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Lambolica
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New Camry Tue, 14 October 2003 23:27 Go to next message
Looks like my boss is getting me a Camry as a company car.

what is your opinion of these cars? and what spec is the best for the money?

I'd Prefer a 2nd hand Lexus IS200
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Re: New Camry Tue, 14 October 2003 23:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the new camry was specifically designed for an americans fat arse Laughing just look at the doors on the thing, the car is hideously obese...
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Re: New Camry Tue, 14 October 2003 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes I really don't like them myself, I think if buying new I'd prefer a corolla or new celica.
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Re: New Camry Tue, 14 October 2003 23:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Get a Corolla Sportivo!
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Re: New Camry Tue, 14 October 2003 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hey, now theres an idea!!!

What are they worth???
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shocked Shocked New Corolla Sportivo is about $30K + On Road Costs.

Have to agree with Rob RA40 : new Camry from the rear looks like Barge Arse with hideous oversized tail lights. Front end looks OK though.

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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 02:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wow, you can be choosy?

If so, tell him to get the V6.

Get the rolla if you want a "european styled sports car", (pfft, wankers), or want to become a "mover and shaker" and bonk the bosses daughter. Razz

In the end though, be glad he isn't getting you a commonwhore or a slugna as they typically tend to do.

But tell ya what, if you really can be choosy, tell him you want a BA XR6. Very Happy
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 04:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I wouldn't piss on a ford if it was on fire Shocked Mad

I just test drove a camry sportivo.....
Can You supercharge that engine??

It's pretty much a dog to drive.
I prefer the magna.
I really don't think an extra 5kw over the base model makes a car "sporty".

And I definatly would not pay 43k for one. Shocked
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icon1.gif  Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The flat torque curve makes it seem like it's "a dog to drive", but it's not that slow.

TRD do a supercharger for them, but you pay for those three letters....

It's a nice car. Not what I'd call sporty, but it's a good mix of practicality with a bit of grunt. And the Toyota build quality.
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 05:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Really I found the built quality rather low.
ie I opened the door and the door handle locked open and the door wouldn't shut until I hit it back in.

Once on the move the car had a good pick up, but I wouldn't want to try pulling an excel in one Rolling Eyes

the handling was very flat on conering Very Happy

The flat battery was not a good start, and the sales man knew dick about cars.
Quote: "yeah It'll pull a 1600kg boat out of the water no probs"

Funny a V6 dunnydore can't.
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
corolla sportivo, unless you need the extra size of the camry
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lambolica wrote on Wed, 15 October 2003 14:17

I wouldn't piss on a ford if it was on fire Shocked Mad

I just test drove a camry sportivo.....
Can You supercharge that engine??

It's pretty much a dog to drive.
I prefer the magna.
I really don't think an extra 5kw over the base model makes a car "sporty".

And I definatly would not pay 43k for one. Shocked


Are you sure you know what you want?

Just get a slugna or a commonwhore and be happy when they start to fall apart and/or are in the shop getting a new engine fitted.

Or just go fudge it and get a base WRX. Very Happy
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'd LIKE a RWD Toyota.

But from what I have to Choose from:
Camry 4cyl base model
Exec dunnydore
base Ford
Base model Magna

None of them Have any real potenital or practicle for what I want
ie there is no parking around here for a car that big (I love my celica) and none of them can tow the boat I use.

I'd rather drive my Celica...
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
out of them I'd get the BA, but you have expressed your dislike for all things of the blue oval badge Smile Unbiased however, I reckon the Ford is def the way to go
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes, As biasd as I am I do agree

Oh dear...I feel rather sick now... Embarassed
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ahhh company cars you've got to love em.
I blew the head gasket on an camry like 95 model i went back to work ummm the camry's getting a bit hot i think it needs a service.

heheheh i drove au's,vt's/vx's/vs's,magnas,camrys,pajeros,rodeos,v eradas the most fun was the camry (csi i think it was 2000) i could get it cherpin in the dry id be goin round a corner slap it netural rev the piss out of it and slap it back to first it would smoke up wickedly.

and the rodeo was a drift pig in the wet. Laughing

ahh the memories
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Done the Rodeo thing Very Happy Very Happy

Gotta love the old autos in the magnas...going...going...gone
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sigh, I wish I had a company car to abuse Sad
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 08:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yeah its good but not when your a lead foot like me + driving around perth centre = speed cameras = loss of licence = loss of job Confused Laughing

ohhh well live & learn

I now have 12 points though (lost licence on P's fkn 2 year rule)
and i have settled down a lot since then
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lambolica wrote on Wed, 15 October 2003 16:38

I'd LIKE a RWD Toyota.

