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Location: melbourne, victoria
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how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Sun, 09 November 2003 01:16
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as above, thanks
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Location: Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Sun, 09 November 2003 04:42
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About 15 seconds
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I supported Toymods
Location: Sydney
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Sun, 09 November 2003 05:02
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I went from 0-180 in my dads stock ST204 in under 20 seconds. sadly it wouldn't go any faster. Keep your mouth shut dASh, I'm serious.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: August 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Sun, 09 November 2003 06:21
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lol sif
sx celicas arn't that fast!
i've been to 220 in a wrx and it took fuken more than 30 seconds... agges... did u time urself or are u just estimating?
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
Registered: March 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Sun, 09 November 2003 06:31
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my ra60 (21r-c) goes 0-100 in about 14.5, so i guess the st185 you speak of (right? or st205?) has a 3s-ge (right?) so i dunno, maybe 8, 9 or 10 seconds??
/end attempt at knowledge
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Location: Epping, Sydney
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Sun, 09 November 2003 06:51
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185 and 205 are the gt-4 versions
0-220 in my supra took less than 30 secs... a lot less!
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Sun, 09 November 2003 07:42
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nods - GT4 to 220kmh took less than 30 seconds I can vouch for that ..
Give it 50 seconds and it probably would have wound itself off the speedo.
i love having no speed limiter
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Sun, 09 November 2003 07:45
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and foetus so you know for next time :
st162 - 3s-ge - FWD
st165 - 3sgte - AWD
st184 - 5s-fe - FWD
st185 - 3sgte - AWD ( like mine )
st204 - 5s-fe - FWD
st205 - 3sgte - AWD
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
Registered: March 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Sun, 09 November 2003 10:19
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Classique71 wrote on Sun, 09 November 2003 18:45 | and foetus so you know for next time :
st162 - 3s-ge - FWD
st165 - 3sgte - AWD
st184 - 5s-fe - FWD
st185 - 3sgte - AWD ( like mine )
st204 - 5s-fe - FWD
st205 - 3sgte - AWD
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awesome, i was about to ask that, thanks
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Sun, 09 November 2003 12:49
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yeah, i counted the seconds. was on a bit of a downward slope (on the way to melbourne at about 4am) but im sure it would have been around 20secs. It probably could have got to 200 but no doubt it would take alot longer. like a minute coz it was hardly moving beyond 180.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: August 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Sun, 09 November 2003 13:28
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well on the down hill of course it doesn't matter
haven't u seen initial d?
peace
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Sun, 09 November 2003 22:50
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Quote: | well on the down hill of course it doesn't matter
haven't u seen initial d?
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Hehe, it wasn't THAT steep.
But in saying that I've seen only tiny snippets of Initial D. I been trying to find Mpegs to download for ages but no success Point me in the right direction?
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 10 November 2003 00:50
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I am sure I could do 0-220 in my car in WAY less than 30 secs. If a WRX takes that long, it's pretty disappointing...
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: August 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 10 November 2003 06:44
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you should be able to dl initial d off kazaa..
well i've been in a fair few wrxs and they don't have that much power top end... top speed is somthing like 240...
i've been in an integra type r and they have killer top ends... just keeps going.. got to 200 in less than 20 seconds i rekonz.. but 0-100 wasn't that fast..
oh well..
peace
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2002
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 10 November 2003 12:18
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maybe its just the gearing of the WRX.
ITR has really good gear ratio.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: August 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 10 November 2003 13:35
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i dunno
but the wrx is pretty fast.. good bang for ur buck 0-100 and quarter times..
hmm now that i think about it i haven't been in many fast toyotas.. maybe an n/a supra and that is shit slow...
peace
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Tue, 11 November 2003 00:09
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Quote: | you should be able to dl initial d off kazaa..
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I use Apple/Macintosh. No Kazaa
Limewire doesn't pick up alot. mostly just MP3's.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Tue, 11 November 2003 00:16
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Yeah Julz.
Although aparently there is a new version of limewire coming out soon for the mac that will pick those up. Nice one.
Actually now that I think about it, it's out now. We use it all the time to dowload movie clips or skits (such as Saturday night live).
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Tue, 11 November 2003 05:49
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Julz, buddy
use Acquisition it is da BESHT mate..
http://www.acquisitionx.com/
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Wed, 12 November 2003 01:00
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Legends!
Thanks for that!
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Wed, 12 November 2003 07:16
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Back to the question - it would probably be over 10 seconds, maybe around 11-12? Its just a two-door 4-cylinder camry remember.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: August 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Wed, 12 November 2003 08:32
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yeah i thought so too...
