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 Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:23
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I have a pic of the new Supra Mk V that I found. However I am not able to host it. So if you want to see or if you can host it let me know. Thanks.
BTW it is exceedingly ugly. Gross is a better word. 
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:32
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Done dude.
Let me just say that this is not concrete as yet. But as far as I could find out (after extensive research) this was the one that they revealed recently (apparently).
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:36
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:41
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Scrap the rims and the grille
What powers it?
Atmo 6 of some description?
And when can i put one in my MA61 
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:42
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It'd have to be either a turbo six or a NA 8.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:42
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The grille at least has to go though.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:43
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i was of the impression it was going to be an NA 6 ?? they were wanting drop the turbo for financial considerations...
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:49
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I thought the turbo drop was emmissions related?
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:50
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I have heard both the 6 and 8 being talked about. Dont know yet. And yeah I have heard about the turbo being dropped, which is ridiculous IMO.
If this car really wants to be up there with the GTR etc, it needs a turbo 6. Otherwise it's just going to become like all the other Toyota sports cars and be just window dressing.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:51
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last I heard it was going to be an atmo 6, in the style of the 350z. which prompted supra fans to say toyota should be targetting the r34 gtr, not the 350z 
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:52
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They shouldn't be targetting the POS 350Z. They NEEED at least the atmo 8.
Regardless, if its a 6, its unlikely to be a straight six
Dropping of the turbo would have been to meet California emissions as they go on for a long time and the turbo cars can't meet emissions for as long...
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:55
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Looks like an obese FTO.. Goddamn you Toyota!
Looks like the MkIII Supras retain their value then
cheers
tom.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 03:57
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There is no way they should target the 350z. The niche market is the GTR, supra etc. Totally different types of people will be getting the cars.
Besides, if they target the gtr, then they will be beating the 350z anyway, seeing as the gtr is a better car IMO.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 04:02
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FTO is exactly what i was thinking, lets just hope it performs better than a mitsu 
The people at toyota always amaze me, the 350z is a completely different class to the likes of the gtr and supra, why would you not want to try and create a treu performance car? The supra has always been seen to be the other option to the skyline, why would they want to change that and try and break into a different market? i can understand cost, but shurely they will build some 6cyl turbos to keep the true fans happy?
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 04:03
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If they were to drop the turbo which is what i thought was happening, what would you replace it with
Big $$$ went into the JZ series to be stopped inside approx 8 years of production. (compare that to the M series!) How does one improve on perfection? 
To me it sounds like a big investment to create a totally new straight six series, in fact the economics of it would tell you that its beyond a reasonable option, just use the JZ series.
Can an existing V6 be used.....not that im aware of, a whole new north south V6 would have to be designed from scratch, expensive, however the new engine could be used and released (in a detuned form) in newer RWD family sedans etc, possibly chasers etc. So its a possibility but still pricey.
The V8 sounds like the best option to me, stick a VVTI 2UZ in there and bobs your uncle!! No extra $$ R&D required for the engine, just slot it in!
Ok, so maybe im a tad biased towards the option of the 2U.....but how cool would it be to have one!!!!
And a twin turbo one for the mentally imbalanced 
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 04:06
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Yeah I have to admit that would be nice. 
The twin turbo in the JZ is still one of the smoothest/best twin turbo's around. So I dont really see any reason why they need to change that at all. Just stick that in a newer engine, and hey, presto!
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 05:16
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Why does everyone want an iron-block engine? Get a 3UZ up ya!
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 05:18
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ya it seems people are confused
1UZ 4.0L all alloy
2UZ 4.7L iron block alloy heads
3UZ 4.3L all alloy
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 05:38
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i dont care what is has as long as its fast and competative to r35 gtr
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 05:44
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I'm pissed about the looks too
first thought was "weirdly kitted FTO", which is not a good thing, since the FTO is a cheap and ugly imitation of the mkIV.
*sigh*
and it better either be straight six or V8 - nothing else sounds quite the same.
where's a 3JZ when you need one?
all alloy, TT, vvti, 400bhp!
ok, maybe that's supercar territory, but 350bhp (like the late model vvti turbo 2jz) would do me to start with
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 05:47
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And may i ask what engine will be in a R35 'GTR' ?
