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I supported Toymods
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Berowra-Sydney
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Turbo or Supercharge?
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Tue, 14 October 2003 09:14
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Well that is the question, whats the pro's and con's of both.
Which costs more,
Which requires less engine work?
and what is a safe boost pressure before you would need to install stronger pistons, crank ect.
Personally i think Supercharger would be easier, cheaper and not so hard on the engine.
What are your thoughts?
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Turbo or Supercharge?
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Tue, 14 October 2003 09:28
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Firstly what are you attepting to turbo/supercharge ?
if its the charade - your easiest option would be sourcing a charade turbo motor - and settng that up ..
friend has one in NZ - runs ok - but its nothing compared to my gt4
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Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: Turbo or Supercharge?
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Tue, 14 October 2003 09:32
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er superchargers cost more
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: Turbo or Supercharge?
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Tue, 14 October 2003 09:46
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or you could just sell the charagde - and make the differenced up to buy a st165 or 185 
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I supported Toymods
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Berowra-Sydney
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Re: Turbo or Supercharge?
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Tue, 14 October 2003 10:32
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The turbo charades are a 1L 3 cylinder engine, mine is a 1.3L 4 Cylinder engine, I would like to turbo my car that way when people look at it they just see it as a standard charade with wheels and exhaust and no idea whats under the bonnet.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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Re: Turbo or Supercharge?
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Tue, 14 October 2003 10:39
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Umm, with the bonnet closed it'd take a keen ear to work out what exactly is under the bonnet...
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: Turbo or Supercharge?
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Tue, 14 October 2003 10:41
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they might be only 1l - but are they built better to handle boost ?
to boost yours - id say youd still need to look at strengthening yiur nternals - unless you were happy with 4-6 psi or such.
Does the cost of rebuilding the motor to suit turbos - justify itself - Or would you be better off getting one with a turbo motor in it ?
Just throwing ideas at you matey - no offence to the charade - they are fun - but my oppinion is therews better small cars within the price range of charade better suited to forced induction ( laser tx3 be one , st165 be another )
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I supported Toymods
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Berowra-Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: Turbo or Supercharge?
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Tue, 14 October 2003 11:10
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The Differance is i already have a charade so i'm not going to sell it to buy myself a thrashed 2nd hand turbo car, i've already spent $3,000 on suspension nothing is standard.
I'm already upgrading the gear box, and replacing the ECU and rebuilding the engine,
Was converting the car to rally spec but changed my mind, and because of that i no longer need to keep the engine close to stock so i thought i may as well chuck a small turbo or supercharger on it,
not interested in making it run on huge level of boost just enough to make it get up and go a little better.
One of my dream cars has always been a GT4, but sometimes you just have to work with what you have aleady got.
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Rosanna, Melb
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June 2002
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Re: Turbo or Supercharge?
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Tue, 14 October 2003 15:25
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I'd say go the turbo.
Advantages - Ability for more outright power, huge choice of turbos, mount it wherever it fits given that you'll need a custom manifold, more common and so more knowledge about them on small 4cyls, can adjust boost electronically.
Dis - Need to make a custom manifold.
As opposed to a SC,
Adv - good low RPM response, can use your current extractors
Dis - Need to mount it up and run a fat belt to it, not very efficient at high RPM, not many small superchargers around (although I could just be ignorant).
Choice of turbo would be very important for such a small engine, so do some homework and ask around.
Hen
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Turbo or Supercharge?
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Wed, 15 October 2003 01:57
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You could run 4psi kind safely on a stock engine. Because the car is so light, that small amount of power difference should make a huge difference.
I'd go with the turbo. Less stuffing around, and it's more efficient.
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vic Castlemaine
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Re: Turbo or Supercharge?
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Wed, 15 October 2003 13:10
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If you have acess 2 a lathe i say go charger then you can play with different sized pulleys but if not turbo there is a good sized ball bering turbo that came on saabs that might suit your engine it goes 2 5 pound stock if your interested ill find out more details on it
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