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AE86 Arm
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Sun, 09 November 2003 08:34
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Are there any other lower suspension arms apart from AE85/86, TE71 that are similar in overall lenght? To give me a bit of extra negative camber
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cambo
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Sun, 09 November 2003 09:43
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one option is to take the standard ones to some engineering place and have them rose-jointed. this is how mine are set up and allow camber adjustment not just one set length.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Sun, 09 November 2003 09:44
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| EVOSTi wrote on Sun, 09 November 2003 19:43 |
one option is to take the standard ones to some engineering place and have them rose-jointed. this is how mine are set up and allow camber adjustment not just one set length.
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You were meant to get me some photos of these awhile ago 
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cambo
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Sun, 09 November 2003 10:11
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oh yeah i remember.... ok ill take my camera to work tuesday and take some pics, then HOPEFULLY get them developed soon then get them scanned 
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Sun, 09 November 2003 10:12
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| EVOSTi wrote on Sun, 09 November 2003 20:11 |
oh yeah i remember.... ok ill take my camera to work tuesday and take some pics, then HOPEFULLY get them developed soon then get them scanned
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I think you should ask santa for a digital camera for christmas 
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cambo
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Mon, 10 November 2003 06:48
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no i was already planning to get the gf one... that way ive got her a prezie (always hard to think of something) and i get the use of a digi cam whenever i need it
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Mon, 10 November 2003 07:22
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| EVOSTi wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 16:48 |
no i was already planning to get the gf one... that way ive got her a prezie (always hard to think of something) and i get the use of a digi cam whenever i need it
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Very good thinking! You have done well my son
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MELBOURNE
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Mon, 10 November 2003 09:41
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Not sure about new zealand but maybe you should mention that this conversion is highly illegal for road use.
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Mon, 10 November 2003 09:43
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Not in Queenland its not!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Mon, 10 November 2003 10:04
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I think you'll find it's illegal to modify an arm, but legal to replace it with something suitable, in your case something longer for more permanent neg camber.
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Mon, 10 November 2003 11:28
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RA60/65 will bolt in and is 30mm longer
i have a pair if anyone wants them.
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Mon, 10 November 2003 11:30
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| clintgodde wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 20:04 |
I think you'll find it's illegal to modify an arm, but legal to replace it with something suitable, in your case something longer for more permanent neg camber.
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Its perfectly legal as long as it all engineered! In my case my engineer will be doing the modification 
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Campbelltown, NSW
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November 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Mon, 10 November 2003 11:48
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simon rx7
u sure about this if so i will have to look round for them arms
RA60/65 u say??
Interesting........
30mm what would that give u an extra say .5-.75 deg neg camber?
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Mon, 10 November 2003 13:30
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| pannelvan_screema wrote on Mon, 10 November 2003 21:48 |
simon rx7
u sure about this if so i will have to look round for them arms
RA60/65 u say??
Interesting........
30mm what would that give u an extra say .5-.75 deg neg camber?
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yep im sure as i have them in my car atm 
Sigma arms fit also (early ones) but need modifications and therefore wont be legal.
where as the RA60 arms bolt straight in.
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Mon, 10 November 2003 22:40
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If you're after some slightly more serious camber, try MX62 Cressida arms
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July 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Tue, 11 November 2003 01:25
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yeah, what's this arm that you guys are talking about? So I can get them at the wreckers? The outsides of my front tyres are wearing, hahaha...
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cambo
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Tue, 11 November 2003 10:11
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pfft since when is everything i do legal. does it really matter? do you think a cop is gonna check your control arms? especially when in my case i have bigger wheels, pod filter... plus an un-engineered gze. hmmm.
but anyway, took photos of control arms today, got them developed and my friend is scanning them tonight so they should be up either tonight or more likely tomorrow.
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Tue, 11 November 2003 10:42
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Good work mate I owe you a beer
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cambo
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Tue, 11 November 2003 10:55
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well i havent got the pics now so it will prob be tomoz.
when i go up to surfers in january i expect you to drive down and deliver it to my motel in person
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Tue, 11 November 2003 11:00
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| EVOSTi wrote on Tue, 11 November 2003 20:55 |
when i go up to surfers in january i expect you to drive down and deliver it to my motel in person
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If I get my licence bak you have a deal
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Tue, 11 November 2003 11:56
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umm whats rose jointing 
Cheers
Wilbo
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MELBOURNE
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Tue, 11 November 2003 19:46
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None of our cars are legal but when your giving advice to someone you should really give them the whole story and then they can decide.
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Wed, 12 November 2003 00:58
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| wilbo666 wrote on Tue, 11 November 2003 19:56 |
umm whats rose jointing
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A rose joint is a spherical bearing that allows rotational movement, but won't compress like a rubber or polyurethane bush, which in turn allows the suspension geometry to hold it's settings under load. I won't mention that they are also illegal for street use, but as EVOSTi said, when is the last time you saw a cop get on his hands and knees?!!!
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Wed, 12 November 2003 01:51
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Sorry dumb question why would they be illegal ??
Ben.
