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nth ringwood, Victoria
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north brisbane
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September 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Sun, 23 November 2003 05:18
 
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hey dude...really interested!!!!but would u be able to send me a pic if u have one? would u take 150 includin posting??
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nth ringwood, Victoria
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August 2002
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Sun, 23 November 2003 10:32
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mate they will cost just for the hardfacing alone $ 340 to get done so 200 the pair is cheap and you get the cams for free
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Carlingford, Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Sun, 23 November 2003 11:25
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damn you temp me so 
yes $200 is a bargan
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north brisbane
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September 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Sun, 23 November 2003 12:13
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hey dude would u send em COD to brisbane???
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Location:
nth ringwood, Victoria
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August 2002
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Mon, 24 November 2003 06:28
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send me a posta money order for 220and will send them 2 you ,if your worried about getting ripped of ask cool 1 he can verify that i am ok glenn
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north brisbane
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September 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Mon, 24 November 2003 08:46
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dude i am trying to get the money 2gether....within a few dayz....naa i trust u man
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Tasmania
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May 2002
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Mon, 24 November 2003 10:01
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Are the cams welded then ground to maintian original base circle, or just ground with a smaller base circle?
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nth ringwood, Victoria
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August 2002
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Mon, 24 November 2003 11:17
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hard facing is welding the lobe up and regrinding back ,cam grinding only means base circle taken off
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Location:
Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Tue, 25 November 2003 02:46
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hey man, I'm from melbourne just got the 2TG (efi) installed. so I'm on the upgrade trail. Tell me why I would want to get the cams? What will they help? what will they do to the performance? let me know and I'f I'm impressed, I'll come and pick them up off you. Oh and how are they installed? can I do it myself reasonably easy? I may sound like quite an amatuer with these questions, but I'm still learning when it comes to engine internals.
Cheers for your patience. Jacob
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Tue, 25 November 2003 10:38
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| T APLUS 22 wrote on Tue, 25 November 2003 13:46 |
hey man, I'm from melbourne just got the 2TG (efi) installed. so I'm on the upgrade trail. Tell me why I would want to get the cams? What will they help? what will they do to the performance? let me know and I'f I'm impressed, I'll come and pick them up off you. Oh and how are they installed? can I do it myself reasonably easy? I may sound like quite an amatuer with these questions, but I'm still learning when it comes to engine internals.
Cheers for your patience. Jacob
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yep, i have the same questions 
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Tue, 25 November 2003 10:42
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well, lol. I call shotgun. (first in and all)
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Ballarat, Victoria
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March 2003
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Tue, 25 November 2003 15:29
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your a good mate. Yeah? heaps of mods? well, I just got it in and its much better than i anticipated. But still, always got more work to do. The exhaust will hopefully be put in b4 the weekend . how long does it usually take an exhaust shop to fit whole system? I'll get my extractors on friday (if I'm lucky) and get some quotes for the rest of the system soon after. so what else do you know of that can be done to the 2TG ?
cheers, Jacob
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melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Tue, 25 November 2003 20:52
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On my TA22 it took about an hour to get my exhaust done, but that was without headers. (2 1/4 inch system with new muffler,'hot dog' and 4 inch dump.)
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Tue, 25 November 2003 22:13
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oh yeah, cheers. So what does the term 'dump pipe' refer to exactly.
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melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Wed, 26 November 2003 01:51
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in my case the 'dump' is just the exhaust tip. i call it that because the tip is bent towards the ground intstead of straight. 
that's not a very good explaination! sorry.
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Location:
Melbourne
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August 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Wed, 26 November 2003 21:33
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Jacob, generally the term 'dump pipe' refers to the bend at the exit of a turbocharger's turbine housing, which is cast on most turbos and commonly replaced with the remainder of the exhaust when upgrading.
Some do say 'dump' to mean the little bent tip on the end of the rear muffler tho...
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Location:
Melbourne
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August 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Wed, 26 November 2003 21:48
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In answer to your Q, the function of camshafts like this is to increase the lift and duration of valve movement (intake and exhaust valves open more and stay open longer) to allow greater volumes of intake and exhaust to enter and leave the cylinders than otherwise possible.
