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Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Wed, 03 December 2003 05:21
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http://www.rushimports.com.au/products.php
Scroll down a bit and have a look. This is at least half the cost of getting a custom set made up. Has anyone tried these? Know how they flow or how they are constructed?
Sounds VERY tempting!
Justin
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Wollongong
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May 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Wed, 03 December 2003 05:42
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The owner of Rush Imports and some people who have his dump pipes can be found on the Soarer Forums.
http://www.alsc.aus.as
Ask around in there for opinions.
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Wollongong
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May 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Wed, 03 December 2003 05:44
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Actually... I know the guy who makes them. I have detailed photos of the dumps. I'll dig them up tonight and post them.
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Perth
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October 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Wed, 03 December 2003 06:08
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Excellent. Thanks mate!
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Wed, 03 December 2003 06:27
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$650 for a couple of bent pipes? Are you serious??
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Perth
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Wed, 03 December 2003 06:44
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Norbs,
Have a look at Martin Doonan's pipes he made up in the recent HPI 1JZ tuner's guide. Bloody work of art and I can see why it would be over the $1.5K mark. It's just that, at that price, it's just not a good value for money mod.
But if you reckon you could do better/cheaper, I'm all ears!
Justin
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August 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Wed, 03 December 2003 07:07
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step 1) take to local exhaust shop
step 2) pay less $$
step 3) drive away with dumps
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Wed, 03 December 2003 07:53
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i got quoted 1200 for full 3 inch system including custom dump pipes on a 1jz
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Wollongong
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May 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Wed, 03 December 2003 08:02
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There you go.
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October 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Wed, 03 December 2003 08:23
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Mmmmmm. Looks good to me. And at that price, it would be a reasonable power-up if I intend to stick with the factory snails. Has anyone used this brand? Shouldn't there be an extra bit of the internal wastegate to go into?
Justin
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Wed, 03 December 2003 13:46
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Looks nice, but the factory twins will overboost anyway with pipes like that... hardly good value for money when you think about it. $650 to make my car hit boost cut sooner! LOL
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Thu, 04 December 2003 00:49
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id rather buy some pvc pipe and use some duct tape than pay 650 bucks  
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Perth
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October 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Thu, 04 December 2003 02:24
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I think the idea is that reduced back pressure keeps ceramic turbines healthier at high boost longer. Just remove boost cut, and set your bleed valve to around 1 to 1.2 bar and prepare for take off!
I got some more pics from the manufacturer and it looks good. Not as good as some I've seen, but worth the money. Collects into a 3" front pipe.
I know others with custom y pipes have claimed an extra 20rwkw up top and longer lasting turbines at high boost. If I can suck up to Santa, I may give 'em a go. 
Justin
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Thu, 04 December 2003 02:24
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you would have to weigh up the relatively small costs of getting these dump pipes or going the whole hog and getting a larger single turbo. As far as i know the only bolt on upgrades are those hybrid ones and they are similar price to a large single anyway.
So, if you want 250rwkw or less, get intercooler, exhaust, dump pipes (maybe boost controller if you need it)
more than that, big turbo, exhaust manifold, inlet manifold, injectors, computer, cam gears etc.(clutch,diff. maybe upgrade for the above also)
So in effect, $650 isn't really all that much money when you look at the other possibilities and also the results that 1jz cars have had with the twin dumps.
my 2c
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Osama's hideout
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February 2003
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Thu, 04 December 2003 04:26
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i made an extra 25 rear wheel kilowatt with mine, and they didnt have seperate wastgate pipes.
$440 for the same thing, but no seperate wastegate pipes
premier exhaust, newcastle nsw 0249 603911
my 5c worth
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Sydney
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November 2003
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Thu, 04 December 2003 04:48
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those pics give me a woody... 
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Location:
Perth
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October 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Thu, 04 December 2003 04:57
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Yeah, a reliable and long-life 230ish rwkw will do me just fine  .