0-100 would take more than 10 seconds... so how would it get to 200 in 20 seconds? the car isn't that good.. my friends got one doesn't keep up with shit..
peace
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Wed, 12 November 2003 23:22
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Quote: | 0-100 would take more than 10 seconds... so how would it get to 200 in 20 seconds?
| probably because between 100 & 200 the vehicle already has momentum, traction and there would be fewer gear changes (everyone knows time is lost on changes). Good tyres, suspension and aerodynamics also come into play.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Wed, 12 November 2003 23:30
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Exactly. Just like how the runners do 100m in 10 secs, but they can do the 200m in 19 secs. You would think they they would be going slower, and they are, but the momentum that they carry into the second 100m counts for more than the speed they lose.
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Wed, 12 November 2003 23:34
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yeah but in that speed difference you have to accelerate 100klm over a single gear ratio! That is a tall gear!
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Wed, 12 November 2003 23:48
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Well actaully not true. Because, say in my car. I can get to 100km/hr in second gear. That means that the second 100 could be spread over 3 gears, not just one.
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 00:10
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yes true, but dont' the ratios get "less" condusive to acceleration the faster you go.. the whole power-ratios thing? Like I know MY car doesn't accelerate as fast after 100 as it does before.
(I KNOW it is just a 2L, but I am talking about the principle.)
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 00:18
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True true. And it is true that you might not be able to get to 200 in 20secs. It would actuatlly be interesting to find out. How about it?
However my car doesnt slow down THAT much.
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Location: North West Sydney
Registered: November 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 00:26
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Acquisition is NO LONGER the best!
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 00:47
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ACQUISITION is no longer the best! What IS? How is that possible?
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 03:24
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Quote: | Acquisition is NO LONGER the best!
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I just tested it today. My Initial thoughts of it aren't all that positive. Limewire still returned more (reliable) results and alot faster than Acquisition. I still have to play around with it a bit I think.
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 03:31
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Limewire? It is SO slow to load, annoying interface.. BadDude? what do you use now?
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Location: Melbourne
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 05:42
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the celica isn't really that sporty of a car yknow... 100-200 would not be faster than 0-100 i can tell u that much
the car isn't that fast it doesn't have the power to goto 200 so easily.. especially in 20 seconds...
peace
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Location: Epping, Sydney
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 05:49
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Yeah I have an 867 G4 Powerbook. Limewire was slow, Acquisition rocks!
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 07:38
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And not even all FWD Celicas.
Mine is VERY capable of going 200kph +. I don't know the times but it has no problem doing 160+ in 4th.
ESPECIALLY with my "anti-rice induction kit"
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 07:42
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oh .. but yours is different rob - it has the cable tie power !
Ok - lemme specify a little more -
Front wheel drive *s-FE powered celicas
hows that ?
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 07:46
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*phew*
now my celica feels better about itself.
thank you Stuart, I would have had to drive down at 250kph to come beat you other wise.
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 07:54
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dude with those cable ties - youd crack 300kmh!
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: August 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 08:05
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foolz
obviously i don't mean the gt4
obviously a lot of cars can get to 200 but in 20 seconds? thats the question geeze talk about taken it the wrong way
catch
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 09:19
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Quote: | foolz
obviously i don't mean the gt4
obviously a lot of cars can get to 200 but in 20 seconds? thats the question geeze talk about taken it the wrong way
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If your still referring to my claims, I'll remind you that it was 180km/h not 200km/h
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 09:28
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Quote: | Yeah I have an 867 G4 Powerbook. Limewire was slow, Acquisition rocks!
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Hey Rob & Caledwvech, which web browser do you use? do the javascript smiley shorcuts and formatting tools on the Toymods forum work in Explorer?
You think Safari is better?
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Location: Sydney
Registered: June 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Thu, 13 November 2003 23:24
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I find certain things in Safari annoying (such as when you open it up you have to select the web page area, you cannot just type it in), but whenever I use a mac (I work at IBM so have to use them there) I use safari. It just loads the pages a whole lot quicker.
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Location: Sydney
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 17 November 2003 06:25
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Just back on the speed issue. A bit of physics might help to explain why it takes longer to go 100-200kmph than 0-100.
Kinetic energy (the energy wrapped up in linear motion) can be described by the formula KE = 1/2 *M*V^2
KE is not a linear function of speed, its parabolic because of the v^2 term. This means that the car has a lot than double the kinetic energy at 200kmph than it does at 100kmph. This energy can only be supplied at a certain rate by the engine and so it takes longer to achieve the change in speed.
