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Re: Supercharging a 1ZZ-FE, is it worth it? (see inside for further details re. performance) Tue, 11 November 2003 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Supercharging a 1ZZ-FE, is it worth it? (see inside for further details re. performance) Tue, 11 November 2003 02:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Have you included the cost of engineering the converion? You might need to upgrade the brakes to sportivo items too.

I would also be a little concerned about boosting what I understood to be a reasonably high compression engine.
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Re: Supercharging a 1ZZ-FE, is it worth it? (see inside for further details re. performance) Mon, 17 November 2003 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so..when is this going to happen.

i'd like to see what you get. if good enough, i'll fork up the bucks too! Smiley =
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Re: Supercharging a 1ZZ-FE, is it worth it? (see inside for further details re. performance) Tue, 18 November 2003 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you will definitely need to get it engineered.
1) for increasing powr mor ethan 15%
2) you are adding an SC
3) you are altering the emmisions of a new car
4) you wanna be able to insure it?

go and talk to an engineer first, will save you a lot of headaches with an unregisterable car.

as for SC on a high comp motor, it is probably a very low boost,

10% +5% + 10% for the stickers Razz
seriously tho, they can claim those %s for certain situations, but it will not always be the case.
an NA motor will respond better to a different exhaust than an SC. same goes for air intake. btw, isn't the air already taken from a fairly cool spot?? most new cars do, btu sometimes the housing is designed for noise more than flow..


170Nm to 160Nm is a 53% increase. you'd be hard pressed to do this on less than 7 or 8psi boost, and with such a high CR to start with.... does TRD USA suggest low comp pistons? or they run with stock 10:1 CR? what RON fuel are they using (their measure is different to ours) does the ECU retard timing for boost? does it's fuel map cater for boost??
sounds like a very interesting project, and well worth doing, or at least trying!! good luck!
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Re: Supercharging a 1ZZ-FE, is it worth it? (see inside for further details re. performance) Tue, 18 November 2003 02:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Supercharging a 1ZZ-FE, is it worth it? (see inside for further details re. performance) Wed, 03 December 2003 11:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I got the 'rolla with the 1zzfe motor in anticipation of super
charging it. Now run in 10000km's and ready to install.
At the moment the main isssue is that Penrith Toyota want
$ 5,500 AUD which is heavy on the premium.

Am I correct that $ 2,600 USD get's the SC unit + ECU and xtra injector? With the full kit installed a 35% performance increase
with even spead of torque appears worth it.

Who Where & How can I import one for $ 3,500 AUD approx?

I know a Toyota mechanic who can fit it for me no prob's.

All I need to know is how can I purchase the full SC kit
at a reasonable price?



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Re: Supercharging a 1ZZ-FE, is it worth it? (see inside for further details re. performance) Wed, 03 December 2003 12:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
problem for you is that when you import car parts, they attract 15% duty and 10% GST on them, so your US$2600 attracts 26.5% = US$689 in duty and GST. you also pay 10% GST on the postage Wink

so thanks to our current federal government, you get to pay approx AUD$1000 more Very Happy (not including postage and GST on the postage)

you might be able to dodgy it in gettign some to bring it in for you, but chances are you will still pay duty, and if you don't declare could have goods confiscated Sad

i believe that from 1st jan 2005, the duty on car parts goes down to 5%, so you would save 10% Very Happy

go to www.apectariff.org

anyways, thats why things appear much more expensive here....
Cya, Stewart
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Re: Supercharging a 1ZZ-FE, is it worth it? (see inside for further details re. performance) Thu, 04 December 2003 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i dont know whether or not this was actually mentioned...

it has to be fitted by not only a toyota mechanic, but at a dealership to qualify to keep factory warranty.

that is to say -

i personally am a toyota mechanic (Peter Davey Toyota, Adelaide - free plug), but if i were to fit one of these to a current model corolla, and i did it at home, or another workshop, then the warranty would be voided.

the warranty is still retained, ONLY if it is fitted by a toyota dealership.

that said...that's only engine warranty...if your stereo trim is sagging near the vents, like most do...that would still be covered. get what i'm saying??

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not only that...but you can get a brand new Sportivo now for 30k, so why would you bother...unless you already have a lower-spec model...

not wanting to put a damper on your project, i mean, if you were over here, i'd be the first to stick my hand up...

let us know how you go...and wanna see pics too, when done!

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Re: Supercharging a 1ZZ-FE, is it worth it? (see inside for further details re. performance) Thu, 04 December 2003 09:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It will never work out cheaper than a sportivo. One of the joys of modding a car is all those hidden expenses that you never factored in at the beginning, not to mention the expense of repairing things that break, due to not being designed for the extra power. If you are going to start comparing it to the cost of a sportivo, what abut all the other different things beside the engine that the sporty has over a conquest.
For example:-
ABS
Climate control
6 stacker
leather interior
power everything
body kit
sport suspension
16 inch alloy wheels
6 speed gearbox
and its been engineeered to handle its 140kw. eg the gearbox, clutch, driveshafts etc are up to the job.
Would your conquest still be cheaper than a sporty if you add these as well? Have you thought about other lings you would probably need to upgrade as well like a heavier duty clutch, exhaust, suspension to handle the extra power? Fuel pump? Then there is the fact that with 10:1 compression and 7.5 psi it may work for a while but how long do you think the engine will last? 6 months? a year? You would need a strict diet of ron 98 and spot on tuning. I still think it would have a good chance of pinging.

You would be better off in the long run trading it for a sportivo. You would have the better performance out of the box, with no mods and is a better platform to build on later if you still have the need for more power.

Don't get me wrong, the 1zz corolla is a great little car, my wife has a conquest, but it seems pointless spending big bucks modding one when there is a higher model with 40% more power.
Its like the ricers who do up 1.5L lancers when there is a 1.8L model, crazy stuff.

Anyway, good luck with whatever you choose to do.
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