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Green_Comet
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20v Silvertop using map? Tue, 11 November 2003 12:45 Go to next message
Hi everyone,
I am just wondering if u can run a 20v silvertop afm, with the map sensor from the 20 blacktop! i have no idea if this can b done! i was just wondering, as i am going to do a 20v conversion in my sprinter soon, and would like it to use a map sensor instead of afm...
thanx Very Happy

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Re: 20v afm or map Tue, 11 November 2003 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hello green comet

im the white comet
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Re: 20v afm or map Tue, 11 November 2003 21:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
you could only run a silvertop engine on a map sensor using the blacktop ecu. not worth the stuffing around

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Re: 20v Silvertop using map? Tue, 11 November 2003 23:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So its not worth it?? I thought that the blacktop map ecu would b just a straight swap with the silvertop afm ecu...
So is there anyway to run a silvertop afm, without having to make a custom induction box, as this take up quite a bit of room and doesnt look as good..

i want the induction to look like this:
http://www.club4ag.com/images/20V%20AE86%20Process/DSC00007_small.JPG

and not like this!!
http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20tech_pages/Tech%20Photos/20V_induction.jpg

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Re: 20v Silvertop using map? Tue, 11 November 2003 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Now all we need is access to your hard drive to peep at the pictures Evil or Very Mad Otherwise, the dreaded 'aftermarket ECY' thing pops up again.
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Re: 20v Silvertop using map? Tue, 11 November 2003 23:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
should work now!! sorry Very Happy
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Re: 20v Silvertop using map? Tue, 11 November 2003 23:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it can be done but like all others have said you need the blacktop ecu.

You have to tap the sensors into the throttle body, aftermarket ecu will give you the same setup with if not same but better performance.
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Re: 20v Silvertop using map? Thu, 13 November 2003 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Just found a nice page that tells u how to get the 20v quads to run on map ecu, my next question is does any one have a ae111 black top ecu that i can buy?
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Re: 20v Silvertop using map? Thu, 13 November 2003 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
can u post the link for me!! Rolling
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Re: 20v Silvertop using map? Thu, 13 November 2003 01:53 Go to previous message
go to http://www.angelfire.com/az3/4doorae92/index.html
there is alot of info at the bottom of the page plus more links, what evil jack said is second on this page Smile

SILVERTOP MAP CONVERSION
I will explain how I got a good vacuum reading for a MAP sensor on a silvertop 4AGE, but for the rest of the conversion you're on your own. With quad throttle bodies, if you draw vacuum from a single throttle, the vacuum will pulse rapidly making it unusable for a MAP sensor and less than ideal for anything else that uses vacuum like a fuel pressure regulator. You have to draw from all four throttles to get stable vacuum. The solution is a lot simpler than what I was lead to believe. The 20V 4AGE has a "vacuum rail", basically a chamber that is already tapping off of all four throttles for you. It is on top of the throttles between the fuel injectors and connected to the PCV, often beneath part of the engine wiring housed in a plastic cover. It is being used by the AC, power steering, and there is another small line drawing from it I'm not sure for what. The problem with using this vacuum source is that it is being used by the IAC. To overcome this you basically need an air chamber that is larger than one inch inside diameter. I'm not sure how long it needs to be, but I'm assuming it should be at least one inch also. Get a carbuereted fuel filter. One of the clear ones, with fittings about the same size as the AC vacuum line,.. well, that's where I hooked it up anyway. If yours isn't free, get a t-fitting and splice it in there. Leave the element in the filter, it wont hurt anything and it will add an extra layer of protection to your MAP sensor. I got a T fitting and some reducers and connected it to my MAP sensor and fuel pressure regulator. Now the fuel pressure is a stable 37 psi at idle, and I am able to map out my fuel curve with the AEM EMS. I'm willing to bet it will work just fine with a blacktop ECU if that is your plan for the conversion.
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