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W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 06:09
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Hi all,
I recently discovered that the transmission I pulled out of an MA61 Supra is not a W58 as you would expect, but a W57. Weird! Anyway it's of no use to me, so I'm selling it. It has no bellhousing or shifter, but apart from that it's all good. Make an offer. 
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W.A.
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October 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 06:41
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what are g/boxes like these worth? incld. bellhousing etc etc
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Location:
Melbourne
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September 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 07:20
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If you go to a regular wrecker they'll want between $400-600.
If you luck upon one at a pick-a-part DIY wrecker (and I have seen them there) you get it for $150-250.
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I supported Toymods
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Ademelaide, SA
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July 2003
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 08:39
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norbie...how much are you after?
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Location:
W.A.
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October 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 10:49
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whats the big difference between the w58 and w57? also can u tell the difference between both by just looking at it?
anyone know what the w57 came from?
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 10:57
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the w58 has a steel sandwich plate (plate between the 2 box castings) and the w57 has an alloy one.
The w57's came out in ra65 celicas, and some supras.
If you can pick the sound of alloy vs steel when you hit it with a screwdriver, you can tell if its a w57/58. ANyway yes its noticeable if you know what to look for!
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 11:20
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Yeah the steel sandwich plate is the difference from the outside. The steel sandwich plate is darker compared to the alloy one.
Inside the difference is a more overdriven 5th gear (1st -> 4th and reverse are the same).
Notice in the above pic that the far left Gbox has a lighter sandwich plate than the one just on the right? W55 / W57 (not sure which could be either?) is on the left and the one over to the right is a W58.
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location:
cronulla
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September 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 12:46
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Toyota made the W58 with a steel sandwich plate and also with an alloy sandwich plate, my celica ahs a alloy plate and the firewall reads: W58, the last time i saw a W57 on the ID plate was on a 1GGTE soarer cut and it had a steel sandwich plate.
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Brisbane
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June 2003
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 13:01
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interesting jaze..because my box is the same..alloy plate and reads w58 on engine plate !
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sydney
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September 2003
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 13:37
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i think its gotto do with actual gear ratios,
w57 and w58 1st gear is same- 3.28
2nd w57 = 2.06:1
2nd w58= 1.89
3rd w57= 1.27
3rd w58 = 1.27
4th w57 = 1.00
4th w58 = 1.00
5th w57 = .86
5th w58 = .78
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sydney
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September 2003
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 13:39
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it would seem w57 is more closer ratios than w58....
what about the w55 and w59 anyone know about these?
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 23:01
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Goto this link ..here.. add you will find that the only difference is 5th gear (not second as well). It also has the ratios for W55 / W5 and others.
Sorry for the hijack norbie....
Cheers
Wilbo
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March 2003
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Mon, 10 November 2003 23:24
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so whats the differ between w55 and w57, which would be the best gearbox for using in a sprinter with a 4agte setup?
sorry for posting this question up here norbie just thought while the discusiion on w gearboxes are goin on i could get this question out
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Tue, 11 November 2003 05:52
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Screw you guys, I'm going home!! 
But before I do, someone asked about the price: I was thinking around the $250 mark.
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I supported Toymods
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Ademelaide, SA
Registered:
July 2003
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Tue, 11 November 2003 08:35
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how's $200 sound?
pm me..
steve
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Location:
Brisbane, QLD
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February 2003
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Thu, 13 November 2003 02:40
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argh!!!
i would of jumped at this....if i didnt have to fork out $600 yesturday on a BHG 
stupid poopra, soooo gonna rip into the dickhead who did my rebuild(and my dad for "making" me get a rebuild)
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I supported Toymods
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Ademelaide, SA
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July 2003
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Thu, 13 November 2003 07:05
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offer is still on the table...all you thread hi-jackers... 
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Thu, 13 November 2003 12:27
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Box has been sold for $250. Thanks anyway.
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Location:
W.A.
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October 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Thu, 13 November 2003 15:35
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so which one's stronger? the w57 or w58 ?
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Thu, 13 November 2003 22:39
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Norbie: How do you know its a W57, and not a W58? What did it say on the plate in the engine bay?
Jaze: I actually used a 22RE engine from a celica, the plate in the engine bay said it had a W58, but also it looked like a W57.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Thu, 13 November 2003 23:57
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In theory the W58 should be stronger dude.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Fri, 14 November 2003 00:32
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Pete: I'm assuming it's a W57 since it has an alloy sandwich plate, but I never saw the build plate on the donor car so I don't know what the code was.
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Location:
Yowie Bay, Sydney
Registered:
June 2002
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Re: W57 5-speed transmission
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Sun, 16 November 2003 04:09
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well it was i who had the gz20 soarer cut that jaze mentioned
with my g'box sitting next to 2 other w58's, there was no difference to be seen
i cant see how a w58 could be stronger, since i'f got a quote to change 5th gear ratio and make it 'exactly' the same...
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