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jza61 cooler	Sat, 11 October 2003 17:20

since the bingle, I'm looking for a new cooler. Ive figured while Im doing it, Ill bite the bullet and do it right. what is the biggest cooler that will fit in a ma61? Ive heard varying numbers, from 500 to 600, x 300 (everyone agrees on the 300) x 75 - 100 which is it? I realise it will depend on the end tanks, but they're being custom made, so they shouldnt provide too much of an issue. Im currently looking at a 600x300x90 - but Im not certain the 90 will fit. plus I cant really measure the distance on my current car, as 1) there's a cooler there and 2) I think it's smaller than it started out edit: and bloody hell it's cold at 4am. I cant feel my feet anymore [Updated on: Sat, 11 October 2003 18:15] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sat, 11 October 2003 23:28

you should prolly PM SUPRAGTE From memory he has a rather large cooler jammed in the front of his ma61 [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 03:15

that'd be tops, except that hes not in the country at the moment now that you mention paul, i think I kept the specs of his cooler somewhere [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 10:22

his is 540mm wide core size, I remember cos mine is 10mm wider It will really depend on the size of the tanks. To go much wider than 550mm would require small tanks. As you can see --> http://iamfrank.ath.cx/19072003/19072003%20001.jpg <-- mine aren't exactly that big. I'm still trying to dig up a pic of when I test fitted it... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 10:34

any major issues with small end tanks? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 10:36

Not much room for deflectors so you might not be making full use of the height of the core? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 10:37

what a bitch 600 is the standard size! bah </rant> [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 10:38

Lemme see if I can dig up that picture dude [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 10:39

all black - I love it nathan I want the same sleeper fmic [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 10:42

Hehe, that was the plan Like I want people to know they're about to get owned Sorry, can't find that pic [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler

Sun, 12 October 2003 12:49

draven wrote on Sun, 12 October 2003 20:39

all black - I love it nathan Smile

I want the same sleeper fmic

err, how about taking advantage of basic thermodynamics as a better reason?? Razz

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 13:02

how long before a thesis is due am I allowed to start crying? from what I can remember of thermodynamics, ideally Id want it silver, yes? absorbs as little heat as possible externally? or am I remembering it in reverse? edit: I think thats backwards outside temp is lower than inside temp, so you'd want it darker that makes more sense. I wish I were more lucid to do this bloody thing [Updated on: Sun, 12 October 2003 13:06] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler

Sun, 12 October 2003 13:02

ed_ma61 wrote on Sun, 12 October 2003 20:49

err, how about taking advantage of basic thermodynamics as a better reason?? Razz

haahahahah, i've been waiting for somebody to point this out to the norm.
ever wondered why a radiator is black?!@?@!?!?!?!

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Re: jza61 cooler

Sun, 12 October 2003 13:10

draven wrote on Sun, 12 October 2003 23:02

from what I can remember of thermodynamics, ideally Id want it silver, yes? absorbs as little heat as possible externally?

good thing youre doing psych not physics greg Laughing

black bodies absorb and radiate heat the best. whats an intercooler? a device designed to facilitate the transfer of heat from one medium to another, by way of radiation from the core to air... hot inside, cold outside. best colour to radiate the heat effectively? BLACK...

god knows how much people are wasting their time and money squeezing in MASSIVE, brightly posilshed, coolers that will INSULATE their contents really well Confused

i wonder if someone can do the maths for me and calculate the effective cooler size in black required to match the heat transfer performance of these wanky massive bright alloy ones!?!

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Sun, 12 October 2003 13:14

ed_ma61 wrote on Sun, 12 October 2003 21:10

i wonder if someone can do the maths for me and calculate the effective cooler size in black required to match the heat transfer performance of these wanky massive bright alloy ones!?!

if you pay me enough, i'll give it a go, i wouldnt trust the results either Laughing

is it possible to make the INSIDE of an IC black too? hence even more efficient?