Camshaft specifications can affect power delivery ranges and patterns.
Generally these cams would be best combined with high compression ratios and supporting intake and exhaust work to work to their best. I'd not be using them on an internally standard 2T-GEU (with compression of around 8.7:1?)... I don't think the gains would be all that significant.
If you're not happy with the performance of the 2T-GEU and want more in a naturally-aspirated application, I'd be looking first at higher compression pistons, 3T crank and then cams like these to suit.
Alternatively, your present low compression may be conducive to forced induction - perhaps a 3T-GTEU manifold and CT-20 turbocharger with a small front-mount intercooler would be effective. As a bonus, the car is already set up for fuel injection, which is a good thing for forced induction applications.
You'd need to get a computer solution sorted out though, maybe like a Microtech D4(?) or similar fuel-only computer.
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Thu, 27 November 2003 04:18
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thanks man. I was thinking quite heavitly about Supercharging it, aka tim frosts original setup on the 4SFED celica. I think I would prefer to SC it than Turbo, it just doesn't seem right to wack a turbo in the baby, she's 30yo and even though its had a major amount of rebuilding well turbos weren't big in that era so I'd rather go with the SC path.
Cheers, Jacob
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Melbourne
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August 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Thu, 27 November 2003 07:23
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Nice to have someone go before you and pioneer the project so you can just follow their lead and learn from their mistakes.
2T-GZEU has a bit of a ring to it.
Like said, your low static compression ratio would be a benefit to you as you could get away without tearing the motor down provided the motor is healthy.
By rights, I don't think SC was big in that era either - the focus seemed to be all about compression, valve lift/duration/overlap and ramp rates, carburettor selection, etc. etc.
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Melbourne
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October 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Thu, 27 November 2003 08:40
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yeah, shh  (so maybe SC wasn't big either) . I like the torque benefits of the SC. plus everyones got a Hairdryer these days. Say the words turbo and you expect ppl to just yell out 'Fully Sick Mate'.
So SC is a bit more low key, and correct me if I'm wrong but more reliable.
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Location:
Ballarat
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September 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Sun, 11 January 2004 07:47
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ive already expressed my interest in these cams in another thread, but hopefully i can get my q's answere here. SeptemberSquallIndustries (sorry dude, dont know your name) um, im making a 2t/3t hybrid and i want to change the cams. i got mild cams recommended to me, about 272 degrees. these ones are around 290, im looking for the best performance increase as possible, but i dont want to take away TOO much drivability, ie. i dont want it to stall all the time and i want it roadworthy and able to be driven around the street. could u give me some advice dude? i realise cams will make it lumpier etc, but yeah, how hard would the 290 make it for the street? thanks again
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Melbourne
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August 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair
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Sun, 11 January 2004 13:36
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I can't say what the exact results will be from these camshafts, as I've not had practical experience with various camshaft profiles in 2T-G. Drivability and engine behaviour will also depend on aspects of the camshaft profile like total lift and duration of overlap, and also your other state of engine tune.
Sorry I can't help more ~ best to consult someone with practical experience. Still got that number I sent you? Perhaps call to discuss flycutting those pistons and mention camshaft profiles in the same call. =P
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Ballarat
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September 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair (sold )
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Wed, 14 January 2004 12:09
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yep, ill ring it tomorrow brother, will he mind helping me out considering i wont be getting him to do the work 
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Melbourne
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August 2003
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Re: 2tg cams the pair (sold )
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Wed, 14 January 2004 21:44
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I'd suggest that he will *know* the grind depth and pattern required ~ I'd recommend taking the pistons to him to get done,
Otherwise you have to get this chap to try to explain to you what's required, so you can try to explain to your machinist, who can then try to do what you've said and give you back something what isn't what you need, see what I mean? I'm not encouraged by hearing your mechanic say he's 'not too sure' about how it'll all work ~ if he's not confident I really think you're taking your chances getting the work done there.
I'd recommend not wasting the time of a business person, it's kind of rude.
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