Neil, who makes 'em, sent me some more photos of the port work on the collectors and they do look good!
Justin
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Perth
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October 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Thu, 04 December 2003 05:40
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Or Unique Autosport sell a set of twin dumps for $395. Look closer to the stock unites without turbo's exhaust colliding into each other and without seperate wastegate pipes. Good value, I guess.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Thu, 04 December 2003 08:10
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As fancy as those pipes look, they're still just a few pieces of steel tube welded together. But I guess if they can sell 'em for $650, good on 'em!
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Perth
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October 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Thu, 04 December 2003 08:44
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I would think that, much like making a custom turbo manifold, it's the design and welding of all the mandrel bends into place to allow two turbos & wastegates to flow freely that takes the labour time and cost. It's not the two steel tubes but the flanges off the two turbos that require all the bends & curves. Really good custom 1JZ y pipes go in excess of $1,500.
Another example can be found here: http://home.kooee.com.au/celicamad/y_section_modif ication.htm
Justin
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Thu, 04 December 2003 11:54
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Dude, you should go to an exhaust shop and watch how quickly these guys can knock up something like that. And no, it's NOTHING like making a custom manifold. The design of those pipes is really quite simple.
The only reason they're selling them for $650 (or $1500 or whatever) is because people are willing to pay that much. Like I said, good on 'em.
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Brisbane
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July 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Thu, 04 December 2003 12:06
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wire mesh and duct tape.. i swear by it
i wouldnt pay any more than 400 for that
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sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Fri, 05 December 2003 04:07
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OT: I have chosen my second option and going to look at a GT30 today with an external wastegate!!!!
I'm Excited
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Perth
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October 2003
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Fri, 05 December 2003 04:50
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I got quoted $500 for the pair from a zorst shop out of mild steel. I ended up making my own out of stainless, im not an experienced fabricator but they took me a shitload of time to make. If anyone is interested in having a look at my set ill email the pics, or if anyone wants to host them i can put them up here.
I dont know what i would have got exactly for the $500, but $650 doesnt seem overly expensive. Will most exhaust shops include in the price taking all that crap off to get in there?
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October 2003
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Fri, 05 December 2003 04:53
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BTW what is the big vaccum diaphram on the rear turbo intake pipe in those pics? My 1JZ has a plate blocking off there.
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Fri, 05 December 2003 05:26
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That's the stock BOV.
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Fri, 05 December 2003 07:50
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Norbie: Since when have they put blow off valves on the inlet side? 
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Fri, 05 December 2003 11:03
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Since that's where the bov vents too, from the turbo outlet.
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Fri, 05 December 2003 14:16
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Can someone please post a pic of the standard blow off system? As i mentioned my engine came with a plate blocking that diaphram off, and no BOV. I had to weld a plate over the stork and hole where the original sat. Looks like my import engine may have had an aftermarket BOV on, that was removed?
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Sat, 06 December 2003 16:30
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The pics at the top of this very thread clearly depict a 1JZ with a stock BOV attached (ie the big diaphragm thing you pointed out). If yours has been removed and blanked off then yes, your engine probably had an aftermarket BOV fitted at some point. You'd be wise to source some sort of BOV, either a stock one or aftermarket, if you're concerned about the longevity of your turbos.
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Osama's hideout
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February 2003
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Re: Rush $650 1JZ dump pipes - anyone tried?
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Mon, 08 December 2003 02:38
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$1500 for a set of dump pipes,
"tell him his dreammin"
my complete custom exhaust manifold which takes 40 hours and has ten times the amount of bends in it cost less than that,
the complete system when i had the standard twins cost less than that,
i made 210 rear wheel kilowatt with a standard auto box, standard injectors, standard computer,15psi boost with a 3:9 diff with 18inch rims
i would like to see how many poofteinths of a kilowatt these $1500 items get you. i bet there nice and shiny
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