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2TGEU into TA22
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Wed, 05 November 2003 08:46
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simple questions: Can I do it myself over a weekend-like time frame.
I have small mechanical exp (more than most my age tho) I have the TA22 and I want to know whether or not you think an amatuer can do it myself. I am aware of a few of the things that need to be done apart from the obvious. This being upgrading the fuel pump for the EFI, modifying the accelerator linkage to cable type. And also complete the wiring of the ECU. Is there anything else involved that could trip me up?
I have an uncle who is an A grade mechanic. I wouldn't mind asking him but I want to know what is involved first.
If anyone in melb has the time to spare for me give me some much appreciated advice. And if anyone is wanting to sell something I might require then let me know, I don't mind if u bother me about selling it. Even if its an entire engine setup !
Another of my uncles has a a truck business (Tiltaway) so I can get access to all the appropriate tools from the workshop, including engine hoist.
The reason I'm investigating installing it myself is I've been quoted $1000 for the manual labour of an engine that is from what I know almost a bolt in swap. So I think the pricing is a bit steep. Whats more they wanted $500 for wiring up the EFI system and sensors. This shouldn't take more than a few hours so time for me to learn I think.
Cheers Jacob, let me know me if your qualified and want to help me out. I'm willing to pay.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 2TGEU into TA22
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Wed, 05 November 2003 09:27
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Doing it in a weekend is a bit ambitious for someone with limited experience. If it was a 2T-G you MIGHT pull it off, but the extra complexity of the EFI conversion makes it a bit of an ask.
Engine conversions should never be rushed. If you're going to need your car by the end of the weekend, don't even think about starting it! Make alternative arrangements and take your time.
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Hornsby, N.S.W
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September 2002
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Re: 2TGEU into TA22
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Wed, 05 November 2003 09:36
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if you do it with your uncle then it would take about a day!!!
it takes less that 2 hours to remove the old motor and even less to have the new one sitting in the engine bay, the only thing that will take time is the wiring and the fuel system, everything else is simple!!! Done it myself to many times!!!! 
justin
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: 2TGEU into TA22
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Wed, 05 November 2003 11:17
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You will need:
- Low-pressure lift pump
- High-pressure EFI pump
- Surge tank
- Various lengths of EFI hose
- Replace all existing fuel hoses with EFI hoses
- Adaptors to join everything together (unless your pumps happen to have the same size fittings as everything else, which is unlikely)
- Wiring for the pumps, including a relay and fuse
Note that you can omit the lift pump and surge tank if you have the later-style fuel tank (ie the upright one). Some claim you need a surge tank anyway, but I've been running my RA23 without one for years now and I don't have problems with fuel surge.
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: 2TGEU into TA22
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Thu, 06 November 2003 22:36
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Depends on also what your 2-3 days span means...
If you can only have the car off the road for 2-3 days due to needing the car to get to work or something, do things that you
can do 'now', while driving the existing engine combo, such as
1. Fit a fuel return line, surge tank if you want etc.
2. Run wires to fuel pump in the boot
3. Install the computer in a suitable location, run all wires that need to be run, hook up igintion relays etc..
4. Do your throttle cable conversion,
5. If the cars going auto/man put in the clutch pedal/resivour now
6. Check the condition of engine mounts, I used the original ones which were OK with the 2t auto, but after putting in a 2t-g and dropping the clutch a few times they ripped apart.. consider getting new ones now, it's a lot easier than changing them later.
Make sure you've got everying on hand, nothing worse than missing a spigot bearing to hold up putting the whole motor box combo in after the shop have shut!
Make a list of things before your start, tick them off as you go. Don't put of doing the bastard jobs till later, cause later it'll be dark and harder and mozzies will be out to eat you and light globes will break, and then you gotta go down to a 24 hour shop to get another one covered in grease and shit and then the guy looks at you wierd etc........ bit of a tangent...
Then, when your ready,
1. Go under car, undo engine drain plug and drop the oil,
Disconnect batery.
2. Same for the transmission
3. Remove centre console, undo the 4 little nuts/screws that
hold in the gear shifter, remove shifter
4. go back under car and undo the tailshaft nuts from the diff (12mm spanners X 2) should do it
5. Remove the tailshaft and put it somewhere safe.
6. Undo the engine mount bolts (1 each side) 17mm?
7. Go under the car, jack up the transmission to support it, then undo the bolts from the crossmember to the transmission mount, then undo the crossmemeber bolt to body. Remove the crossmember
8. also while your there undo the speedo cable from the side of the transmission, try with fingers otherwise use vice grips
Also unplug the reverse light wires from the switch on the transmission (the only wires on it)
9. Disconnected heater hoses, radiator hoses, removing the radiator also stops it from being damaged.
8. Disconnect wires etc. (starter motor fat one too)
9. Put the hoist chains onto the engine, keep the chains as short as possible to get the maximum lift out of it. You want the motor and box to come out together, on about a 75 deg angle (almost verticle).
Guide the engine/trans out. Get someone to lift it over the radiator support panel, then drop it onto a couple of old tires, or over on the neighbours nature strip.
honestly getting the motor out is the easiet bit, all of it's easy, just time consuming.. After everying is disconnected, it takes about 5-10 mins to have the engine on the tires.
If your good with your tools, you can have it disconnected in about 45mins.
Then do the reverse to put in the new engine.
Don't forget to put oil in box and engine!
Should be ok, if you've got any more questions, just ask.
If your competent with wiring you should be fine, or even if your not it's pretty basic stuff, people on here will help out.
Oh yeah, take of the bonnet first!
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Re: 2TGEU into TA22
) Could have greatly used the help !