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Location: Helensvale, Queensland
Registered: March 2003
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Engine Conversion Legalities
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Sun, 09 November 2003 07:05
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Hey, I am thinking about putting a 3SGTE into my ST184 celica. I was wondering if anybody knew what process I have to follow in Queensland to make this legal. Would my third party/fire/theft insurance go up much? Would rego or anything like that change?
My car has 266,000km on it, so i want to swap it for a low milage turbo one instead. Also, if anybody has done this or has any helpful links that would be great.
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Sun, 09 November 2003 07:49

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i know ive said it before - but why not save up and get a real Gt4 instead .. It will cost you less overall - and have the brakes/gearbox to match the motor ..
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Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Sun, 09 November 2003 11:35

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Classique71 wrote on Sun, 09 November 2003 17:49 | i know ive said it before - but why not save up and get a real Gt4 instead .. It will cost you less overall - and have the brakes/gearbox to match the motor ..
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Exactly the same advice I'd give too. 
You'd save a fortune by just buying a real GT4.
As Stuart has mentioned, on top of that you'd also have all the rest of the bits such as intercooler, bonnet scoop, suspension, etc, and already legal. Plus it will be AWD and not FWD.
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Sun, 09 November 2003 11:44

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yupyup ..
with all that power you got to be able to put it to the ground and Steer around corners - Gt4 does this very well .. very VERY well in my cars case.
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Location: Helensvale, Queensland
Registered: March 2003
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Sun, 09 November 2003 21:53

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Hmm, i think you guys were right.
I was just thinking about it because then i don't have to worry about trying to sell my car, then finding a GT4 that hadn't been thrashed. Oh, well, better start looking
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Mon, 10 November 2003 00:54

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isaac wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 08:53 | finding a GT4 that hadn't been thrashed.
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hahahahhahaahhahahhaahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahal olololololololololololololo
when you find that ill buy the supra that the same guy hasnt thrashed too!
Allan
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Location: Wollongong
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Mon, 10 November 2003 01:24

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Maybe he's got a spare 5-speed Soarer that isn't thrashed too 
Sounds like a group buy is an order 
I got fed up with looking for a non-thrashed 5-speed. I still don't think they exist, so a gearbox conversion kit is on its way from Japan
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Mon, 10 November 2003 01:42

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they are about - just look for one that hasnt been overly modified - that hasnt has aftermarket shit bolted all over it - and that has a good feeling gearbox .. Also if you test drive it - turn to full lock in either way and do a figure 8 - if you hear clunks - the front CV's are worn and will need replacing - which cost a pretty penny
Mine had minor mods done to it ( boost controller , exhaust ) and its motor is in top order ..
the gearbox has a slightly worn selector fork - but thats to be expected for over 200 thousand KM ..
the bodys straight , i just need to repaint the bumpers and touch up here and there - Interior is immaculate ..
I picked mine up for 11K , and as it stands - is the most POWERFUL st185 recorded at Dyno day ( though that soon will change when justin and anhar , and danny get theirs rolling )
They are about - just be picky
And allan - PFFT to you - My gt4 will be nipping at your supras heels in no time its only 11 KW down on your ma70 - that will change in a month
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Location: Wollongong
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Mon, 10 November 2003 03:33

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Classique71 wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 12:42 |
I picked mine up for 11K , and as it stands - is the most POWERFUL st185 recorded at Dyno day ( though that soon will change when justin and anhar , and danny get theirs rolling )
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Don't forget Gary's GT4...
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Mon, 10 November 2003 07:07

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gary's is a 205 - his is in a different league !
( gee120 you mean ?)
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Location: Wollongong
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Tue, 11 November 2003 03:26

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Ah silly me... Yep, GEE120.
I should stick to talking about Soarers
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I supported Toymods
Location: south of the big smoke
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Tue, 11 November 2003 04:22

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hmm didnt the red grp A run?
what is done to get 110kw? we just put a low km engine in my mates st185 and the 4agze still beasts it!
its running a 3inch exhaust, and slightly uped boost
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Tue, 11 November 2003 05:11

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ahh.. good ol' power to wieght 
There was the navy blue ST205 which pulled around 160kW at all fours....
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Engine Conversion Legalities
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Wed, 12 November 2003 01:29
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mine topped all the 185's for the day - though id be certain they werent running more boost ..
i was about 20 kw shy of gary - which wasnt a bad effort in my thinking - seeing hes got a much better gt4 setup 
i know what hes planning for his car though - and i can confidently say i wont be near him as soon as he gets his motor sorted - its gunna be mad 
nods to power to weight - the 185's are heavy - aboout 400kg more than a sprinter - so it will still beat it - unless the gt4 has been modified to counter the weight ..
id say your 4agze would have a hard time keeping up with a worked gt4 like what garys got planned - quite hard 
personally im aiming for between 185 to 200kw at the wheels ..
i should see it in the 160's hopefully by the end of next year - before camming + bb turbo upgrade
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