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Wed, 12 November 2003 02:31
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because while there is NO slop what so ever they incure a large amount of force and are prone to failure.
Get a cracked rose joint on a control arm on a highspeed corner and your propper fuked!
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Wed, 12 November 2003 04:16
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"Prone to failure" 
I run rose joints on the front of my rally car, and back in 2001 when i planted the front side of the car into a mountain sideways with enough force that the moved both chassis rails over about 5 cm to the left, the only suspension damage i had was the big bolt that held the ball joint in bent slightly 
Ben
Ae86 Trueno 4AGE
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Eskilstuna, Sweden
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Wed, 12 November 2003 04:44
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Like most things the rules are open to interpretation by the engineer. So you may be able to get a set of rose-jointed lower arms certified.
If you have any doubts you can always get your camber dialled in with a strut top plate.
Cheers
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cambo
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Wed, 12 November 2003 05:24
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DAMO, if you re-read my post you will notice i said "one option". therefor im only offering an idea from my own experience. before doing such a conversion you would be stupid not to look into it further and just take the advice off someone you dont even know.
Youngy, i was thinking that myself, a strut top plate is easier to adjust and probably easier to engineer.
Cool1, my friend hasnt mailed me the pics yet but ill tell him to get a move on and hopefully have them when i get home tonight.
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Wed, 12 November 2003 06:53
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| EVOSTi wrote on Wed, 12 November 2003 15:24 |
Cool1, my friend hasnt mailed me the pics yet but ill tell him to get a move on and hopefully have them when i get home tonight.
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Thats cool mate.
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Location:
cambo
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Wed, 12 November 2003 11:43
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ok toymods is fukin up for me atm so i dunno if this will work, took me 2 hours just to get this page to load hahaha.
http://au.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/evosti
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Wed, 12 November 2003 12:19
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Thanks for trying but ummm how do I say this This album is currently empty. 
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cambo
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Thu, 13 November 2003 06:33
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| crispy wrote on Sun, 09 November 2003 19:34 |
Are there any other lower suspension arms apart from AE85/86, TE71 that are similar in overall lenght? To give me a bit of extra negative camber
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this might sound stupid but why not use negative RCA if you want extra negative chamber???
http://www.club4ag.com/images/Battle%20Version%20C alatog/DSC00722.JPG
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Thu, 13 November 2003 06:46
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| EVOSTi wrote on Thu, 13 November 2003 15:31 |
what??? thats crap i put them in there last night. this is shitting me hard the world is against me. ill try again so gimme a minute.
ok im getting the shits now, ive never used yahoo before so can someone help me or is there another free place to share photos? i uploaded my pics to a folder and its says i cant make them free for public viewing on a free acount. wtf is the go? i can email them to ppl in the mean time but that takes ages so if anyone can tell me how to host my own pics i would appreciate it.
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It seems to be working now!
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cambo
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Thu, 13 November 2003 07:53
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| LBack wrote on Thu, 13 November 2003 16:33 |
| crispy wrote on Sun, 09 November 2003 19:34 |
Are there any other lower suspension arms apart from AE85/86, TE71 that are similar in overall lenght? To give me a bit of extra negative camber
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this might sound stupid but why not use negative RCA if you want extra negative chamber???
http://www.club4ag.com/images/Battle%20Version%20C alatog/DSC00722.JPG
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because they are a bad idea.... the bottom of the strut incurs a large amount of sheer force.
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Melbourne
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September 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Fri, 14 November 2003 10:20
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Each to their own but I have run rose jointed lower arms on the road and track for almost 4 years with no problems whatsoever. Same for (non-offset) RCA's.
Just my 2c.
Denis
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Sat, 15 November 2003 03:06
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Also running lengthened lower arms you get a large track increase which is plenty sweet. I ran Ae86 lower arm with moly rosejoint max extention was about 25mm. ran on the street and racetrack for about 4months then decided to remove just for piece of mind. I now run an ae86 arm with a 60mmlong piece of 4mm thick box section welded near the base with a large amount of the arm overlapping the box section for strength - this is used in combination with nolethan lower arm bushings and swaybar+caster bushes. Its a very nice setup and i dont worry about it.
SO
Rosejoints are fine no probs there unless you are worried about the fuzz busting yo ass
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Christchurch , New Zealand
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March 2003
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Sat, 15 November 2003 21:35
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Yeah i had a couple of arms off an RA60 Celica my friend gave me, swapped the steering joint over to an AE85 p/s one to reduce the excessive negative camber. It works a treat as my drivers side wheel has a bit much negative camber aswell, but also has stopped wearing the outside of my tyre.
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Location:
Adelaide
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May 2002
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Sun, 16 November 2003 01:58
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Out of curiosity, will the sprinter sway bar bolt straight onto the RA6X arm? If not what will? or is a custom one the go?
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Sun, 16 November 2003 09:02
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everything bolts straight up dude.
as does Sigma arms... but they take a little more work to make fit but close enought o a bolt up job!
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Location:
Adelaide
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Re: AE86 Arm
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Sun, 16 November 2003 23:51
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Hey, Thanks just checking
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