But from what I have to Choose from:
Camry 4cyl base model
Exec dunnydore
base Ford
Base model Magna

None of them Have any real potenital or practicle for what I want
ie there is no parking around here for a car that big (I love my celica) and none of them can tow the boat I use.

I'd rather drive my Celica...


Sounds like you could probably use a RAV4 then.

But why hate the falcon so much? It's obviously the most superior one in the list. Smile And I wouldn't be getting a 4 cylinder camry either. I've learnt the hard way that if you have a choice of a 4 or 6, get the 6, as the car is usually, (and does hold true), a larger car more suited to the larger engine option.

But since you require something small and can tow, (good luck you hard to please fellow Smile ), yea, have a look at the rav.
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Re: New Camry Wed, 15 October 2003 23:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I do come across as a picky bastard don't I? Embarassed

My boss sprung this on me yesterday and I really didn't have time to do too much research on the subject of company cars.

I'm trying to justify a $15,000 + salery sacrifice on a car that I'm not going to keep. over 4 years thats $60,000 and I'd rather put that 60k towards somthing worth while.

To clarify what I'm after:
either 1 a big car that can tow the boat I use. (ie holden Ute) As a Ute would be practicle for me at the moment)

or

a small car thats sporty (ie corolla, Is200) that will get me around.

I have been looking at a novated lease where I keep the car at the end of the lease. in which case I'd be pushing for a holden ute as the resale on any ute is fairly good compared to other "fleet" cars or an IS200 (thinks BEAMS)

I still need to sit down and do the pros and cons of getting somthing in the middle (read fleet car) as in the end it get me a reliable car and a little more cash in the pay cheque at the end of the month and the opportunity to pull the Celica off the road for a rebuild.

I suppose it would come down to which of the fleet cars would hold value the best which I think would be the camry and the magna over the ford & holden???
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mmmmm... More thinking. You do require something that can tow and isn't overly large as it was implied before. Smile

I'd be going for a RWD or AWD. And knowing your budget now and you want to keep value, how about a forester GT? You want reliability too, so the last thing you want is a holden right now. Very Happy

But you'd probably have to settle upon a fleet car yea, the camry and the slugna would keep a higher value. But for all you'll want to do (I loath to suggest this), but since there is no AWD camry yet, have a look at the AWD slugna. But you do want reliability. Wink It is a hard choice, but as you said it's not a car you'll be keeping so you could get whatever you wanted and know you'll not have to put up with the usual quirks they develop with age. Smile
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 01:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Problem solved....SS UTE Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Very Happy
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 02:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thats the spirit!
make sure you get a manual!
then go slap a 3" twin system on it Evil or Very Mad
you'll never be late for work Laughing
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 02:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yes... It will be a very good tow car for the Celica...

It'll be going to HDT for some "Treatment"
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 06:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Gee, id be happy with a V6 Camry.

But i like big sedans like falcons and maggies and camrys, so im slightly biased....and boring Very Happy

Dont ever get a commo, they are crapulas Razz
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Actually, I think the Camry looks 20 times better than the new Corolla, even taking into consideration the Camrys barge arse.

New Corolla is for tryhard trendy people.
Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
Just playin Very Happy



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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 07:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah I've never really been a fan of front wheel drives after owning 2 magnas and having nothing but problems

And I've been in a 4wd roll over an haven't been in one since.
I really should get over that Embarassed
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 07:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I would have gone a BA ute but the commodore ute is probably the best in the range. Just as long as you didn't get it in that vomitous green! Tell me you didn't get that green! Razz
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
holden ute ? Smile

towing ???? Laughing AhAha - you crack me up Evil or Very Mad

the holden utes ( bar the original HQ to wb one tonner - THATS a real holden ute ) cant carry poo , they are designed for the new age holden bogan who cant afford a monaro for 2 doors, or jimmy the bundy drinker who wants to go do doughnuts in his mate jonesys back paddock ..

