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Cutt springs
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Sat, 01 November 2003 10:17
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just wondering if any 1 has cut their springs and could tell me how it drives, handles want to know if it worth doing. is it legall and will it get pass rego.
mr ke70
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sat, 01 November 2003 10:25
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Cut springs suck mmmkay!!!
They are unsafe and very unroadworthy!!!
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sat, 01 November 2003 10:28
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ohhh, first use feels so good 
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Location:
Gawler, SA
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August 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sat, 01 November 2003 11:16
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Summary from the last thread of this nature
"just buy some lowered springs you cheap bastard" 
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sat, 01 November 2003 11:21
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fuck me - even my $300 AE71 came with kmac lowered springs, which is saying something about cutting springs and being a tightarse.
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Parramatta
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sat, 01 November 2003 22:46
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i know it tight and all the lebs with their vl do it. just want to know how it handles, drives. so if any1 had cut their springs please tell
mr ke70
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sat, 01 November 2003 23:09
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Given that spring rate is directly proportional to the number of active coils in a given spring, if you remove an arbitrary number of coils from each spring (assuming there are more coils in the front springs than the back - the usual situation), you will alter the relative spring rates of your car from front to back in a major way. This will greatly upset the handling of your vehicle - intuitively, I'd imagine you will make it oversteer. This is a dangerous setup for a street car.
This ignores all the other cons:
1) illegal,
2) voids insurance policy,
3) potentially spring is not captive thru the full range of suspension travel - can fall out at full droop, with catastrophic results,
4) shorter range of travel before hitting bumpstops - this results in a significant change in 'spring rate', resulting in further unpredictable handling, and
5) depending upon the high tech manner employed to cut the springs, the cut spring end metallurgic properties may be altered resulting in premature sag.
These are good reasons why you shouldn't do it. I can't think of one reason why you might want to do it.
Ignore at your peril.
A full set of springs can be had for under $200. You could have your current springs reset to a lower height for around $50. Why would you risk the above?
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melbourne.victoria.austra...
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June 2002
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sat, 01 November 2003 23:16
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what GT said - don't do it. there is NO gain in doing this, actually there are gains - a shit handling car. it might look "fullllleeee sik moite" but will handle like a bucket.
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Location:
Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sun, 02 November 2003 02:46
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that and youd be a complete moron to use cut springs - putting it plainly.. NufF said
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Epping, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sun, 02 November 2003 02:54
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was that therepeutic ed? 
I cant wait for my first chance to steal it from you
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sun, 02 November 2003 05:55
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GT in regards to reset springs, can you choose spring rate or is it completely dependent on the drop you achieve? If you get them reset to a lower height will you be able to keep the original captive height or ie they just compress them down?
Cheers
Wilbo
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sun, 02 November 2003 06:16
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Wilbo, all they do is squash them down a bit to achieve your desired installed height. It does nothing to the spring rate (because you still retain the same number of active coils), so they will still expand out quite a bit at droop and be less likely to need a shorter shocker. Nevertheless, you still should check just to be sure - not the sort of thing you want to find out at speed. The other issue is that by compressing the spring down, you reduce the distance between coils which may potentially result in coil bind before full compression occurs. This should be checked too.
This is why it is best to have specially made springs. People like King/Whiteline etc just make it so easy - they have done all the work - yet we still have cretins who decide they know better and cut their springs.
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Barossa valley SA
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January 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sun, 02 November 2003 06:36
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a mate of mine tried the cut spring thing in his RA23, it sat lower but it was rough as shit, handled like shit and tended to bottom out. he ended up putting the stock springs of his parts car in. when he first cut the springs they sat back in firmly but by the time he took them out you could rattle them around.
%100 of the audience say B, are you still going to lock in A?
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Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sun, 02 November 2003 07:51
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Just cut your springs it handles ful sik 
Seriously don't do it they can pop out and it end's up costing
big bucks in repairs.
This topic has been done at least 80 or more times.
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Re: Cutt springs
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Sun, 02 November 2003 08:17
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I like 7mgte83's analogy
when you come to a forum, seeking more knowledgeable opinions, and *everyone* tells you to pay the $300 for a full set of lowered springs, do you still go out and chop them (despite the multitude of issues listed with doing this?)
I mean, if you've got your heart set on chopping them despite all the consequences, why ask about what it will do?
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ADELAIDE - Lenswood
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March 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:23
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it takes about an hour to do, just take a coil out and give it a go.
for street driving i dont see any harm taking out a coil especially if your using stock wheels caus it wont really bottom out, unless your taking a few passengers, and/or drive in the hills.
taking more then a coil out usually means bottoming out so its up to u if u want to sacrifice ride quality.
and once youve taken a coil out and realise its a fairly poor option then just whack in some cusom rate springs and bobs your uncle.
get some 250-300 pound happening in the front, youl love it.
my custom springs were 120 a pair. so unless your on a superly tight ass budget caus ure a full time uni student or are just tight, it really isnt that much to spend for some handling.
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Re: Cutt springs
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:24
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I was going to flame you, till I read "and once youve taken a coil out and realise its a fairly poor option then just whack in some cusom rate springs"
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: Cutt springs
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:29
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pity thing is tho... do you really want someone driving around on a set of lopped springs - who realises its completely shit, but still cant be assed changing them back, or buying new ones?
