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abhadi
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4agze & RWD Tue, 30 September 2003 12:31 Go to next message
Just a question, has the 4agze ever been produced in a RWD version?

I plan to turbocharge a 4age engine, but want to use 4agze parts (pistons .. etc.) since they're more designed for forced induction usage ... so is it possible to just replace the 4age engine block with the 4agze one? How similar are the two engines ignoring the supercharger in the 4agze? I'm new at this ^^;;

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Re: 4agze & RWD Tue, 30 September 2003 13:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No the 4agze was never a rwd motor.

I believe a good way is to use the 4agze block and all of its components and (its not totally neccessary) use a n/a bigport head minus the tvis. Bigger ports = better air flow = hmmmmm.

You will also need the use the inlet manifold off the bigport head, i dont think the 4agze manifold is suited for/to turbo applications.

Aftermarket ecu wouldnt hurt either.

There is more to it then this(fuel pump and lines etc,etc) but im tired, and im not thinking straight, so ill let someone else have a turn.


Just my 2c worth.

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Re: 4agze & RWD Tue, 30 September 2003 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm completely in planning stage right now - AE86 with 4agte as a project car ... so to do that, would it be best to purchase an ae86 with a bluetop (bigport) 4age then purchase a 4agze engine without supercharger(and sell of the parts i dont need)? parts in the 4agze will of course be in better condition, or should i just get the same car and buy the 4agze parts which I only require? I'm not sure about this as its my first project car (i already have a car =D) ... can u weigh the pros and cons in terms of quality of parts, cost, allround value ... please (ignore the cost of replacing the parts in the ae86)! Very Happy
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Re: 4agze & RWD Wed, 01 October 2003 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If i was you i would:
Buy a 4agze from a good importer, if you get a bigport gze then get a rwd intake manifold, just a custom manifold to suit your turbo and a aftermarket computer. If you get a Map sensor motor you will need to use the fwd intake manifold and switch the throttle body to the other side. I woldnt use a T50 gearbox either, it will break in about a minute.

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Re: 4agze & RWD Wed, 01 October 2003 02:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GZE STYLE, why use the FWD manifold turned around???
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Re: 4agze & RWD Wed, 01 October 2003 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Recommendations for toyota importers? i'm in sydney ... how much would a 4agze engine cost all up(does it always come with the supercharger?)?
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Re: 4agze & RWD Wed, 01 October 2003 09:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You use a bigport manifold on a smallport motor?
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Re: 4agze & RWD Thu, 02 October 2003 03:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok i see,
but why dont you just use the big port head,
I have about 4 big port heads here so iam guessing there not all that hard to find.

If you place a big and small port head beside each other you soon see how they got their names
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Re: 4agze & RWD Thu, 02 October 2003 03:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GZE-STYLE wrote on Wed, 01 October 2003 10:44

If i was you i would:
if you get a bigport gze then get a rwd intake manifold,



4agzes only came in small port,

edit: there u go i stand corrected

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moo4AGZETA22
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Re: 4agze & RWD Thu, 02 October 2003 05:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
AE 92 and MR2 4AGZE's are big port. If its got an airflow meter, it's bigport.
I've put a MR2 4AGZE in my Celica, and it's an easy conversion. Only fiddly bits are the water outlet at the back of the head, and the engine mounts.

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SLY16V
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Re: 4agze & RWD Thu, 02 October 2003 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hey, um why not just use a map sensor 4agze block,piss the small port head off and use 4age big port head with a rwd intake manifold off a import ae86 motor as the standard intake manifold are bodgy and restrictive...and if you goin to turbo it like you are i would use full forged pistons not the stock 4agze cerimic coated pistons everything else internally seems to handle turbo-charging fairly well.also a t50 wouldnt braek in a second if you dont slap gears everyday, as MR 20V was using a t50 for a while with a modified 20v and handled that fine. so many people under estimate a t50 but they do the job if driven properly...
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Re: 4agze & RWD Thu, 02 October 2003 13:31 Go to previous message
yep moo4AGZETA22 is correct, AW11 gze's and early AE92 with afm and DLI were the bigport versions, with the later ae92 map sensor and ae101's were the smallport versions.... I wouldnt bother putting the bigport head on the gze, though i would use the bigport cams and they have slightly more lift and duration...
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