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Truzeno
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3tgte: What is it out of, and stats? Fri, 10 October 2003 06:04 Go to next message
Purple Sprinter for sale thread:
"OR $5000 with a 3tgte conversion performed by anthony kellam.
conversion includes all the stuff necessary w/ 7mgte front mount intercooler. 3tgte is from a half cut in good condition with lowish k's from what i was told. Will get pics sometime this weekend."


Just curious what a 3tgte is out of (model and year)and what its stats are (capacity, output etc).
Straight forward conversion into a sprinter and is it engineerable?

While ya there cna you do the same for these engines (model and engineerable?).
18R-GEU, 1G-GTE, 7M-GTE

Thanks, my knowledge is only a limited amount on ag veriants when it comes to Toyota engines.

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Re: 3tgte: What is it out of, and stats? Fri, 10 October 2003 06:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The 3t-gte is a 1.8ltr, twin cam, 8 valve, turbo. makes around 160hp in stock form.

Mine came from a TA63 Celica (frontcut from jap).

It has a front mounted sump, so should fit the xmember in AE86 fine. As for mounts and stuff I dont know.

If you go to the 'Links' on the Toymods menu down the side, there is a web site there that lists all the toyota engines and their power figures.

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Re: 3tgte: What is it out of, and stats? Fri, 10 October 2003 13:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i got a ae86 with a 3tgte

when she was prity stock and running about7-8psi went like hell on fire, destroyed quite a few cars 0-100 Smile

but yer u will engine up spending about 12,000 if u want more and mroe and more which u will Smile

mine should b putten out around 350hp now hopeflully Smile
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Re: 3tgte: What is it out of, and stats? Fri, 10 October 2003 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
7m-gte is not engineerable in the ae86 - too much displacement.
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Re: 3tgte: What is it out of, and stats? Fri, 10 October 2003 14:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yep 160HP standard with 7.5psi boost. They came from 82-83 Celica GT's, Corona GT's, and Carina GT's
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Re: 3tgte: What is it out of, and stats? Fri, 10 October 2003 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My cousin had one out of a 1985 Celica from Japan RWD that he put in his ta22 Smile
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Re: 3tgte: What is it out of, and stats? Fri, 10 October 2003 17:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ooh interesting, Any disadvantages with this engine.
Would it be more worthwhile than a gze or a gze with a turbo conversion?
Is it a heavy engine?
Bah Im gunna go check the stats.. thnx !
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Re: 3tgte: What is it out of, and stats? Sat, 11 October 2003 01:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
3TGTE disadvantages:

Its physically bigger than the 4AGE (by quite a large amount!) and therefore heavier.

Parts are getting harder to source, and can be expensive

Stock turbo is far from an engineering masterpiece

Factory computer is a very old analogue fuel only design

Throttle body faces across the top of the motor, making plumbing for an intercooler a bit more difficult
Twin spark distributor makes it a pain in the ass to change to a front mounted throttle body, its bloody huge! Confused

Cam chain drive system is noisier (and in my opinion less reliable) than the 4AG belt drive. (4AG has a non interference head so if you do bust a belt, no damage will be done)

3TG requires custom engine mounts to be fabricated.

Pistons WILL break if you do not have the engine management tuned perfectly. Detonation kills these engines very fast.

4AGTE/ZE disadvantages:

Difficult to source a strong RWD gearbox

Have to fabricate an exhaust manifold to mount a turbo

4AG advantages: Too many to list. Smile

I am not biased, I have built and owned both packages in my car. To me the results are clear Razz We are talking about nearly 10 years difference in engineering between these motors, but dont be discouraged, if you want a 3TGTE, they can be built to run reliably and make good power.

cheers
Phil

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Re: 3tgte: What is it out of, and stats? Sat, 11 October 2003 02:51 Go to previous message
Yep, in a Sprinter, I'd go a 4A derivitive over a 3TGTE any day!
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