Now THATS being bias !

if you want to tow - get a falcon ute or sedan ( at least their rear can take weight ) or a larger Awd like a cruiser ..

in all seriousness - the holden ute VS a falcon ute - there is no comparison - the ford IS a ute - and has practicality on its side - the holden isnt as good for loads or towing when compared toe to toe ( thats a genuine fact backed suggestion )

have you thought about a hilux V6 ?
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well the boffins at ford who designed the AU utes arent that bright if you get a towball on there the back ftray will smack on the towball so next time you see an AU ute with a tow ball on it check out the ding (i've seen 3 Laughing ) i hope the geniuses at ford changed this for there BA.
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i havent figured out the towball thing - thats one concession - though as a tower/worker - they are the better ute Smile
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i wouldve thought it wouldve been the holden as there are heaps of aftermarket gear for the gen3's, i will admit a worked gen3 sounds fkn mean (the one im thinking of has 580rwhp) but i guess your talking about the suspension side of thing right?
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 09:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nods - suspension wise the holden ute is setup more like a sports car/sedan - ie not for heavy loads ..

they have an IRS setup that really cant deal with big loads ( dunno what the new holden ute is like - im referring to VX and before ) they probably handle a smidgen better than the falcons - but i wouldnt tow a trailer with a car / caravan/ boat with one

the HDT one was a one off - the HDT maloo - you wont see something like that on the road carrying branches or bags of cement Smile
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 09:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
How about the new VY one-tonner?
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
As per before - i was referring to the VX and earlier utes ..

Dunno if the VY is better - id hope so if they are calling it a " one tonner "
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Its reverted back to live-axle...they must've been thinking practicality.
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ahh ok !

see this is where the ford has it

it might have an ancient live axle setup under its bum but it can bear the weight and balance it alot better than the IRS can Smile

this is the pont alot of the commo ute owners have mentioned has been a problem - ie the IRS not able to bear weight - whereas the falcon can - without having tyre killing camber
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 11:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lambolica wrote on Thu, 16 October 2003 11:46

Problem solved....SS UTE Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Very Happy


As for the reasons posted and more, that would have been my very last choice. (Actually, it wouldn't have even made my choice list).

But I hope it goes well for you and you are one of the lucky ones that don't have to keep filling it up with oil or keep getting the engine rebuilt. Smile

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the holden utes ( bar the original HQ to wb one tonner - THATS a real holden ute ) cant carry poo , they are designed for the new age holden bogan who cant afford a monaro for 2 doors, or jimmy the bundy drinker who wants to go do doughnuts in his mate jonesys back paddock ..


Then they have the new 4 door ute for the family man bogan. Very Happy For when they can't afford a stretch limo.
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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 15:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
is200's dont have beams engines
only the JDM RS200 does

they have craptacular 6 cyl's instead

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Re: New Camry Thu, 16 October 2003 23:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would have gone a BA ute but the commodore ute is probably the best in the range. Just as long as you didn't get it in that vomitous green! Tell me you didn't get that green!


No It'll be a series 2 in Cosmo (deep purple)

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holden ute ?

towing ???? AhAha - you crack me up

the holden utes ( bar the original HQ to wb one tonner - THATS a real holden ute ) cant carry poo , they are designed for the new age holden bogan who cant afford a monaro for 2 doors, or jimmy the bundy drinker who wants to go do doughnuts in his mate jonesys back paddock ..

Now THATS being bias !

if you want to tow - get a falcon ute or sedan ( at least their rear can take weight ) or a larger Awd like a cruiser ..

in all seriousness - the holden ute VS a falcon ute - there is no comparison - the ford IS a ute - and has practicality on its side - the holden isnt as good for loads or towing when compared toe to toe ( thats a genuine fact backed suggestion )

have you thought about a hilux V6 ?


I've built up a HJ, HX, WB Holden utes and yes they are a real ute...
As for The VY Ute's Payload Yes It is Crap ( 320kg or somthing like that) but for towing a boat (dual axel and well balanced)
the Ute has the balls to do that.
As for the Jimmy Bundy drinker Crack.... That would be me Embarassed

The VY one tonner IS a one tonner, The Ute is a sedan with a tray.

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is200's dont have beams engines
only the JDM RS200 does


Give me a few weeks alone with one and it would Evil or Very Mad

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Re: New Camry Fri, 17 October 2003 05:07 Go to previous message
Lambolica wrote on Fri, 17 October 2003 09:39

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I would have gone a BA ute but the commodore ute is probably the best in the range. Just as long as you didn't get it in that vomitous green! Tell me you didn't get that green!


No It'll be a series 2 in Cosmo (deep purple)


Purple?

Ok... Whatever FRUITY colour turns you on. Very Happy Razz

As for the green though, I call it lolly green. They look just like a lolly those cars. I have to restrain myself from the urge to lick them. Very Happy

Then we have taxi orange with the mazda 2. How hideous are these new colours lately?
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