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 05:48
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dont know
but I've heard rumours that both nissan and toyota ditched their turbo inline 6, so not likely to be another RB26.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 05:49
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Exactly.
Refer to previous post.
Bye bye RB26.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 05:53
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I heard the 35gtr was going to the v6 line and following on with the vg series engines.. heard it from a number of sources
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 06:24
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This is the engine thats going into the v35 gtr.
Its a vq32dett. 3.2ltre v6 dohc twin turbo
If this thing is going to be pushing 480bhp, i think that even toyota would have trouble making the supra equal to it.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 06:36
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How are they allowed to claim a figure above 206kw?
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 06:39
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I believe that the gentlemans agreement is not a harsh law, it was just mutually agreed on.
The r34 and mk4 supra both had over 280hp but they were officialy said to have less just to comply to the law
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 06:43
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There was no law against going above 206kW, it was a gentleman's agreement between the manufacturers, but a couple of companies like Subaru have already publicly (I know most have anyway) broken it.
How old is that pic? I haven't heard anything about the VQ32 for ages, most sources think Nissan is going to take the simple route of using the VQ35. They want a Porsche beater with the new GTR.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 07:06
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If that pics the new Supra - Ill stick with my JZA80 dream ..
least that Supra soesnt look like Crap ..
bad grill, bad lights , bad rims ..
And yes - Screams FTO .. which in turn - are crap ..
gimme 2jz twin turbs - a nice trd bodykit , and a little tweak here and there
Or a new gt4 from the current Celica Shell
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 07:07
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yeah.. the gentlemans agreement is rumoured to being close to thrown out
i hope the supra matches the skyline.. they will regret it if they dont
whats happenning with the toyota super sports?
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 07:11
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That pic has been floating around on the net for years (literally). It's basically a photoshopped Mk4 with a liberal dash of wild speculation. I'd be surprised if the real deal looks anything like that at all.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 08:55
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| Norbie wrote on Mon, 03 November 2003 18:11 |
That pic has been floating around on the net for years (literally). It's basically a photoshopped Mk4 with a liberal dash of wild speculation. I'd be surprised if the real deal looks anything like that at all.
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i hope you're right. i cant imagine what the new supra would have to look like to beat the JZA80, but it would have to be ferkin beautiful.
and i agree- target the gt-r...the 2jzgte was said to be a better engine than the rb26dett (not toyota biasim either  )....toyota should make a gt-r killer. and make it low and fat.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 09:43
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If toyota release THAT I will slap somebody 
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Mon, 03 November 2003 22:22
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| Norbie wrote on Mon, 03 November 2003 18:11 |
That pic has been floating around on the net for years (literally). It's basically a photoshopped Mk4 with a liberal dash of wild speculation. I'd be surprised if the real deal looks anything like that at all.
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Really?? Well that kinda sucks then. Why is it still the most "offical" pic I could possibly find??? Weird.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Tue, 04 November 2003 00:38
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Because there is no "official" pic yet I guess!
Rule of thumb: if it didn't come directly from Toyota, it's a load of crap. They're keeping very secretive about their plans, so don't expect to find any pics just floating around on the internet.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Tue, 04 November 2003 00:41
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lets hope they are being very secretive of the engine aswell.......................................
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Tue, 04 November 2003 00:51
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True true. I just figured that considering it was supposed to have been unveiled at this years Tokyo Motor Show they might have pics around for it.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Tue, 04 November 2003 00:53
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has anyone noticed how retro that grill looks?
ie: straight from the MK1 supra
it looked good on the mk1 ~25? years ago, but not now
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Tue, 04 November 2003 00:55
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actually the grill similar to the 2000GT, the Mk1 grill was also styled similar to the 2000GT
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Tue, 04 November 2003 01:02
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whens the auto salon?
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Tue, 04 November 2003 04:55
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| Jag7799 wrote on Tue, 04 November 2003 12:02 |
whens the auto salon?
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Next weekend.
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Tue, 04 November 2003 12:38
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i cant wait till next weekenbd then
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Re: Supra Mk V
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Wed, 05 November 2003 02:22
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The front looks like my Bluebird SSS 
Sorry about size, im at work and cant fix it up here
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