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 WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 03:44
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hey people, chasers are heavy mother fcukers i was just wondering if anyone new how or where you go for weight reduction and what exactly they do any info would be great
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c'town, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 03:47
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grand tourismo will give u all the info you need.
I reckon for the chaser go stage 2 weight reduction. 
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melbourne
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July 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 03:49
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oh my god your so funny ha ha ha, i might just add a stage 4 turbo and intercooler.
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 03:56
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Make sure you spend the 50 credits and stick it on that car wash that spins around in circles and makes the whooshing noise!
Dan
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Location:
Perth
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May 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 03:59
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why would you want to WASTE your money on weigt reduction you would only bother if you where draging the likes of Victor Bray, if you really want get rid of your air con thats a good 10-20kg's all up but why bother i say.
stip all you interior just leav your seat and take the dash out cut the roof off forgedaboutit
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Location:
Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 04:10
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I'm considering getting a sport seat for mine, for track days. The stock seat (full BS electric MOFO) weighs upwards of 80kgs. Great reduction if I get a sports bucket thats like 5kg.
I'm guessing that the Chaser has a heavy driver seat too. If the passenger seat is electric, it'll be heavy too.
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Location:
Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Mon, 27 October 2003 04:14
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Depending on how far you want to go with it, but most of the weight in cars comes from the "extras" that are thrown on it.
But it helps to look at the front and rear weight distribution as well. find out the weight over the front wheels and rear and see how far out they are. (usually the front is heavier)
going the full bit the easyist weight reduction comes from fibreglass bonnets, guards etc. But if your dead serious about weight reduction (and don't care about resale) get rid of things like air conditioning, piping and anything that has nothing to do with making the car go. on the interior the easyest is to simply strip the interior clean bar a front seat. If that is too far you can replace the door trims with fibreglass trims, use light weight seats don't have a bit stereo set up. either get one of those pin dick spare tyres or don't carry one.
In my case clean out all the coke cans and bottles (14kg saving) 
removing something small may not seem like much in saving but removing hundreds of small thing starts to add up.
I've done some rough numbers for my project and I'm sure I can get about 70-80kg of weight out of my standard Celica (in race trim) and still retain a nice interior.
1st I'd be looking at the weight distribution and get that even as it makes a difference to the handling characteristics of the car. even rims and brakes can make a difference.
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March 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 09:08
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Mine weighs about 1600kg. It is a bit depressing that I can't do anything about it. With 1JZ in it that makes over 200rwkw it is still slow to get going in my oppinion. Even XR8's weigh less. I'm going to need alot more power and traction to do low 12's.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 09:58
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Are you sure your car weighs 1600kg? Should take it over a weigh bridge 
Don't worry, new XR8's are closer to 1800kg now
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August 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 10:07
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WEIGHT REDUCTION MADE SIMPLE FOR PIMP MOBILES.
Stage 1: Remove hoe from front seat (45kg)
Stage 2: Remove 'bitches' from back seats (100kg)
Thats a 145kg saving WOW! I'd like to see anyone else try this in their car! 
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Location:
Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 10:12
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| BlackSupra wrote on Mon, 27 October 2003 21:07 |
WEIGHT REDUCTION MADE SIMPLE FOR PIMP MOBILES.
Stage 1: Remove hoe from front seat (45kg)
Stage 2: Remove 'bitches' from back seats (100kg)
Thats a 145kg saving WOW! I'd like to see anyone else try this in their car!
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Dont forget about the dead cut up guy in the back, thats another 50-80 kg's
dont need them wheels either...
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Location:
Sydney
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June 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 12:50
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| Jag7799 wrote on Mon, 27 October 2003 21:12 |
| BlackSupra wrote on Mon, 27 October 2003 21:07 |
WEIGHT REDUCTION MADE SIMPLE FOR PIMP MOBILES.
Stage 1: Remove hoe from front seat (45kg)
Stage 2: Remove 'bitches' from back seats (100kg)
Thats a 145kg saving WOW! I'd like to see anyone else try this in their car!
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Dont forget about the dead cut up guy in the back, thats another 50-80 kg's
dont need them wheels either...
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dont forget the 40 odd kilos of gold necklace wrapped around your neck. and the platinum teeth have to go aswell.
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Location:
Mooroolbark, Melbourne
Registered:
April 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 13:58
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Nate.....what ever happened to your CRX with the fully sik bodykit You know my 9 second escort would beat that chaser of urs. And if u wanna reduce the weight take ur momma out of the backseat  jk. U should be concentrating on the tarago with the 2jz, so i can start pimping ur sister 
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Location:
melbourne
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July 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 14:11
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yeh mike you right i'll start working on the 2jz tarago, but hey leave my half sister christina agulera alone, and your mum is a bit old so get her off the bangbus!
and as for your 9sec escort i dont think it withh beat my fully sick oh reh body kit with 22inch rims!!