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Northwestern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: Cutt springs
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:37
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The RA40 I had a few years ago had cut springs (3 coils cut rear,2 at front). On a nice smooth corner they handled well when conering at low speed. Unfortunatly nice smooth roads don't exist in most states in Aust. and they lasted long enough in my car for me to get some K-macs made up. (approx 4 days)
and looking at some rather interesting holes through the boot on the drivers side I'd say one of them dropped out at some stage and lodged itself in the floor of the boot.
cut at will but the only reason I've ever cut springs was to see how my car looked 2 1/2 lower before I went out an ordered some.
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Location:
Perth
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September 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Mon, 03 November 2003 05:29
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| MR KE70 wrote on Sat, 01 November 2003 21:17 |
want to know if it worth doing. is it legall and will it get pass rego.
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you must be joking...really.
you're a funny man.
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Parramatta
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April 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Mon, 03 November 2003 05:49
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well thanks for the alot for the heaps of info. im not going to cut them now so thanks for telling me.
mr ke70
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Re: Cutt springs
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Mon, 03 November 2003 06:04
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only took 20 posts to get there 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Cutt springs
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Mon, 03 November 2003 06:36
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i recall a similair thread and the poor guy got bombarded with posts
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Parramatta
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Re: Cutt springs
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Tue, 04 November 2003 08:54
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lol. thanks for all ur effort u guys must hate people cutting their springs. cheers
mr ke70
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January 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Tue, 04 November 2003 10:36
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dude, just cut your srings. who gives a crap. If you have an old car, who cares. If you have a car you're going to spend money on, spend it on springs. Otherwise, jus cut them. takes an hour, looks trick.!! We've all done it. And all those ready to pounce, save your fingers, i dont give a shit.
niCk...
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Re: Cutt springs
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Tue, 04 November 2003 10:44
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| FLU77R wrote on Tue, 04 November 2003 21:36 |
jus cut them. takes an hour, looks trick.!! We've all done it. niCk...
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Well i haven't. And for a fucking good reason too!
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Re: Cutt springs
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Tue, 04 November 2003 12:37
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gotta love when 20 people come along and say dont so it - several with bad practical experiences to back it up, and still people say it's ok
*sigh*
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: Cutt springs
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Tue, 04 November 2003 13:04
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| FLU77R wrote on Tue, 04 November 2003 21:36 |
dude, just cut your srings. who gives a crap.
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i do when your dumb ass comes across the median strip having gotten all fucked-up and scatty on a corrugated corner
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schiidneeyyY***
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January 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Wed, 05 November 2003 07:48
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| FLU77R wrote on Tue, 04 November 2003 21:36 |
..And all those ready to pounce, save your fingers, i dont give a shit.
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: Cutt springs
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Wed, 05 November 2003 08:23
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obviously
and you know, when you kill yourself on a powerpole, i still wont care
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Location:
Adelaide
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June 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Wed, 05 November 2003 08:25
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| Callifo wrote on Sat, 01 November 2003 22:16 |
Summary from the last thread of this nature
"just buy some lowered springs you cheap bastard"
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yay i like being quoted, it makes me feel important
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Location:
Canberra
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August 2002
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Re: Cutt springs
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Wed, 05 November 2003 11:38
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| FLU77R wrote on Tue, 04 November 2003 21:36 |
dude, just cut your srings. who gives a crap. If you have an old car, who cares. If you have a car you're going to spend money on, spend it on springs. Otherwise, jus cut them. takes an hour, looks trick.!! We've all done it. And all those ready to pounce, save your fingers, i dont give a shit.
niCk...
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why dont you take the springs out all together....
you'll really look trick then...
tisk tisk tisk dodgy people these days!!!
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Location:
Tasmania
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April 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Wed, 05 November 2003 12:46
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Hi,
I cut my standard springs on my Celica, and they sucked. The car looked cool and that, but it bottomed out, and was very "rough". I then purchased Gabriel shocks and Lovell 2" lowered spring, and the car was transformed.
My springs were cut with an angle grinder  . I do not recommend it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Justin
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Sydney
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April 2003
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Cutt springs
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Thu, 06 November 2003 03:17
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why not just get 4 REALLY fat passengers.. its like resetting ur current springs... for free
petrol bill might go up tho
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Cutttttttt springs
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Thu, 06 November 2003 04:30
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PML
so all those kiddies who roll down George street on firday and saturay nights don't have lowered springs, they just have fat arses?????
heh heh
Cya, Stewart
ps, fark the springs, why not just just weld up the shocks?? give it that go-kart feel......
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Location:
Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Cutt springs
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Thu, 06 November 2003 04:40
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dont stop there though.. why not weld up everywhere there is a bush?
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Location:
Parramatta
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April 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Thu, 06 November 2003 05:05
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lol.cant believe the response.thanks all for ur help. i now wont be cutting my springs just got to save which will be a cunt
mr ke70
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schiidneeyyY***
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January 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Fri, 07 November 2003 02:16
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| ed_ma61 wrote on Wed, 05 November 2003 19:23 |
and you know, when you kill yourself on a powerpole, i still wont care
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i dont have cut springs... ass 
nICk..
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Location:
Melbourne
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August 2003
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Re: Cutt springs
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Fri, 07 November 2003 12:48
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| ed_ma61 wrote on Sat, 01 November 2003 21:28 |
ohhh, first use feels so good
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I don't understand.
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