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hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 03:31 Go to next message
can someone help me Rolling Eyes

1. is it worth hi flowing the standard turbo on my MR2 turbo 1993 model?
2. will it make a big difference?
3. how much should i be expecting to pay?
4. do i need to touch the computer after hi flowing?

i have full exhaust system & not really keen on changing the turbo.

any other comments you have to make

thanks

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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 04:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MRTWOSUM wrote on Sat, 11 October 2003 13:31

can someone help me Rolling Eyes

1. is it worth hi flowing the standard turbo on my MR2 turbo 1993 model?

Depends on what you want from the car!
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2. will it make a big difference?

Yes
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3. how much should i be expecting to pay?

$1100 was a price I was quoted a while ago!
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4. do i need to touch the computer after hi flowing?

If you want to crank up the boost you will!

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i have full exhaust system & not really keen on changing the turbo.

any other comments you have to make

thanks

If you pm boost he had one for sale a while ago if I remember correctly Rolling Eyes
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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 07:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if ya highflow the ct26 what is safe to pump the boost up too? i have a FCD

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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 08:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I would normally say 15psi but my cousin says if you have a fuel cut defender 50psi is okay.

Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer. Rolling Eyes

You sound like you don't know what you're doing. Even if you do, you should still be getting the boost turned up on a dyno so that you can monitor the air fuel ratios.
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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 09:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
not gunna waste my breath

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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 09:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i dont really want the car to do 12's or anything like that, i just want maybe a low 13 second pass and ill be happy.

would i be able to crank the boost up to about 17psi safely?

at the moment im running 14psi

i dont really wanna touch the computer. i found after putting the exhaust on my car is running really rich!! (280km full tank). is this normal? maybe hi flowing may solve that problem coz i can run higher boost, hense use more petrol

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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i think you would be struggling to run a low 13 with a hiflow ct26.
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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 14:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
A HiFlowed CT26 is easely capable of getting a MR2 into the 12's but the standard ECU fuel and ignition mapping will be a problem . The CT26 to use is a HiFlowed single entry turbo off a 7MGTE as these have a larger exhaust housing and steel wheel but to fit this to the MR2 you will need a exhaust manifold off the ST165 3SGTE and a new dump . I'm running a HiFlowed CT26 with the 7MGTE exhaust housing and putting out 260 RWKW on 23psi .

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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
trevor is that on standard computer?
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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 14:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oz_Craig wrote on Sun, 12 October 2003 00:03

trevor is that on standard computer?

No
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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cheers bigears, so whats safe on a standard computer?
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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 15:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
3S-GTEs have fuel maps up to 1bar (~14psi). I think the post '94 ones have maps up to 18psi?
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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sat, 11 October 2003 22:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://gtfour.supras.org.nz/3sgte%20table.htm
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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sun, 12 October 2003 05:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pre 94 are only mapped to 13-14psi on stock ecu - Group A 185's and 205s can go to 18-19psi on stock ecu ..

more boost would definantly need something along the lines of new ecu - I think Apexi make a plug in unit for the MR2 - or is it powerfc ..

Wolf also have made a st185 ecu plug in unit too - which im gunna look at

If your mr2 has a gen3 3sgte - or later - Apexi make a unit for the st205 that you could plug and play
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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sun, 12 October 2003 10:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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not gunna waste my breath


Reread my post. I posted it for a reason.

Even if you make exactly the same modifications to two identical cars, you are likely to get slightly different results. That is part of the reason I made the post.

A second reason, as I mentioned, you don't really seem to understand the way modifying a car works. 14psi is not 14psi! People dont' seem to grasp this fact.

On a larger turbo (or a high-flowed turbo), 14psi will be a greater airflow than 14psi on a smaller/stock turbo. This means that you may lean the car out too much by running higher boost, and cause the engine to dismantle itself in a manner that is both spectacular and expensive.

So, the amount of boost you can run depends very heavily on the trims you choose for your turbo modifications - and how much air flow is generated at a given boost setting. Boost does not equal power. You may find that with a high flow you can make more power, but not be able to run as much boost pressure as on the standard turbocharger setup.

Detonation is the devil. Get the boost set by a professional on a dyno so that the AFR's can be monitored.

Even then, there are still a lot of variables. The general state of tune, the spark plugs you are running, how fresh your engine is, what kind of exhaust you are running, what your intercooler is, the ambient temperature, the general atmospheric conditions (altitude, etc), compressed air intake temps, fuel setup, fuel type, etc etc etc etc etc

I'm trying to save you from buying a new engine. Think I'm an idiot all you like, but ignore this advice at your own peril Smile

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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Sun, 12 October 2003 23:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
7m hit it on the head if u differenet pressures are different in each turbo 14psi on a ct26 and then a gt30 6 psi prolly equates to about the same pressuredue to the size of the compresser it can spin and generate more air flow = more pressure!!!! more power.... also if ur after a 13.... u will need to change the ecu being a gen II motor... and then high flow with it tuned well and then with little bits and peices you will run ur 13.???.
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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Mon, 13 October 2003 11:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'm glad someone agrees. We'll educate the masses yet.
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Re: hi flow the CT26 turbo? Mon, 13 October 2003 11:23 Go to previous message
but 14psi boost is 14psi boost isn't it? Razz

Its a never ending argument that you just cant get some people to come around to Smile Why not fit a T2 if it can make 20psi? Razz

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