The chasers weight 1570 out the box standard trim well the jzx100 does
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March 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Mon, 27 October 2003 16:18
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How much and where is a weigh bridge in Adelaide?
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Location:
Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Tue, 28 October 2003 04:12
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i took my car over a truck weighbridge in a grain yard in the country and looked through the window and it came up with 945 kg whci was pretty good
as far a weight reduction
take out both front and rear seats, replace with one bucket
fibreglass/carbon bonnet
lose the spare replace with tyre weld
yeh air con if u have it
thats a start
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Location:
Montrose, VIC
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Tue, 28 October 2003 04:41
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Speaking of pimp mobiles... Guns+ammo weigh a fair bit, try to cut back on the AK47s somewhat - 2 for each person in the car SHOULD suffice! Plus that rocket launcher is adding a bit, too.. Another pimp-tip - the all important system, 4 18 inch subs, 4 1Kw amps and the gold plated wiring really are gonna slow proceedings a bit...
Remember to delete the hydraulics, too! But I guess not having springs has saved, oooh, 3 kilos?
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Location:
melbourne
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July 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Tue, 28 October 2003 05:35
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who ever said that i got a pimp mobile???
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Location:
Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Tue, 28 October 2003 22:14
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I never did  Merely trying to be helpful for those that DO 
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Location:
was adelaide now newcastle
Registered:
February 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Tue, 28 October 2003 22:43
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How much and where is a weigh bridge in Adelaide?
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try paramount browns on cavin road, also worth a try is any landscape supplies shop (ie the ones that sell trailer loads of mulch/soil) there is one on research road at pooraka that you could park on then weigh, then piss off before they realise that you're there, has a nice easy to read display also.
remember though tat these things wont weigh your car to the nearest gram, but nearest 20Kg, and they may not be accurate/callibrated regularly.
matty.
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Location:
geelong
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September 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Wed, 29 October 2003 21:13
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chaser: how bout u look at the moving parts under your hood... a moving part such as the flywheel weighs 7 times it's normal weight 'cos it's moving so fast... simply get a lighter one and you'll reduce a decent amount of weight...
or just get a smaller car that isn't so arse heavy!
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Club Member
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sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Wed, 29 October 2003 22:25
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you could chip out the sound deadener on the floor, theres a few Kilos there.. ive lost about 4kg out of mine allready and still more to go
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Location:
melbourne
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July 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Wed, 29 October 2003 22:45
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hey thanks alot people there was some helpfull stuff.
Hey IRA11Y did you do your avatar in auto CAD?
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Location:
melbourne
Registered:
July 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Wed, 29 October 2003 22:47
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Whoops ahahah i ment chutz_pah lol
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Location:
in a box
Registered:
March 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Wed, 29 October 2003 22:59
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carbon bonnet.
rear seats?
change the front seats to carbon fibre?
lighter wheels.
prob the easiest.
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Thu, 30 October 2003 00:15
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despite the recommendation, I'd be keeping your current flywheel, or importing one from JUN. with the sort of power you're looking at making, you'll rip ALL lightened and most alloy flywheels to pieces.
and Ive seen what that makes an engine bay look like
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Location:
melbourne
Registered:
July 2003
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Thu, 30 October 2003 00:58
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and i wondered why it was a heavy bastard look at all the extra's
TOYOTA CHASER 2.5 Tourer V TRD Sport
Standard equipment
Driver's seat airbag
Passenger's seat airbag
Side airbag
ABS
Traction control <----- yay!
Safe powered windows <---- what they mean by safe?
Additional stop lamp
Door side bar <------ huh?
Climate control
AM/FM radio
Cassette player <---- cassette 
CD player
Powered windows
Powered steering
Tachometer
Central door locks
Keyless entry
Right steering wheel
Leather steering wheel
Tilting steering wheel <----- why?
Alloy wheels:
Front: 16x6.5JJ
Rear: 16x7.5JJ
Front spoiler
Rear spoiler
Powered mirrors
Discharge headlights <----- i have know idea
Fog lights
Anti UV windows
Limited slip differential <---- free LSD
Front stabilizer
Rear stabilizer
Navigation system <----woudl be nice
TV <-----why not very useful
Tilting sun roof
Rear fog lights <-----cant have to many fog lights, rear? what am i trying to blind the opponent after i win? 
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Club Member
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sydney
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May 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Thu, 30 October 2003 01:14
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Hey IRA11Y did you do your avatar in auto CAD?
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its a genuine picture, what do you mean by auto cad??