Additionaly, more energy is being extracted from the car in the form of drag which adds to the load on the engine.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: August 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 17 November 2003 07:12
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exactly
lol well i didn't know that.. but my experience with cars says that 0-100 is faster than 100+
foolz... FOOOLZ
catcha
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 17 November 2003 09:53
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on this topic.. an interesting thing, would a 184 be slower then a 162?
because i've never pulled up next to one and I wanna find out
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: July 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 17 November 2003 10:17
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ive got a feeling the 184's are a shade slower then a 162.... the 3sge is a much peppier engine then the ole 5s.
that said my 184 slaps into rev limiter in 4th at about 175ish then still keeps pulling. 200,000k's on the clock and still going strong... good ole toyota tuff
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Location: Epping, Sydney
Registered: April 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 17 November 2003 10:49
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yeah my mate's wife has a 184, and I think the 5sfe, unfortunately, is slower. I mean, what WERE toyota thinking! Putting an "F" motor in a celica!!??
my 162 goes very very well, and I have driven both, though we haven't actually lined them up against each other
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 17 November 2003 12:02
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hehe.. you bet toyota tough.. no troubles with nearly 300km's on the clock my old engine was working fine until i found out it was burning oil due to the lack of piston rings... oops..
but apart from that the 184's were also a bit porkier weren't they?
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Location: Newcastle
Registered: July 2003
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 17 November 2003 23:00
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naa i think they are within 20kg of each other iirc.. they look bigger all around... but they are about the same size... slightly smaller inside actually.
i only know the size inside casue we were haviong a debate about shagging in cars and someone i know witha 162 claimed my 184 had mroe space.. it turns out its got less headroom by about half an inch and about an inch less sholder room.
eheheh
but yeah the 184 really should have a 3sge in there.. its such a nicer motor to drive.
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 17 November 2003 23:32
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I think Japan and some other countries released ST184's and ST204's with 3SGE's. There are a few imported soft tops on the road, I wonder what's under the hood in those.
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Location: Sydney
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 17 November 2003 23:35
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The 184 is definitely slower I think. I just cannot see how they can be faster. Dodgy engine, heavier car.
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Location: Newcastle
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Mon, 17 November 2003 23:50
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i berlieve the st182/st183 (cant rember which) was the JDM version and came with the 3sge. and yeah most of the grey import soft tops are 3sge.. many with 4ws as well.
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Tue, 18 November 2003 00:16
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They're not that dodgy, they're a pretty tough engine.
5SFE are 100kw and have a substantial tourqe advantage, at least over the earlier TVIS generation 3SGE's found in the ST162. Having a F series head keeps it zippy down low too. And with the weight difference being only around 20kg, there shouldn't be all that much between them, at least off the line.
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Location: Newcastle
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Tue, 18 November 2003 00:41
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yeah but the 5sfe feels horribly chocked in stock form from about 4800rpm up... from there is just making noise dome decent extractors and better intake fix it up beautifully.. it not produce much more power they certainly free up the top end a bit.
that said it does still get along alright and is prety pleasent to drive as a daily driver that you can still go for a bash in on the weekends
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Tue, 18 November 2003 13:49
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i have an idea for toyota.
the celica should be a 4wd turbo, or at least the sporty cams (g)... aimed at wrx. (think all celicas = gt4s) less common, more sportscar exclusive thing. no camry motors or anything.
the supra... aimed at the gt-r or otherwise fast-arse sportscars, but still rearwheel drive and fat looking.
just a few ideas i thought, wanted to know what you dudes and dudettes think?
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Location: Newcastle
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Tue, 18 November 2003 21:06
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yeah ive suggested this before
base model awd n/a with a turbo'd awd top model.... problem i could forsee is toyotas awd chasis's have been so boat like i could imagine the n/a awd having heaps of grip but going like a slug simply becasue of the weight
it'd also push its price up considerably which would kill part of its market appeal.
when will toyota australia wake up to themselves and import some decent performance stuff from japan the sportiest thing they sell as current is the celica or mr2.. and whilst they are a bit of fun they arnt exactly big hitters in performance compared to some of their japanese cousins..
at least nissan are bringing in some dcent toys.
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Re: how many seconds does a stock celica sx 90-94 go from 0-100???
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Wed, 19 November 2003 00:24
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It's not necesarily all Toyota Australia's fault
EPA and ADR restrictions play a big part. That's why there's no more 200SX
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