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Sun, 12 October 2003 13:14

draven wrote on Sun, 12 October 2003 23:02

outside temp is lower than inside temp, so you'd want it darker

the direction of heat flow doesnt have any implications on the choice and performance of colour. heat will alway travel downhill, black bodies simply increase the effectiveness of heat transfer (in whatever direction)

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 13:15

oi! I corrected myself thank you very much edit: well if external temps were hotter than internal temps of the cooler, youd want a silver one which Ill keep in mind if I move near an active volcano any time soon [Updated on: Sun, 12 October 2003 13:16] [Report message to a moderator]

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Sun, 12 October 2003 13:22

draven wrote on Sun, 12 October 2003 23:15

well if external temps were hotter than internal temps of the cooler, youd want a silver one

if that were the case, an intercooler wouldnt work AT ALL regardless of colour Confused

actually, even if outside temp were say 80deg, that would be your uintake temp, wouldnt it Smile

then the turbos would heat it more (above ambieant as usual) thus an intercooler would once again be useful Razz

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 13:25

point and since turbos are hundreds of degrees..... fine! intellectual debates in my state are like pitting a multiple amputee with sensistive ears against mike tyson in a boxing match [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 13:36

say, greg, hows the thesis going? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 13:38

fubar but I think all will be sweet come morning [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 13:41

so what sort of salvation does the morning hold? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 13:42

by then I will have pulled an all nighter, and all except the final touches should be bloody well finished, or Im going to go nuts [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 13:46

hmmmm.... sounds.....great? ah well, good luck dude, im sure you'll be fine [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 13:48

whens it due? mines due 31st oct [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 13:51

rofl tomorrow hence the ponders 17 hours till its due and hence the stress I only ever complete things at the last minute, but still seemto somehow do rather well. but in all honesty, I'll be satisfied with a credit for this. knowing my luck, I'm going to end up one mark short of a distinction [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 13:57

hehehe, i know all too well about doing things in the last few remaining hours i cant believe yoursis due on a MONDAY!! mines due on a friday, so i plan to be pissed by 5:05pm, and sober up sometime just before work on monday!! ahh, its a weekend i look forward to forgetting!! [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 13:58

I thought ahead no uni tuesday, took the day off work [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler

Sun, 12 October 2003 13:59

draven wrote on Sun, 12 October 2003 23:51

...I only ever complete things at the last minute, but still seemto somehow do rather well....

haha thow good is that!? me and my mate sometimes pull it off too....we turned up to just the required classes first semester, i didnt even open my psych book for the whole term and went into two exams blind...

he did 2 subjects = 2 distinctions

i did 4 = 3 distinctions 1 credit Laughing

so i changed and did a drawing class Very Happy

also, my mate did fuck all in year 12....got a 90 enter score...

i did fuck all and got 69 Confused

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 14:00

Im with your mate there about 5 hours study total for the entire of year 12 90 score which was relatively crap, but I didn't care cause I only needed 85 [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler

Sun, 12 October 2003 14:01

draven wrote on Mon, 13 October 2003 00:00

Im with your mate there
about 5 hours study total for the entire of year 12
90 score
which was relatively crap, but I didn't care cause I only needed 85

hahah you smartarse Very Happy

i needed 55 or something, then changed to a course that needed an art folio Razz

what are you doing at uni anyway?

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 14:05

honours year in psychology at the moment hence the thesis :\ [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Sun, 12 October 2003 14:08

ah, sounds nasty. ill toddle off to bed and let you continue your work... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Mon, 13 October 2003 03:18

Just back at work after 2wks hol's - hence late on the thread. My 300x600x75 FMIC with 'standard' end tanks is now in place - no major body work to fit and I think the pipes will go OK without major cutting into structurally important stuff or battery tray! cheers, Justin JZA61 [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Mon, 13 October 2003 03:19

Justin, Are you able to take pics of what it looks like sitting there? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: jza61 cooler	Mon, 13 October 2003 04:59

JCMF, Yeh, I'm back at work now - so have access to the digi camera again . Will take some pics next weekend. And also of my newly sanded polished and painted (black with red) stock wheels. How I spent my summer vacation .... sucking in aluminium particles ... urgghh! Justin [Report message to a moderator]

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