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Thu, 30 October 2003 01:36
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"door side bar" is I assume side intrusion bars
large chunks of heavy metal in your doors so you live in t-bone accidents
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Location:
melbourne
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July 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Thu, 30 October 2003 01:42
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| IRA11Y wrote on Thu, 30 October 2003 12:14 |
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Hey IRA11Y did you do your avatar in auto CAD?
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its a genuine picture, what do you mean by auto cad??
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it was ment for chutz_pah lol i just wrote the wrong name
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Location:
melbourne
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July 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Thu, 30 October 2003 01:44
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| draven wrote on Thu, 30 October 2003 12:36 |
"door side bar" is I assume side intrusion bars
large chunks of heavy metal in your doors so you live in t-bone accidents
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i wonder why the thing weighs so god dam much!
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Location:
Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Thu, 30 October 2003 02:36
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as for ganstar mobiles, taking all of the crack and other drugs out of the boot would save a good 20 pounds lol
tilting steering wheel: so lanky cunts can get in
discharge headlights: have some gas in em xenon or something
btw is that traction control switchable??
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Location:
Perth
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October 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Thu, 30 October 2003 02:50
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As for weight reduction,
I was going to suggest you take the VVTi 1JZGTE out of the heavy Chaser and put it into an early model Supra or similar. But I didn't say that about your new car, because it might've been rude.
So, that leaves me with nothing constructive to say on this topic.
Good luck with the diet,
Justin
JZX90 Mark II powered Mk2 Celica Supra
AKA: Celica-Sue, JZA61, that damn car of yours
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Location:
melbourne
Registered:
July 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Fri, 31 October 2003 06:09
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| truenosedan wrote on Thu, 30 October 2003 13:36 |
discharge headlights: have some gas in em xenon or something
btw is that traction control switchable??
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yeh the TCS is switchable well kinda you can take the circut breaker thing out like ABS and all the others.
discharge headlights: have some gas in em xenon or something i still dont get it!!!! 
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Fri, 31 October 2003 09:20
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discharge headlights:
Xenon is a gas (duhhh)
the Xenon gas is in the headlights (duhhhhhh)
to find out why, you can use something called
www.howstuffworks.com
or even
www.google.com
if you don't get it after looking at those two sources, then i'm afraid that you will have to accepth that you just don't get it 
mmmm no traction control or ABS at the flick of a fuse.. sounds great!
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Location:
geelong
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September 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Fri, 31 October 2003 23:17
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chaser: nah not autocad... take too darn long
i used 3d studio max 5.0... took 3 hours to get to where i am in the picture...
since posting that picture, i have started from scratch 4 times, attempting different ways of going about things as problems always arise...
the current version i'm working on is further ahead than that, but i havn't sculpted the exact shape of the body as yet.
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Sat, 01 November 2003 00:38
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| chutz_pah wrote on Sat, 01 November 2003 10:17 |
chaser: nah not autocad... take too darn long
i used 3d studio max 5.0... took 3 hours to get to where i am in the picture...
since posting that picture, i have started from scratch 4 times, attempting different ways of going about things as problems always arise...
the current version i'm working on is further ahead than that, but i havn't sculpted the exact shape of the body as yet.
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Ive been doing 3d for about 2.5 yrs...
best way to do cars is box modelling with controlled meshsmooth
heres one i did about 2 years ago using this method.. pretty shoddy.. but the only one that i have a picture online of...
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Location:
Adelaide
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May 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Sun, 02 November 2003 01:47
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that front looks!!!!! that is sweet. ummm can u draw toyots? lol
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Sun, 02 November 2003 02:28
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man
your "shoddy" is my idea of nearly perfect
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Location:
Newcastle
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April 2003
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Sun, 02 November 2003 02:40
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| Jag7799 wrote on Sat, 01 November 2003 11:38 |
| chutz_pah wrote on Sat, 01 November 2003 10:17 |
chaser: nah not autocad... take too darn long
i used 3d studio max 5.0... took 3 hours to get to where i am in the picture...
since posting that picture, i have started from scratch 4 times, attempting different ways of going about things as problems always arise...
the current version i'm working on is further ahead than that, but i havn't sculpted the exact shape of the body as yet.
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Ive been doing 3d for about 2.5 yrs...
best way to do cars is box modelling with controlled meshsmooth
heres one i did about 2 years ago using this method.. pretty shoddy.. but the only one that i have a picture online of...
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shoddy??? until i read the post, i thought that car was real and wondered how u got its so neatly on that black background
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
July 2002
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Re: WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Sun, 02 November 2003 10:59
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thats nothing compared to the supra ive done.. and the ferrari 360 spider thats on its way
spider will be FULLY realistic... that evo was like 2 years ago when i was just learning
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