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I supported Toymods
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sat, 13 December 2003 01:32
 
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Pretty average price. Yes you can and should do it yourself. A press makes things easier but it's not required; the bearing races can be hammered out with a bit of care. Consult your workshop manual for details.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, Western Australia
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sat, 13 December 2003 01:35
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If you're going to do one side, you should also do the other, and it can be done without a press.
Remove the hub from the wheel and take the bearings out. Remove the bearing cups (the machined steel section the bearing runs on), by using a drift - there are two recessed sections in the hub to get a good "purchase" on the cups. Clean all the old grease out, then install the new cups that will come with the bearing kit. This is done by utilising a socket the same diameter as the cup. Place the socket over the cup and tap it in back to the original cup position. Repack the bearing, install and replace the hub, making sure not to apply too much force to the bearings, or you'll be doing it again alot sooner!
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sat, 13 December 2003 03:27
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or even easier, buy the bearings from a bearing shop (for both sides)
then take hubs, bearings and a 6-pack to your local friendly mechanic ;D
prefereably with the beer cold, and it being late in the day......
i wouldn't pay more than $10 to have bearings pressed out and back in again....
Cya, Stewart
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I supported Toymods
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I supported Toymods
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Ademelaide, SA
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July 2003
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sat, 13 December 2003 08:09
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a drift in this context...(ie-not sideways  ) is something like a pin-punch.
basically a metal rod, that you put one end on the thing you want to move, and hit the other end with a hammer.
ppl keep saying "press them on".... YOU DONT NEED A PRESS AT ALL!!
in fact, the job would be harder to do with a press...
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I supported Toymods
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I supported Toymods
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sat, 13 December 2003 08:28
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a good rule of thumb when doing up wheel bearings, is..
on new bearings, tighten, just up to when it grabs. then go 1/16 of a turn further.
on old bearings, tighten just up to when it grabs.
an easy way for "when it grabs" is to put a shifter on the nut, pointing up...then tap it so it falls clockwise. where it stops...that's "when it grabs"
piece of piss... 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sat, 13 December 2003 08:35
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cheers, that is a big help!
just looked at the manual, it says all these things about using SSTs
these ARE just for pussies right? 
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sat, 13 December 2003 09:15
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i believe a drift is a piece of material that is softer than the object you are 'drifting', the idea being to not damage the part.
drifts are often wood, copper/brass, whatever is softer than what is being drifted..
the advantage of pressing bearings on is that if the press is nicely aligned then so will the bearing race.
if you drift it in, it is possible to end up with the bearing race being slightly misaligned.. which will fuck everything very quickly....
SST's are tools designed perfectly for the job... they do make life easier... but they can always be approximated with an angle grinder and a welder 
Cya, Stewart
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sat, 13 December 2003 12:17
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I am under the impression that wheel bearings need to be done up as tight as humanly possible, much like lug nuts on wheels.
Someone please correwct me if im wrong this is just what ive heard.
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sat, 13 December 2003 12:18
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I am under the impression that wheel bearings need to be done up as tight as humanly possible, much like lug nuts on wheels.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong this is just what ive heard.
Perhaps the same as bicycle wheels and the bearings on those.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sat, 13 December 2003 13:55
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You are quite wrong. If you do up the bearings as tight as humanly possible, the wheels won't turn at all... and if they did the bearings would last all of 30 seconds before they seized!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sat, 13 December 2003 21:25
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yeah, dont od them up tight, this happened to a friend of mine, he had his wheel bearings replaced at a questionable place (he had a coupon for it, but i wont go into that) and one of his wheel bearings locked up at 100km/h, causing him to do a half handbrake turn, apparently it was a bit scary.
thanks everyone for the help, id take pics of me changing them, but it owuldnt be very exiting.
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NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sun, 14 December 2003 00:52
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Isnt there a chance the hub will come loose or is there some sort of locking nut?
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sun, 14 December 2003 02:12
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There's a split pin to prevent the nut from coming loose.
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sun, 14 December 2003 02:12
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they have a split in to stop the nut from coming off.
Another thing to check with new wheel bearings is once you have installed them and driven around, jack the car back up and check for play.. sometimes the bearings are not fully set and driving them will cause the bearings to seat properly..
So you may need to re do up the nut.
USE LOTS OF GREASE and keep it clean fer christ sake
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sun, 14 December 2003 02:21
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Also remember to pack the bearing properly, don't just smear grease on the outside!
