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Lambolica
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The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 02:31 Go to next message
They say these things come in three's

1. wiring problems - stranded in the dark

2. Brake problems - stranded in the dark

3. A lovely grinding in the engine somwhere - refer points 1 & 2

Coming home from work last night cars was crusing fine, stopped at a set of lights...fine... took off... problems. I heard a slight knocking/rattle as I shifted gears (about 4500rpm) somwhere in the vacinity of the engine/gear box, upon acceleration the noise went away but I took it easy.
the next set of lights the noise came back on deacceleration.
this got worse as I kept going to the point that the noise sounded similar to a truck compression braking or a diff very close to going. the noise goes away when accelerating but come on again once taking my foot off the accelerator. and also dissapears if I'm rolling with my foot on the clutch.

I'm after an opinion on wheather it is safe to drive or not (I was planning to put it in to get the clutch done this week) but I can't pin point if the problem is in the clutch/flywheel (bolts comming loose) or if it's a bearing in the bottom end of the engine (hopes not Crying or Very Sad ) and will the vibrations shake the crap out of the engine?
Can any of you more mechanically minded people diagnose this so I can either pull out the engine and fix it (rather not) or if it sounds like a clutch problem I can take it and get it fixed

the engine went in about 500km's ago (it's an 18R-GEU) d'oh

Help here is apreciated.

Cheers

[Updated on: Tue, 14 October 2003 03:04]

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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 03:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Have you checked for exhaust hitting on something??? Maybe youe engine mount is crook, allowing for the exhaust to move around more.
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
No. It's definately in the engine area and the knocking rises and falls with engine revs

But I will check it.

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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 05:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pull off one lead at a time and rev the engine

if the knock goes away when one of the leads is off
then its that cylinder with the knock


so if u remove cyl 3 lead and rev it and the knock goes away then num 3 has a bad bearing
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 05:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Also, is it getting gradually worse? It is kind of hard to be too precise without actually hearing it, though...

Maybe get under the car with the engine running, and a large screwdriver etc. as a stethoscope, see if you can find it that way..
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 05:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'll try those, Cheers I'd like to pin point the problem soon. I'm still hoping its in the clutch (but I don't think so.)
Any other checks would be helpfull as well.
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 05:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
From the symptoms, it doesn't sound like the engine. It could be the clutch, box, diff or tail shaft but my guess is something is loose. Have you checked the tailshaft bolts???
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 05:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gold28, That's what I want to hear. I'll be doing a driveline check tonight.

Anyone wanna help...I've got some spares Very Happy
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Now...
I'm home I've started the car and the knock is there on start up but dissapears once idleing. did the plug lead thing same symptoms. the engine still feels smooth when I give it some gas butr the rattle comes back again until the car comes back to idle.
I've tried to pinpoint the location of the noise and the best I can do is isolate it to the bottom of the engine toward the rear. I do feel now it is the clutch unless someone tells me otherwise.

Does anyone know a good clutch speciallist in the castle hill area????
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
When pressure is applied the noise goes away, i had a similar problem but i cant for the life of me remember what it was.

When i remember ill let you know.
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sounds very much like a throw out bearing to me, my brother in law gem did the same thing, the bearing wasnt sitting "square" on the input shaft, so it was the input shat that had been worn away, either new box or be built up and then machined flat again {first is easier and cheaper}
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Try letting the car idle, then press in clutch, if noise goes away then its the throw out bearing, might even be the first bearing in the gearbox, which would need a rebuild.

If this makes no difference then you know its not bearing problems and i got no-idea what it is.

Does the motor and/or gearbox leak oil.

Throw out bearings arent dear, $15-$20, but it requires the gearbox to be taken out.

Might as well inspect the clutch and flywheel while your there.

Check starter motor as well, you just never know.

Just my 2c worth

Hope it helps.
Good luck
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Tue, 14 October 2003 23:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Letting the car idle the noise is there pressing the clutch makes no difference.
There are no oil leaks in the engine or gear box.
I'm going to take it to a local clutch/brake speciallist tommorrow (as I intended to to anyway) to get the clutch replaced. I'm happy now the the problem is not in the engine so I'm hping the car will get the 5k's or so to the workshop without wrecking anything.
either that or I'll drop the box myself and just get the clutch and do it myself (but I think this is why I'm having issues)

Awww screw it I'll do it myself
Very Happy
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Mon, 17 November 2003 00:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Finally fixed the problem and she's back on the road again.

I'd really like to tell you all what the problem is but I'll
just say it was the mechanics error. And I was the Mechanic Embarassed

Lesson Learned.

/end of seminar
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Mon, 17 November 2003 00:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well at least the problem is solved dude! Smile

could be worse though... you could have two 18R-GU's that are not happy campers like i do!
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Re: The Thrid F@#king problem Mon, 17 November 2003 00:32 Go to previous message
THE WITZL wrote on Mon, 17 November 2003 11:29

well at least the problem is solved dude! Smile

could be worse though... you could have two 18R-GU's that are not happy campers like i do!


Or 3 18r-c's and no boat to anchor with them....
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