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celicaboy_2000
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O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Fri, 21 November 2003 08:07

Hey Guys I will be bolting up my head tomorrow but im having a hassle keeping the wire in the oringed groove's in the block? What can I do to make sure the wire wont move when placing the head gasket on the block. Ill be torquing the ARP headstud kit up to 75lbs is that ok? Cheers. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Fri, 21 November 2003 11:59

use 'hylomar' spray (and only the spray) from acl. use it on the wire before seting them in the grooves, then do both sides of the gasket evenly (and not thick!) on both sides... [Report message to a moderator]

celicaboy_2000
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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Sat, 22 November 2003 03:42

ed, why only the spray? I brought the ACL brush on stuff already, would that be ok if I brush a lite coat on the O-rings before I put them into the block? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Sat, 22 November 2003 04:45

put it in a spray gun and use it! Brush stuff gos on shitfull and too thick Allan [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)

Sat, 22 November 2003 07:09

Allan wrote on Sat, 22 November 2003 15:45

Brush stuff gos on shitfull and too thick

what he said Laughing

but seeing as youve already got the little bottle, you could get away with brushing it on the orings...

but i would definitely only use the spray for the hg itself

cheers
ed

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celicaboy_2000
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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Sun, 23 November 2003 08:56

Thanks guys, I also brought a deep 14mm socket so I can do the nuts up but dam the head is still in the way so ill be machining the socket down a little to fit (thats my plan anyway). I might just take the brush on stuff back and buy the spray. Once again cheers. [Report message to a moderator]

bbaacchhyy
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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Sun, 23 November 2003 21:00

From the ARP stud kit I got on Friday, it quoted 80 ftlbs for when you use their special lube, or 130ftlbs when you use 30 wt motor oil. Cheers Michael B [Report message to a moderator]

Allan
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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)

Mon, 24 November 2003 03:39

bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 24 November 2003 08:00

From the ARP stud kit I got on Friday, it quoted 80 ftlbs for when you use their special lube, or 130ftlbs when you use 30 wt motor oil.

Cheers

Michael B

ed_ma61 wrote on Thu, 30 October 2003 23:33 in threed Re: ARP Headbolts/Studs - experiences/prices ?

Allan wrote on Thu, 30 October 2003 23:12

engine oil as lube so 120ft/lbs

Allan, wtf are you doing??!!??

Stenno wrote on Fri, 31 October 2003 21:08 in threed Re: ARP Headbolts/Studs - experiences/prices ?

120ft/lbs! crazy

Ahem??? do I hear a "Sorry I WAS WRONG" ???? Very Happy

[Updated on: Mon, 24 November 2003 03:40]

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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)

Mon, 24 November 2003 03:43

celicaboy_2000 wrote on Sun, 23 November 2003 19:56

Thanks guys, I also brought a deep 14mm socket so I can do the nuts up but dam the head is still in the way so ill be machining the socket down a little to fit (thats my plan anyway). I might just take the brush on stuff back and buy the spray. Once again cheers. Very Happy

get the kingchrome 3/8 drive tube socket it fits perfectly

Allan

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bbaacchhyy
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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Mon, 24 November 2003 03:45

Hey Allan, Nice feeling , eh ? When do I get my $50 for that Cheers Michael B Edited to make the message clearer [Updated on: Mon, 24 November 2003 04:45] [Report message to a moderator]

ed_ma61
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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Mon, 24 November 2003 04:10

hmmm.... [Report message to a moderator]

ed_ma61
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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Mon, 24 November 2003 04:20

reading this: http://www.arp-bolts.com/media/pdf_files/arp_cat03 .pdf id be tempted to say that 130ft/lbs with engine oil (assuming 80ft/lbs with ARP lube) is incorrect. you say its in the ARP sheet you got, but thats in conflict with the tech data on that pdf. id be suggesting if it were 80ft/lbs with ARP lube, youd be looking at a max of say 100-105ft/lbs with 30wt engine oil edit: my suggested ~20% increse over arp lube torque is in line with all other specifications ive ever read for arp products. the 60-65% increase for engine oil use (that you quote, and allan used) seems incredibly high, and inconsistent. my 2c [Updated on: Mon, 24 November 2003 04:24] [Report message to a moderator]

bbaacchhyy
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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Mon, 24 November 2003 04:47

Hi Ed, I'm just quoting the piece of paper that was included with the studs. I'll be using the lube and 80ftlbs, but I guess the other option is when you either run out or lose it ? Cheers Michael B [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)

Mon, 24 November 2003 04:55

bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 24 November 2003 15:47

I guess the other option is when you either run out or lose it ? Confused

just use any moly/graphite assembly lube Nod

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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Mon, 24 November 2003 04:57

points to bbaacchhyy argue with him he said 130ft/lbs [Report message to a moderator]

celicaboy_2000
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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Wed, 10 December 2003 10:18

I used the hylomar spray on the rings but wasn't happy with the way they sat in the block so I ended up placing 4 small spots of superglue in the groove and placing the oring ontop and holding them in till the superglued dried... Worked like a dream it was simple. I ended up torquing my studs upto 75lbs I think that'll be enough. Thanks for the help anyway guys much appreciated. [Report message to a moderator]

Allan
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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Wed, 10 December 2003 11:58

75ft/lbs hmmm dont blame the 7m-gte if the gasket dies Allan [Report message to a moderator]

celicaboy_2000
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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Thu, 11 December 2003 09:50

Allan, so you would suggest a bit tighter then 75lbs how bout 85lbs? Got the cams in but it's only a 10min job to remove and replace them. Let us know what u think. [Report message to a moderator]

Allan
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Re: O-ringed Blocked Assembly (7MGTE)	Thu, 11 December 2003 11:57

DEFINTLY the torque specifiyed by ARP [Report message to a moderator]

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