
Because you can pick it up on crab pot floats, anchor lines, even get caught on your fishing line when you're winding it in.
JOHN TAYLOR: So there's talk that the Government and local authorities may be moving to close some beaches today. You would support that?
DAVID BATEMAN: Oh, most definitely. At least people should have the opportunity of knowing that it's there. And we've done that on several news broadcasts now and on fishing programs that people should be just really aware if they see any of this fluffy like brown or green algae weed floating in the water to stay well and truly away from it.
COMPERE: A good warning from David Bateman of Sun Fish Queensland, the recreational fishing organisation, speaking there with John Taylor.
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Re: NEED ADVICE! stradbroke vs fraser island?
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Thu, 25 September 2003 12:38
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ok i trust u...thanks for the warning
11th to 13th ill be going perfect to get away from my job for a few days!
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Thu, 25 September 2003 13:36
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fireweed - like blue-green algae - needs relatively calm water i think - the heavy chop on the surf side of Fraser would blow it apart? where it last bloomed was inside moreton bay and the protected passages at Bribie, fraser, etc
i'd be more worried about:
drunken 18 yr olds driving landcruisers up the beach
tourists driving landcruisers up the beach
dingoes 
charles.
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Re: NEED ADVICE! stradbroke vs fraser island?
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Thu, 25 September 2003 13:39
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yes yes thats correct! Surely theres places up there you can buy bait and ice? Anywhere on the island? Or take my own on a slab of ice?
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Thu, 25 September 2003 13:49
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prices on the island are highly inflated
mmmmmm dryice
ah yes, golf club for the dingoes, the locals wont mind if you bash one or two of them
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Thu, 25 September 2003 14:05
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 dont bash dingos! I own a cattle dog cross dingo! Are great animals! How much does it cost for me to go there in a 4x4, camp 2 nights and barge fares?
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newcastle nsw
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May 2002
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Re: NEED ADVICE! stradbroke vs fraser island?
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Fri, 26 September 2003 02:01
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also if you go from rainbow, make sure you go around low tide as youll struggle to get up the other end of the island
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Sat, 27 September 2003 08:10
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also, today's Courier Mail has story about Qld Parks & Wildlife Service banning all open fires in parks it manages so you'll have to bring a gas bbq and enough fuel in tanks.
plus i don't think they allow dogs on Fraser island?
more info from EPA on costs should be here somewhere:
<http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/projects/park/index.cgi? parkid=1>
Charles.
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Re: NEED ADVICE! stradbroke vs fraser island?
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Sat, 27 September 2003 11:29
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frasers a bit of an um and ar at the moment...what is bribie like for fishing/ camping? Is there any camp grounds/ beach fishing or anything...or is it a waste of time?
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Re: NEED ADVICE! stradbroke vs fraser island?
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Sat, 04 October 2003 01:55
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Morten Island owns both fraser and straddie!
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