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Goodridge (from USA) Steel Braided Brake Lines
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Tue, 16 December 2003 11:12
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Are they street legal in Australia? Thanks!
Leon
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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Re: Goodridge (from USA) Steel Braided Brake Lines
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Tue, 16 December 2003 11:32
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afaik they are not legal in NSW. mostly because brake lines are specifically covered by ADR's, and also becuase with steel braided brake lines, you can't see if the rubber underneath is damaged.
just having steel braid on the outside is of little use except stopping damage from occasional contact. properly made ones can help, but the difference is sfa on a road car...
check with an engineer as to whether they contravene either ADR's or your states rego laws.
Cya, Stewart
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Goodridge (from USA) Steel Braided Brake Lines
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Tue, 16 December 2003 23:09
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ADR approved braided brake lines have a rubber "bit" cast around where the brake line enters the banjo bolt or whatever, to pass the test they must be able to be "cracked like a whip" without the fitting at the end coming off, apparently. im sure they would have a more sophisticated test for this too.
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Re: Goodridge (from USA) Steel Braided Brake Lines
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Tue, 16 December 2003 23:37
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| hiaaa wrote on Tue, 16 December 2003 22:12 |
Are they street legal in Australia? Thanks!
Leon
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you need to have a look at a copy of ADR 7, possibly ADR 31
see if they apply to your vehicle (some are retrospective for mods), and then if the brake lines pass.
Cya, Stewart.
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ADR 7 - Hydraulic Brake Hoses
The function of this Australian Design Rule is to specify the performance requirements of hydraulic brake hoses in vehicles so that the risk of failure in service will be minimised.
ADR 31 - Hydraulic Brake Systems for Passenger cars
The function of this national standard is to ensure safe braking under normal and emergency conditions for vehicles equipped with hydraulic service brakes.
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Re: Goodridge (from USA) Steel Braided Brake Lines
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Wed, 17 December 2003 10:34
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Thanks guy, I may just get some rubber one then.
Leon
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Albany WA
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October 2003
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Re: Goodridge (from USA) Steel Braided Brake Lines
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Fri, 19 December 2003 01:02
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High Performance Imports magazine, issue 31. Martin Donnan's Soarer was fitted with braided brake lines made by Steve Malkins. These have been ADR approved & come with paperwork to prove it. (Maltech: 0418 378 937). Braided lines are used instead of rubber because they don't expand under pressure, giving you more "feel" from the pedal and probably superior braking. I have no idea as to the factuallity of this article, but it makes sense to me.
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Turramurra, Sydney.
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Re: Goodridge (from USA) Steel Braided Brake Lines
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Fri, 19 December 2003 02:22
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One of our forum sponsors, Pittwater Clutch & Brake, manufacture ADR compliant braided brake lines. They even supply you with a certificate to prove there compliance.
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Albany WA
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October 2003
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Re: Goodridge (from USA) Steel Braided Brake Lines
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Fri, 19 December 2003 02:26
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So there you have it. No more problems with those nasty people down at the RTA.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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Re: Goodridge (from USA) Steel Braided Brake Lines
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Fri, 19 December 2003 08:59
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coool, good to hear!!!!
it's funny that with aircraft, it is the other way round.. you have to use braided (at least thats what my Qantas friend tells me..)
must be a bit of an issue if they provide certification for them tho...
heh heh, you get pulled over and haul out your 50 page modifications 'manual' LOL 
hmm, i wonder how much more feel you get.. i wouldn't expect normal brake lines to expand that much, or that there is enogh pre-stress in the braided ones to allow them to prevent them from expanding..
anyone got first hand experience?
Cya, Stewart
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Re: Goodridge (from USA) Steel Braided Brake Lines
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Fri, 19 December 2003 13:57
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Even the braided hose they use at Qantas is no good for brake lines.
I'm pretty sure the main difference is that normal braided hose for use in aircraft or whatever, is only subjected to occasional & very minimal flex, whereas flexible brake lines are subject to constant flexing. I've heard stories about guys at work (Qantas) having braided brake lines made up & they've completely shagged out in around 3 months. The most experienced hose & tube guy at Qantas refuses to make them, but will usually make up anything else people might need. 
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