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MaNGeW
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icon5.gif  Best intercooler for Front mount gze? Wed, 31 July 2002 08:37 Go to next message
Which intercooler is the better / best flow rate for front mount 4AGZE.
1. MA70 Supra (?7mgte) (?Mk4) Intercooler
2. ST185 Celica 3SGTE Air to Air Intercooler
3. Series 4 or 5 RX7 (?FC) Intercooler
4. Mitsubishi Galant VR4 Intercooler.

Other factors to consider:
Arrow Seeing that bigger doesn't necessarily mean better.
Arrow Also seeing its supercharged and not turbocharged
Arrow ? dead air space
Arrow Tubular fins?
Arrow Best value (what kinda prices?)

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Re: Which intercooler is best for front mount gze? Wed, 31 July 2002 13:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mk4 ma70? hmmmm... an ma70 (or jza71) core might be quite alright for the job though, as would a galant VR4 - I would imagine a 7mgte one might have the outlet pipes in about the best position for what you want. I use a jza71 core on my ae86, and at 140+rwkw its starting to become a bit of a flow restriction, therefore I intend on replacing it soon, however for a 4agze with the usual stuff like a bigger exhaust it should be a good thing, provided it fits the space nicely.
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Re: Which intercooler is best for front mount gze? Wed, 31 July 2002 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
my pick of the bunch would be the VR4 cooler, but remember, the jap ones are bigger/better than the aussie delivered ones.
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icon5.gif  Re: Which intercooler is best for front mount gze? Thu, 01 August 2002 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeh also another thing i forgot to mention is the positioning of the end tank outlet/inlet. So have to take this into account.
suppose something like 2" inlet and outlet is suitable.
Is there any other intercooler which is good for my application?
I've always wondered if other i/c's such as:
Arrow Nissan Silvia/180sx/200sx s13/14 i/c
Arrow Nissan GTR/GTS R32/33 i/c
.....be suitable at all ?
Without goin to too much expense redesigning the end tanks.

Any url on the toyota supra i/c specs , would be much appreciated. Nod
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Re: Which intercooler is best for front mount gze? Thu, 01 August 2002 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Keep in mind it has to fit behind the front grille of an AE82.
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Re: Which intercooler is best for front mount gze? Thu, 01 August 2002 07:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pretty much rule out the whole of that last list unless its the GTR..they are all supposed to be fairly small and dodgy.
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Re: Which intercooler is best for front mount gze? Thu, 01 August 2002 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The GTS and silvia ones, well, suck! GTR one would be great, although probably a tad pricey and would have to be stuck out like a bloody great mattress, annoucing itself to the world. Or maybe this is what you want? you decide...
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Re: Which intercooler is best for front mount gze? Fri, 02 August 2002 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Im getting real close at a decision of what i want to get. Thanks people. I'll let you know what i do get. Nod
Yeh the GTR one would be too much for purposes.
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icon12.gif  Getting real close to a decision Fri, 02 August 2002 06:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks people for all your help.
Im real close at a decision now.
Comes down to.....

1. Series 4 RX7 intercooler
2. 3SGTE GT4 intercooler (any differences b/w ST185
and ST205 ones??)
3. Galant VR4 intercooler.


I have tossed out the idea of the supra intercooler after reading the autospeed article.
http://www.autospeed.com/A_0901/page1.html

BTW im getting confused over the Supra models still.
They refer to the intercoolers as being from 1GGTE air to air. what chassis is this?
Is the 7MGTE ones the same intercooler???

I would love a series 6 RX7 i/c but somehow looks too bulky to mount up front. Dunno.

Any more opinions????

Also got any pics and specs/dimensions on the VR4 i/c??


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Re: Getting real close to a decision Fri, 02 August 2002 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i would go the vr4 it flows better than the toyotas and is 600mm x 200mm i think the toyotas are very restrictive (all 3sgte's) rx7 ones are good as well i have seen 400hp through these with out a problem
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Re: Best intercooler for Front mount gze? Sat, 03 August 2002 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
1GGTE one is from a GA70 Supra...a Mk3. I think from memory they aren't quite as good as the 7MGTE version. Can anyone back me up on this?
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Re: Best intercooler for Front mount gze? Sat, 03 August 2002 03:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
This site shows the results: http://home.earthlink.net/~turbogus2/intercoolers. html
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Re: Best intercooler for Front mount gze? Sat, 03 August 2002 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The 7M-GTE 'cooler, if it's the same as a JZA70s 'cooler (which I'm told is) is much bigger than the 1G-GTE's one. The 1G is really the same as 2 4A-GZE coolers in parallel, where as the 7M is about twice as thick again.
This is what I plan to use when I turbo my 4A-GE.
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icon1.gif  Re: Best intercooler for Front mount gze? Sun, 04 August 2002 23:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks for all your opinions.
My above choices still remain.
But, i am now considering a Water-to-Air configuration.
Just need to find some info on them.

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Re: Best intercooler for Front mount gze? Tue, 06 August 2002 08:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well get the angel grinder out cut that wussy front bar off and sit in the biggest I/C we can fit hehehe Habib has a few of his cousins WRX that he wrote of racing Ahmeds gemini. look full sik on the corolla bro!
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Re: Best intercooler for Front mount gze? Wed, 07 August 2002 00:49 Go to previous message
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