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I supported Toymods
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sun, 14 December 2003 14:34
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the bearing kit for my front was $20 from a bearing shop! then had to get bearing grease as well.
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sun, 14 December 2003 14:37
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Yes, packing the bearing means getting grease all through it, right into the rollers. There's a bit of a technique to doing it right but it's hard to explain without showing it to you! Just make you sure jam as much grease in there as possible and you should be right. 
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I supported Toymods
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Sun, 14 December 2003 22:06
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i think i have seen it done, it involved sticking a big ball of grease on your hand, then rotating the bearing sowly while shoving the ball of grease against the inside of the bearing "ring", i think it should be no problem.
LIL_MIC, thanks for the price, good to know that it is actually quite cheap.
i have a tub of grease from when i replaced my clutch, ill check and see if it is axle grease. yep it is, "high temperature grease suitable for wheel bearings" and its blue for rice factor.
im never going back to that mechanic again. i understand that you wont get something done for the cost of parts, but their mark up was ridiculous.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86
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Tue, 16 December 2003 00:21
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ok, i have rang around a little bit, can anyone give me either a part number for the wheel bearing kit,
failing that can anyone tell me another less "exotic" car than the AE86 that uses the same wheel bearings?
do i want grease seals? im thinking yes i do.
whats the way to get the hub nut caps off too, i was thinking tapping with a hammer etc.
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86 - thanks for the help so far but need more
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Tue, 16 December 2003 01:14
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call CBC bearings
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86 - thanks for the help so far but need more
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Tue, 16 December 2003 01:21
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Hub cap sometimes you can gently tap a flat blade screw driver between it and the hub and then work around it levering it out.
Otherwise i've seen someone basically put a dint in it with a hammer/screwdriver and this gives you like a ledge to use to tap it off with.
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86 - thanks for the help so far but need more
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Tue, 16 December 2003 01:28
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I use a flat blade screwdriver and a hammer. Start small and work big and just lever it out.
Yes you will want grease seals - being your first time you undoubtedly will fark them getting them out.
Just go to any parts store (Repco, Bursons, local auto shop) and be armed with AE86 and the month and year of manufacture. They will provide you with the correct parts. Generally, they won't quote you a part number over the phone, but they will give you a price.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86 - thanks for the help so far but need more
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Tue, 16 December 2003 23:00
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thanks again, i didnt want to call rip every poor cnut off, for obvious reasons, but ill call them today and get a "cheaper" price out of them.
failing that i can take the bearings out of the hub and have the guys at my local (quite close actually) bearing shop match them up for me.
if i fark the grease seals getting them out, will this matter?
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86 - thanks for the help so far but need more
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Tue, 16 December 2003 23:11
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your local BEARING shop, if it is worth the air they breathe, will have listings for cars and will be able to give you the bearing you need. failing that, call a good bearing shop adn get the part numbers. get NEW seals at the same time.
they will probably have a listing for the whole kit.
if they don't, they don't deserve your money.
start calling shops
Cya, Stewart
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I supported Toymods
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86 - thanks for the help so far but need more
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Thu, 18 December 2003 00:27
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bought the bearings today, had to use some shifty methods,
yesterday i called repco, and asked the guy for a price, he said 35 bucks a side, then i said "i'll probably have to pick them up tomorrow, just out of interest, what is the part number?" he told me, and i then called up my local bearing shop, who said they had them in, so i picked the bearings, cones, seals etc today for 22 bucks a side, who says repco isn't useful??
there was a "hot chick" there too, i wonder how the mechanic i went to could justivy a 4X price hike, maybeye he thought i wanted gold plated bearings.
the bearing shop dude also said not to use too much grease, to pack the bearings, then fill the hub cavity about 30 percent full,
thanks for all your help, no doubt ill be back here when i have fuxored it all up, but hopefully not.
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I supported Toymods
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Re: front wheel bearing on AE86 - thanks for the help so far but need more
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Wed, 24 December 2003 15:30
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thanks for the help everyone, replaceD the bearings, pretty easy job, the hardest bit was waiting for the rain to finish so i could resume working on it!
saved me 350 bucks too, im going to go buy tools with the money i didnt throw away on paying for some other loser (besides me) to do it.
thanks everyone for your help, i might maybeyeen able to do it without you, but it would have been heaps harder and not half as fun!
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