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Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Sun, 07 December 2003 07:33
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Does anyone know what is involved in swapping the diff from an GLX to a Grande LSD, ie does the LSD use different driveshafts, and is the cradle that the whole thing sits in any different between these two models? Are the diff housings any different in size?
Cheers
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Sun, 07 December 2003 07:55
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Housings are the same, so they're a direct swap.
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Sun, 07 December 2003 07:59
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Thanks Norbie. So even the drive shafts are the same diameter?
Man I just lugged the whole cradle, rear discs and rear struts and drive shafts down from Sydney!! The guy selling just dropped the whole rear end out of the car and left it complete.
Is there anyway you can check if it really is LSD like a marking or something on the housing?
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Sun, 07 December 2003 10:08
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grab one drive shaft and turn it, and the other should turn in the same direction. the part number is probably different also but i wouldnt know what its supposed to be.
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Sun, 07 December 2003 10:23
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I'd be very surprised if the driveshafts were any different. I know they're the same in Supras whether LSD or not.
The only sure-fire way to determine whether or not it has an LSD centre is to remove the rear cover from the housing and eyeball it. If you can see spider gears it's a single-spinner; if not, it's an LSD.
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February 2003
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Mon, 08 December 2003 02:21
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it will have a sticker on the back next to the filler plug saying in red and white, LSD OIL ONLY.
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Mon, 08 December 2003 03:13
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A bit OT (apologies).
Shane, did you get my PM?
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Mon, 08 December 2003 06:11
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I posted this LSD question a while back and nobody answered. 
What's a Grande LSD worth these days? I wouldn't mind the swap if it was around the $400 - $500 mark. 
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Mon, 08 December 2003 22:50
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| SIMDOG wrote on Mon, 08 December 2003 17:11 |
I posted this LSD question a while back and nobody answered.
What's a Grande LSD worth these days? I wouldn't mind the swap if it was around the $400 - $500 mark.
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Grande LSDs are a bit "thin on the ground" (Voice of experience here). My suggestion is that you find an MA70 LSD unit in good/reconditioned nick and swap the hemisphere from that into you existing diff (assuming the existing diff's in reasonable nick).
That's what I did; well worth the effort, and a lot less hassle than chasing around for Grande stuff...
Note that I took the 2 diffs to a diff place and had them swap the hemispheres ($150 IIRC), and I then re-installed the diff into the car.
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Tue, 09 December 2003 02:07
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That sounds more difficult than just getting a Grande diff and throwing it on my car. I'll give you $200 if you can whack one on my car for me. I'll even give you the old one for free. 
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Tue, 09 December 2003 03:39
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| SIMDOG wrote on Tue, 09 December 2003 13:07 |
That sounds more difficult than just getting a Grande diff and throwing it on my car. I'll give you $200 if you can whack one on my car for me. I'll even give you the old one for free.
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Perhaps you might start with actually finding an MX83 LSD... (Which was, after all, my point, and the reason I went the way I did.
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Tue, 09 December 2003 04:48
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I was meaning $200 bucks to find one and put it in. Hence the copius ( ) smilies.
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Tue, 09 December 2003 08:20
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this is fun
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February 2003
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Tue, 09 December 2003 11:41
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Well I found mine in the Trader for $250!! I knew it was a score so snapped it up quick as!
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Tue, 09 December 2003 22:32
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| Milhouse wrote on Tue, 09 December 2003 22:41 |
Well I found mine in the Trader for $250!! I knew it was a score so snapped it up quick as!
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Good one! What kind of nick is it in?
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February 2003
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Wed, 10 December 2003 10:38
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Well have'nt put it in yet but it has not leaks and looks clean and un-abused from the outside! 
Checked for the red and white sticker saying LSD oil only on it and it does have one.
I guess the only real test will be to install it and see how it behaves!
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Wed, 10 December 2003 12:55
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A worn-out LSD will behave exactly like an open diff, so that's not a reliable test at all! As I said earlier, the only way to be sure is to remove the rear cover and have a look. It will be quite obvious if you have an LSD centre in there.
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Thu, 11 December 2003 12:07
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Ok good point. 
If you take the back plate off is there any way of judging the condition of the clutches? (Obviously without taking the whole thing to peices).
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Thu, 11 December 2003 12:37
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No, you have to pull the centre out and then disassemble it before you can inspect the clutches.
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Mon, 15 December 2003 05:30
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I have found an LSD from a Grande for $400 from Just Toyota Wreckers... They offer a 3 month warranty on it... Should I keep looking or snap it up? 
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Mon, 15 December 2003 05:58
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Snap it up, that's a good price for a G series LSD.
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Re: Cressida MX83 open diff to LSD swap
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Mon, 15 December 2003 06:34
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Yeah? What would they normally sell for? I mean, if I buy it and then don't fit it, could I sell it on without a loss?
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